jaybird18c 24 #1 September 27, 2011 "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in with what is happening in the US with regard to abortion. I watched it last night. I thought it was very effective. It did have a flaw, however. It was done from the perspective of the public and not the Physician. It does not take into account the limited scenarios where a procedure might be necessary and unavoidable to save the life of the mother. Other than that, I think he got his point across. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #2 September 27, 2011 Quote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #3 September 27, 2011 Quote Quote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. You do know that you're talking to a protestant...right?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #4 September 27, 2011 QuoteQuote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. The Roman Catholic Church has been and is wrong on many counts. The Pope and the Papacy But that's got nothing really to do with the right or wrong with regard to abortion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #5 September 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. You do know that you're talking to a protestant...right? Are you saying that Catholics aren't Christians?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #6 September 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. The Roman Catholic Church has been and is wrong on many counts. Fixed it for you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #7 September 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. You do know that you're talking to a protestant...right? Are you saying that Catholics aren't Christians? Depends on if you're talking about the individual or the organized religion. Anyone who has placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation and isn't relying on their own works, Catholic or not, is saved. If you're referring to them, I say yes. If you're referring, however, to strict followers of the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, which is very much faith + works based (e.g. the doctrine of the Pope), then I would say no. They aren't Christian...they're Catholic....and they'll tell you that if you ask them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #8 September 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. You do know that you're talking to a protestant...right? Are you saying that Catholics aren't Christians? Depends on if you're talking about the individual or the organized religion. Anyone who has placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation and isn't relying on their own works, Catholic or not, is saved. If you're referring to them, I say yes. If you're referring, however, to strict followers of the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, which is very much faith + works based (e.g. the doctrine of the Pope), then I would say no. They aren't Christian...they're Catholic....and they'll tell you that if you ask them. Birds of a feather...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #9 September 27, 2011 QuoteBirds of a feather... A very ignorant response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #10 September 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote "180" This is a documentary put together by Ray Comfort and his ministry Way of the Master. It describes in graphic detail the atrocities of the WWII Holocaust and ties that in blah blah blah. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church assisted many of the Nazi war criminals involved in the Holocaust to escape (mostly to South America) after WWII, and that the Pope (Puis XII) was almst certainly aware of it. Nice Christians. You do know that you're talking to a protestant...right? Are you saying that Catholics aren't Christians? Are you saying that Catholics are Nazis?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #11 September 27, 2011 >Are you saying that Catholics are Nazis? There ya go. (Although I have to say you have a ways to go to beat any sort of a Godwin record - 10 posts to Nazis isn't even close to a record.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #12 September 27, 2011 Quote>Are you saying that Catholics are Nazis? There ya go. (Although I have to say you have a ways to go to beat any sort of a Godwin record - 10 posts to Nazis isn't even close to a record.) Well, technically, Godwin was invoked on the very first post.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 September 27, 2011 Quote>Are you saying that Catholics are Nazis? There ya go. (Although I have to say you have a ways to go to beat any sort of a Godwin record - 10 posts to Nazis isn't even close to a record.) but this thread did it in 2 posts - is that a record? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #14 September 27, 2011 >Well, technically, Godwin was invoked on the very first post. True, although in classic form it would have included a direct reference to either Hitler or Nazis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #15 September 27, 2011 QuoteQuote>Are you saying that Catholics are Nazis? There ya go. (Although I have to say you have a ways to go to beat any sort of a Godwin record - 10 posts to Nazis isn't even close to a record.) but this thread did it in 2 posts - is that a record? I think we need a Godwin clarification. Does referring to the WWII Holocaust not invoke the Nazis? We need a ref call on this.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #16 September 27, 2011 >We need a ref call on this. I nominate Shah to make the call. His reply will be far more entertaining than any of us greenies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #17 September 27, 2011 "It's okay to kill a baby in the womb when ________?" (Excluding the preservation of the life of the mother scenarios mentioned before.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #18 September 27, 2011 Quote "It's okay to kill a baby in the womb when ________?" My favorite answer was: "um...when you're really messed up and you're about to beat that kid or something." ...But here is my favorite part at 3:09- Neo Nazi: Christianity is a Jewish trick, but it hasn't tricked me because I'm greek and I'm smarter than that. Ray Comfort: How do you spell "shop?" Neo Nazi: shop? S-H-O-P Ray Comfort: What do you do when you come to a green light? Neo Nazi: stop. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #19 September 27, 2011 Quote"It's okay to kill a baby in the womb when ________?" (Excluding the preservation of the life of the mother scenarios mentioned before.) Ill framed question. Babies have been delivered by the woman to the world. I expect you've heard of "delivery room" and "mother to be". Before delivery what happens in her uterus is her business and hers only. Most certainly not your or the government's business. Otherwise the thing in the uterus should be eligible for a SSN and a tax deduction.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #20 September 27, 2011 That was a huge waste of 33 minutes. Manipulative, deceptive, disjointed - absolutely worthless. I give it a B+ for potential to rile people up (which I'm guessing is the producers intent); but an F overall. I wonder how selective he had to be to get so many clueless responses, or how many 1000's of people he had to ask to get enough of the kind of answer he wanted." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #21 September 27, 2011 >"It's okay to kill a baby in the womb when ________?" When it's Hitler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #22 September 27, 2011 QuoteIll framed question. Babies have been delivered by the woman to the world. I expect you've heard of "delivery room" and "mother to be". Before delivery what happens in her uterus is her business and hers only. Most certainly not your or the government's business. Otherwise the thing in the uterus should be eligible for a SSN and a tax deduction. So, it's not a baby until when? Until it's born and is issued a SSN? Really? Seriously Kallend, it's not a baby? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #23 September 27, 2011 Quote>"It's okay to kill a baby in the womb when ________?" When it's Hitler. He did that. Along with their parents. My Granddad fought to liberate some of those camps. So you're a supporter of Hitler when he killed Jewish babies? How about their parents? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #24 September 27, 2011 QuoteBefore delivery what happens in her uterus is her business and hers only. So, you would support an abortion up to the point the baby pops out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #25 September 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteBefore delivery what happens in her uterus is her business and hers only. So, you would support an abortion up to the point the baby pops out? No...I think Kallend says until it has a social security number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
