rhaig 0 #1 September 26, 2011 For all the folks who insist that the US side of the Mexican border is perfectly safe: http://www.kvue.com/news/Report-focuses-on-border-security-130573338.html So did they lie, or might Occam's razor actually apply here?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #2 September 26, 2011 Who said the US side of the border is perfectly safe? Heck, Wisconsin isn't perfectly safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #3 September 26, 2011 QuoteWho said the US side of the border is perfectly safe? Heck, Wisconsin isn't perfectly safe. Obtuse doesn't suit you. Sarcasm does...-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 September 26, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/25/mexico-woman-decapitated-social-network Close to the border, definitely not safe on the southern side.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #5 September 26, 2011 >Obtuse doesn't suit you. If you claim "they said it's perfectly safe and they're lying" you'll have to do better than veiled insults. I don't know of anyone who claimed the border is even relatively safe. Napolitano said "it's as safe as it's ever been" (which isn't saying much) and that it needs work. So what are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 September 26, 2011 They either don't live along the border or they have their heads in the sand. There are warnings all along the border to not cross it. Land owners and communities along the river know better. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #7 September 26, 2011 >There are warnings all along the border to not cross it. Yep, crossing the border (on either side) isn't very healthy nowadays. Hundreds of illegal immigrants die trying every year, and I can think of at least one boater who was killed by pirates when they crossed the border into Mexico. On the other hand, I worked 1/3 of a mile from the border for five years, and jumped at a DZ that's about four miles from the border for the past eight. The local kids have been a far bigger danger than any risk from across the border. Heck, the few times we landed in Mexico the people over there helped us get back over. (The Federales weren't so keen on that though.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #8 September 27, 2011 O.K., you set me up... I gotta ask... Who spotted that load? I don't believe, I'd care to chance it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #9 September 27, 2011 >Who spotted that load? Well, let's see - Rob A was one of the spotters, Buzz was one, I think Dave N was one. In their defense, at least one was due to a problem a jumper had (a stuck brake line.) When you're 1/3 of a mile from the border it doesn't take much to put you in Mexico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #10 September 27, 2011 Quote >Who spotted that load? Well, let's see - Rob A was one of the spotters, Buzz was one, I think Dave N was one. In their defense, at least one was due to a problem a jumper had (a stuck brake line.) When you're 1/3 of a mile from the border it doesn't take much to put you in Mexico. I've heard that question a lot in the past when 'off DZ' landings happened. I can see where accuracy would be a big priority! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #11 September 27, 2011 I jumped a DZ that had a private gun range on one end and a police range on the other. Yes, people landed in them. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #12 September 27, 2011 Did you ever get just a little nervous? Talk about trusting your fellow man! Dayum! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 September 27, 2011 Only about landing in the state prison that was right behind the cops range. Oh. I want to put in a good word for Abilene. Abilene is in the middle of the Texas bible belt. The women there are starved for affection. It's the only city I've been in that the women actually had a big, about 9 women, cat fight free-for-all at the bar over who was going to dance with, and go home with, me and my brother. Heck. They didn't have to fight. We'd have taken them ALL on but they were the selfish type. It was embarrassing having to write out an appointment schedule on napkins for each of the nights we were in town. I hated leaving Abilene. True story. "Abilene Abilene prettiest town I've ever seen Women there don't treat you mean in Abilene my Abilene" recorded by Buck Owens written by Lester Brown, John D. Loudermilk, Bob Gibson My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 September 27, 2011 Talk about determination to do something! I just don't know about you guys. Abilene holds some good-good memories for me, too. At the time, I was living in Odessa, Texas. I worked a deal with a Senior Rigger to get my Senior ticket... he lived in Abilene. It was several week-end trips but we got it done. As a side note... his packing table was in his back yard and it was in the summer. p.s. I slept on the floor of his sewing room!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #15 September 27, 2011 Yep, crossing the border outside an approved location: bad. Signs saying so: good. Signs miles away from the border telling folks to stay away from that particular American soil due to danger of illegal activity: VERY BAD.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #16 September 27, 2011 OK...how about this: Since the goobermint insists on keeping U.S. soldiers in the great desert countries, how about building them a decent training ground....the entire length of the border in the southwest. It would be a live-fire training ground where they could get real-world experience in hunting down bad guys. Two birds, one stoneMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #17 September 27, 2011 Sounds great except for the whole human rights & women and children thing. Maybe we should just put landmines everywhere. Works really well in ex war zones. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites