Tink1717 2 #26 September 23, 2011 So why is this in SC?Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #27 September 23, 2011 Quote Remember how hard it was to make the trains run on time in Italy. Why does anyone trust them to get neutrinos to arrive on time? LOL awesome. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #28 September 23, 2011 QuoteSo why is this in SC? Here, let me make it official, if you believe in the speed of light, the Doppler effect and sub-atomic particles, then you also probably have to believe the book of Genesis is nothing more than mythology. If you believe the book of Genesis is mythology, then why on Earth would you believe anything else in the Bible is the literal truth? Happy?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #29 September 24, 2011 QuoteHere, let me make it official, if you believe in the speed of light, the Doppler effect and sub-atomic particles, then you also probably have to believe the book of Genesis is nothing more than mythology. If you believe the book of Genesis is mythology, then why on Earth would you believe anything else in the Bible is the literal truth? Happy? No, That wasn't the question. The original post had no religious overtones to it and had no obvious reason to be in SC. I mean it's more than obvious the all religions are mere mythology, but I didn't get that from the vibe of the initial thread post.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #30 September 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo why is this in SC? Here, let me make it official, if you believe in the speed of light, the Doppler effect and sub-atomic particles, then you also probably have to believe the book of Genesis is nothing more than mythology. If you believe the book of Genesis is mythology, then why on Earth would you believe anything else in the Bible is the literal truth? -------------------------------------------------------- Way to go and completly ruin a benign debate about a scientific matter. And by the way...your ASSumptions not only make you look like a total jackass, but completly confirms it. Happy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #31 September 24, 2011 Let me restate my opinion in a nicer manner. I believe in god AND science. Why would that be so difficult for you to understand that there can be people who not only believe in science, but endorse the benefits science brings. And NOT be an atheist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #32 September 24, 2011 Read what I wrote. Not what you think I mean by it, but the actual words.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sacex250 0 #33 September 24, 2011 A Neutrino sounds like it might be manufactured by Fiat. "My Neutrino goes faster than the speed of light," has a nice ring to it!It's all been said before, no sense repeating it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxwellman23 0 #34 September 24, 2011 What is mean't by information?I am ALIVE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 September 24, 2011 QuoteWhat is mean't by information? -.-. .- -. -.-- --- ..- .-. . .- -.. - .... .. ... ..--..quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #36 September 24, 2011 Quote Quote What is mean't by information? -.-. .- -. -.-- --- ..- .-. . .- -.. - .... .. ... ..--.. -.-- . ... / .. / -.-. .- -.What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,112 #37 September 24, 2011 >What is mean't by information? Any data you wish to transmit. A song. Stock quotes. A message that says "don't push the red button!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #38 September 24, 2011 Wow. Cool. Definately gonna follow this one :)Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 September 24, 2011 Quote Quote It's premature to make that statement. Much more work would need to be done to confirm that. nah, we got enough evidence to convict. Let's try it in Texas so we can be sure to get a death sentence. I thought, much like global warming, the science on this was settled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #40 September 24, 2011 Quote Quote It's premature to make that statement. Much more work would need to be done to confirm that. nah, we got enough evidence to convict. Let's try it in Texas so we can be sure to get a death sentence. Geezz...it only warrants a speeding ticket! Tough crowd. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #41 September 24, 2011 QuoteWhy would that be so difficult for you to understand that there can be people who not only believe in science, but endorse the benefits science brings. And NOT be an atheist? Cognitive dissonance? Explains a lot when dealing with the intersection of science and religion.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #42 September 24, 2011 neutrinos are funny things it was only a few years ago that they were supposed to be point particles with no mass. there was speculation then that they could travel faster than light (as i understand it you cannot accelerate anything to the speed of light - but if it was already travelling faster than the speed of light originally then that may be possible). a faster than light neutrino could be the same as a neutrino going backwards in time. or not stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #43 September 24, 2011 Quote What's the big deal? So we change E=MC^2 to E=MN^2 I think the Swiss clocks finally lost some time and they can't find it. Maybe VB has been screwing around again. causing mayhem since '74! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #44 September 24, 2011 QuoteA Neutrino sounds like it might be manufactured by Fiat. "My Neutrino goes faster than the speed of light," has a nice ring to it! Yeah, and Lucas equipped cars are faster than the speed of darkness.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #45 September 24, 2011 Quote Quote A Neutrino sounds like it might be manufactured by Fiat. "My Neutrino goes faster than the speed of light," has a nice ring to it! Yeah, and Lucas equipped cars are faster than the speed of darkness. Their motto: ~Be Sure to Get Home Before Dark~ The Lucas Vacuum Cleaner ...the only product they make that doesn't suck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #46 September 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote A Neutrino sounds like it might be manufactured by Fiat. "My Neutrino goes faster than the speed of light," has a nice ring to it! Yeah, and Lucas equipped cars are faster than the speed of darkness. Their motto: ~Be Sure to Get Home Before Dark~ The Lucas Vacuum Cleaner ...the only product they make that doesn't suck. Scientists are still trying to understand the physics behind the darkon particle emitted by Lucas headlamps and responsible for the missing mass of the universe. I think maybe they are overlooking the possibility of an elusive Lucas darkino that carries away the energy from the car battery while being otherwise undetectable.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #47 September 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote A Neutrino sounds like it might be manufactured by Fiat. "My Neutrino goes faster than the speed of light," has a nice ring to it! Yeah, and Lucas equipped cars are faster than the speed of darkness. Their motto: ~Be Sure to Get Home Before Dark~ The Lucas Vacuum Cleaner ...the only product they make that doesn't suck. Scientists are still trying to understand the physics behind the darkon particle emitted by Lucas headlamps and responsible for the missing mass of the universe. I think maybe they are overlooking the possibility of an elusive Lucas darkino that carries away the energy from the car battery while being otherwise undetectable. Hmmmm! You might be on to something there. Maybe the darkino has something to do with the "magic smoke" that is sometimes seen to be emanating randomly from various components thereby causing the darkon emission. I'd like to see a Feynman diagram of that process. Also, it was Heisenberg who came up with the "uncertainty principle" but it was Lucas who brought the idea to market with their "flicker" position on their switches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #48 September 24, 2011 !onirtueN ?ereht s'ohw kconk kconK... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #49 September 24, 2011 Quote !onirtueN ?ereht s'ohw kconk kconK Just a question - Is it the claim that the neutrinos exceeded the vacuum speed of light, c? Or did they exceed the speed of light through air or some other medium that would have slowed "light" but would have had no effect on the speed of the neutrinos? I would think that the "precise" measurement of the distance between emitter and detector would have had to have used some process that involved radio or other "photon-based" devices, including GPS, etc. How about local gravitational fields that might have more interaction with light than it does with neutrinos? My point is that there are a lot of things to take into consideration, given the 730 km distance. Any mistake or omission in the distance measurement could account for the "observed" speed. This experiment definitely needs to be reproduced by an independent team at a different location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #50 September 24, 2011 QuoteQuote !onirtueN ?ereht s'ohw kconk kconK Just a question - Is it the claim that the neutrinos exceeded the vacuum speed of light, c? Or did they exceed the speed of light through air or some other medium that would have slowed "light" but would have had no effect on the speed of the neutrinos? I would think that the "precise" measurement of the distance between emitter and detector would have had to have used some process that involved radio or other "photon-based" devices, including GPS, etc. How about local gravitational fields that might have more interaction with light than it does with neutrinos? My point is that there are a lot of things to take into consideration, given the 730 km distance. Any mistake or omission in the distance measurement could account for the "observed" speed. This experiment definitely needs to be reproduced by an independent team at a different location. Neutrinos are the Honey Badger of sub-atomic particles; vacuum, solid granite, they don't give a shit. That's why most of the really "good" neutrino experiments are done deep underground, like at Sudbury, that way you can be sure it's neutrinos that are being detected and not some other form of particles or radiation. As I stated higher up in the thread, my guess is that when push comes to shove we're going to find out some cable length hasn't been accounted for properly. Just 11 inches of cable is one nano second, which is practically an eternity at the sub-atomic level.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
