dreamdancer 0 #1 September 22, 2011 what a waste... QuotePolice made 853,838 arrests in 2010 for marijuana-related offenses, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. The arrest total is among the highest ever reported by the agency and is nearly identical to the total number of cannabis-related arrests reported in 2009. According to the report, marijuana arrests now comprise more than one-half (52 percent) of all drug arrests in the United States. An estimated 46 percent of all drug arrests are for offenses related to marijuana possession. “Today, as in past years, the so-called ‘drug war’ remains fueled by the arrests of minor marijuana possession offenders, a disproportionate percentage of whom are ethnic minorities,” NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano said in a prepared statement. “It makes no sense to continue to waste law enforcements’ time and taxpayers’ dollars to arrest and prosecute Americans for their use of a substance that poses far fewer health risks than alcohol or tobacco.” http://www.alternet.org/story/152497/marijuana_arrests_driving_america%E2%80%99s_%E2%80%98drug_war%2C%E2%80%99_latest_fbi_report_shows/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #2 September 22, 2011 Weed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #3 September 22, 2011 We really need to retune our nations "war on drugs". I don't know what the perfect solution is, but it just seems crazy that we spend so much money fighting weed. -Prison system costs. -Law enforcement costs. -Strain on our state and federal court systems. -The indirect costs of throwing some ones life off track by giving them a red stain for recreational marijuana use. -Human costs in Mexico and else where. We need to tell the corrections industry and law enforcement industry to fuck off. Law enforcement and corrections is needed, but it should be guided by common sense, not what keeps the highest level of employment for these special interest groups!!!"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #4 September 22, 2011 recreational drug use for adults should be legal, IMHO. now look at the costs (and lives) claimed by alcohol. never seen one toking himself to death.. this "war on drugs" is ridicilous..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #5 September 22, 2011 I would like to see Marijuna legalized and regulated on a state and local basis mainly to cut the Mexican drug cartels out of the market. If your local farm or hobbiest could grow and sell pot legally only on the local level why the hell would you buy pot from a shady drug dealer whose supply chain ends with the monsters who are killing thousands in Mexico. Or make it legal on the level of home production, like home brewing of beer and wine."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 September 22, 2011 QuoteWeed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Conservatards have voted that out of existence in favor of GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY the plutocrats. They are the only ones doing well. and they seem to be doing a stellar job of TRICKLING upon their police state forces... very very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 September 22, 2011 QuoteWe really need to retune our nations "war on drugs". I don't know what the perfect solution is, but it just seems crazy that we spend so much money fighting weed. -Prison system costs. -Law enforcement costs. -Strain on our state and federal court systems. -The indirect costs of throwing some ones life off track by giving them a red stain for recreational marijuana use. -Human costs in Mexico and else where. We need to tell the corrections industry and law enforcement industry to fuck off. Law enforcement and corrections is needed, but it should be guided by common sense, not what keeps the highest level of employment for these special interest groups!!! MJ is illegal by virue of federal and state statutes. Thus, the only real (and realistic) change will come about via new federal and state statutes. Anything else (both legally and practically) is gobbledy-gook. That means Congress and 50 state legislatures must change the laws. How much political will do you think there's going to be among those office-holders, anytime in the foreseeable future, to do that? I've practiced a lot of criminal law, and what you and the others have said very well here is borne out by what I see on the job all the time. Yes, it's a travesty that wastes countless taxpayer dollars and public resources at every level, and unjustly criminalizes huge segments of the population. But political reality is what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtbox 0 #8 September 22, 2011 ok I may be off topic so feel free to delete it. My question is why do people need to do drugs? I have never smoked anything or taken any drug (and hardly drink). A lot of my friends smoke pot, do E and coke and for a few of them life has gotten real bad real quick (be it kicked out from univ housing for being caught with the smallest sadest looking pot plant ever to full blown addiction and convictions). I have watched others I know (wouldn't call them friends) risk extremely high paying jobs as professional athletes for the sake of a 'high'. Why do people do that? Knowing that you are a parent and newlywed and that if you get caught with a single joint will ruin your and your babies life why would you want to smoke? What is so great about being drunk/high? Forget the politics of it - why not address the othe rlife factors that leave people wanting to be high/drunk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #9 September 22, 2011 if you dont understand it.. why do most people not enjoy skydiving? it's not about why somebody wants to do it, or not, it's about the freedom of choice..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #10 September 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteWeed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Conservatards have voted that out of existence in favor of GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY the plutocrats. They are the only ones doing well. and they seem to be doing a stellar job of TRICKLING upon their police state forces... very very well. More partisan nonsense and distraction. Law enforcement and correction officers unions and interest groups don't vote and lobby along party lines. They aren't pro democrat or pro republican, they are pro brotherhood. They are all for public policy that gets more employed on the streets and in jails. Look at California's three strikes laws. Who is the biggest proponent of that? The unions the represent the CA Corrections Officers. Mo people in jail, mo better. Oh yeah... TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKLLLLE.... KOOOOOCK BROTHERS.... rePUBIClowwwwwwwwn.... :::twitch::: DRRRIIIIIIP DRIIIIIIIIIIP. :::twitch::: Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee Smile."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #11 September 22, 2011 QuoteWeed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? Government "by the people" would probably do the same thing (on average they're easily manipulated) The California constitution can be amended by ballot initiatives passed by popular vote. Some of those initiatives come from the California prison guards union (California Correctional Peace Officers Association) which has an 80% success rate passing legislation. Net effects of that legislation have been to increase increase the number of prisoners (25,000 in 1980 to 168,000 in 2009), prisons (23 new prisons), and prison guards (5,600 in 1980 and 30,000 in 2009). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #12 September 22, 2011 Quoteok I may be off topic so feel free to delete it. My question is why do people need to do drugs? I have never smoked anything or taken any drug (and hardly drink). A lot of my friends smoke pot, do E and coke and for a few of them life has gotten real bad real quick (be it kicked out from univ housing for being caught with the smallest sadest looking pot plant ever to full blown addiction and convictions). I have watched others I know (wouldn't call them friends) risk extremely high paying jobs as professional athletes for the sake of a 'high'. People like new and intense experiences and drugs are a lot easier and less expensive than things like skydiving. Quote Why do people do that? Knowing that you are a parent and newlywed and that if you get caught with a single joint will ruin your and your babies life why would you want to smoke? A bad landing skydiving, crash riding a motorcycle, or failed startup business can all do the same thing. All those things are fun and have acceptable risk for many people. Quote What is so great about being drunk/high? It's less boring than being sober and watching TV. Having a landing area built in a national park below a cliff, chartering a Bell Jet Ranger to shuttle you to the top, and doing some big wall BASE jumping is a lot more fun but 1) Is much more expensive 2) Doesn't fit into the few hours people have between work and sleep 3) Is even more illegal in America 4) Is more dangerous (two out of seven jumpers on our trip left early - one from a sprained ankle; the other from a broken pelvis, tail bone, and various spinal vertebrae) A startup business can also be more fun than drugs. The last failure I was involved with 1) Spent $20 million getting there 2) Was an 80+ hour a week endeavor (I often slept under my desk and my wife slept in her car so we could work except when sleeping or eating) 3) Left one guy with night terrors who didn't work for a year 4) Led one guy to quit his career 5) Led to one divorce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie 3 #13 September 22, 2011 i am a firm believer in the premise that you can do as you wish as long as it doesn't negatively interfere with anyone else. i also feel that i can express this due to having fought in two conflicts for this country in order that everyone may do so as well. take the proceeds from a taxation scheme and use the savings on the war on drugs and pay down the deficit or finance the post office. but i digress, just my $.02.http://kitswv.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #14 September 22, 2011 Quoteok I may be off topic so feel free to delete it. My question is why do people need to do drugs? I have never smoked anything or taken any drug (and hardly drink). A lot of my friends smoke pot, do E and coke and for a few of them life has gotten real bad real quick (be it kicked out from univ housing for being caught with the smallest sadest looking pot plant ever to full blown addiction and convictions). I have watched others I know (wouldn't call them friends) risk extremely high paying jobs as professional athletes for the sake of a 'high'. Why do people do that? Knowing that you are a parent and newlywed and that if you get caught with a single joint will ruin your and your babies life why would you want to smoke? What is so great about being drunk/high? Forget the politics of it - why not address the othe rlife factors that leave people wanting to be high/drunk? You are conflating issues. I have no interest in smoking pot. I still think that the war on drugs is a ridiculous waste of money and effort and marijuana should be legalized immediately."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 September 22, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Weed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Conservatards have voted that out of existence in favor of GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY the plutocrats. They are the only ones doing well. and they seem to be doing a stellar job of TRICKLING upon their police state forces... very very well. More partisan nonsense and distraction. Law enforcement and correction officers unions and interest groups don't vote and lobby along party lines. They aren't pro democrat or pro republican, they are pro brotherhood. They are all for public policy that gets more employed on the streets and in jails. Look at California's three strikes laws. Who is the biggest proponent of that? The unions the represent the CA Corrections Officers. Mo people in jail, mo better. Oh yeah... TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKLLLLE.... KOOOOOCK BROTHERS.... rePUBIClowwwwwwwwn.... :::twitch::: DRRRIIIIIIP DRIIIIIIIIIIP. :::twitch::: Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee Smile. Cluelessness yet again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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DougH 270 #17 September 23, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Weed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Conservatards have voted that out of existence in favor of GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY the plutocrats. They are the only ones doing well. and they seem to be doing a stellar job of TRICKLING upon their police state forces... very very well. More partisan nonsense and distraction. Law enforcement and correction officers unions and interest groups don't vote and lobby along party lines. They aren't pro democrat or pro republican, they are pro brotherhood. They are all for public policy that gets more employed on the streets and in jails. Look at California's three strikes laws. Who is the biggest proponent of that? The unions the represent the CA Corrections Officers. Mo people in jail, mo better. Oh yeah... TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKLLLLE.... KOOOOOCK BROTHERS.... rePUBIClowwwwwwwwn.... :::twitch::: DRRRIIIIIIP DRIIIIIIIIIIP. :::twitch::: Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee Smile. Cluelessness yet again... The partisan raving and raging of an angry old woman, again! "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 September 23, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Weed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Conservatards have voted that out of existence in favor of GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY the plutocrats. They are the only ones doing well. and they seem to be doing a stellar job of TRICKLING upon their police state forces... very very well. More partisan nonsense and distraction. Law enforcement and correction officers unions and interest groups don't vote and lobby along party lines. They aren't pro democrat or pro republican, they are pro brotherhood. They are all for public policy that gets more employed on the streets and in jails. Look at California's three strikes laws. Who is the biggest proponent of that? The unions the represent the CA Corrections Officers. Mo people in jail, mo better. Oh yeah... TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKLLLLE.... KOOOOOCK BROTHERS.... rePUBIClowwwwwwwwn.... :::twitch::: DRRRIIIIIIP DRIIIIIIIIIIP. :::twitch::: Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee Smile. Cluelessness yet again... The partisan raving and raging of an angry old woman, again! Nice PA... I wonder if BILLVON will warn you about those????? Hows your TRICKLE tastin??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 September 23, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWeed's not the drug for me...but when I see a newlywed with a good job and a newborn baby get a year in county for posession of ONE joint, it's time to get real about this...I don't know one person that would've imposed that sentence. What ever happened to government by the people? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Conservatards have voted that out of existence in favor of GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY the plutocrats. They are the only ones doing well. and they seem to be doing a stellar job of TRICKLING upon their police state forces... very very well. More partisan nonsense and distraction. Law enforcement and correction officers unions and interest groups don't vote and lobby along party lines. They aren't pro democrat or pro republican, they are pro brotherhood. They are all for public policy that gets more employed on the streets and in jails. Look at California's three strikes laws. Who is the biggest proponent of that? The unions the represent the CA Corrections Officers. Mo people in jail, mo better. Oh yeah... TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKLLLLE.... KOOOOOCK BROTHERS.... rePUBIClowwwwwwwwn.... :::twitch::: DRRRIIIIIIP DRIIIIIIIIIIP. :::twitch::: Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee Smile. AWWWW such a nice young crafter of PA's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #20 September 23, 2011 Hello kettle, your looking awfully black today? What is the matter, don't like a trickle of your own typical procedures? Shouldn't you be googling for anal sex toys, alluding that other posters are homosexuals, and gay bashing? All my favorite lines are the ones that you constantly use in your posts! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #21 September 23, 2011 why dont you two get a room together; but also invite johnrich and christelsabine, otherwise we'll have even more drama going on between you guys.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #22 September 23, 2011 I don't think I am her type, which is too bad really. I think I am starting to get a crush. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 September 23, 2011 Quote I don't think I am her type, which is too bad really. I think I am starting to get a crush. Yeah. you are right of course... While I have gay male friends..and neighbors... I realized a long time ago that they are just not interested in women.. no matter how drunk you get them . oSo whats up with the avatar...cutting the woman in your picture out.... perhaps you could replace that avatar with a new one with your new paramour. So are you guys going to this years pride parade??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #24 September 23, 2011 >My question is why do people need to do drugs? They don't. Nor do they need to eat meat, or drink soda (that high fructose corn syrup will kill ya!) or look at pictures of scantily clad women. They certainly don't need to skydive, or race motorcycles, or watch TV. Heck, TV watching will kill you years before your time by turning you into a couch potato. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #25 September 23, 2011 Quote So whats up with the avatar...cutting the woman in your picture out.... perhaps you could replace that avatar with a new one with your new paramour. So are you guys going to this years pride parade??? Funny you mention it, because I have everyone's avatars shutoff, so I forget I even have one. Also very clever Grandma! I like how we stepped into the way back machine and headed all the way back to when you were in middle school for some good old fashion gay bashing! Nothing says I am intelligent and a quality human being quite like resorting to using peoples sexual orientation as a dig!"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites