kallend 2,146 #1 September 21, 2011 Top 5 countries worldwide to murder their own citizens in the name of the people: China Iran Iraq USA Pakistan Aren't we in great company?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 September 21, 2011 What is your definition of murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 September 21, 2011 Quote What is your definition of murder? I am good with that whole... "Thou shalt not kill" I am sure we will have some of our good Family Values Christian Conservative bloodthirsty apologists here any minute to argue that Jesus really meant that it was ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #4 September 21, 2011 Ever hear the George Carlin skit about the 10 commandments? The thou shalt not kill one is just a suggestion. Just look at how many people have been killed in the name of religion! God must not have ment that one to be taken to literally. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #5 September 21, 2011 Quote Top 5 countries worldwide to murder their own citizens in the name of the people: China Iran Iraq USA Pakistan Aren't we in great company? you should have worried about "the company you keep" 3 years ago when it could have made a difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #6 September 21, 2011 Quote Top 5 countries worldwide to murder their own citizens in the name of the people: China Iran Iraq USA Pakistan Aren't we in great company? Source? I'm not finding anyone who says this other than you."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuote Top 5 countries worldwide to murder their own citizens in the name of the people: China Iran Iraq USA Pakistan Aren't we in great company? Source? I'm not finding anyone who says this other than you. I would have figured a bright boy like you could figure that out.... do you keep track of the news??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #8 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote Top 5 countries worldwide to murder their own citizens in the name of the people: China Iran Iraq USA Pakistan Aren't we in great company? Source? I'm not finding anyone who says this other than you. I would have figured a bright boy like you could figure that out.... do you keep track of the news??? Not lately, I've been working long hours. And I am obviously not getting the right string of words for google. Why don't you hook a brother up?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #9 September 21, 2011 Never mind found it. I now understand why Kallend didn't post the reference. If he did, the U.S. wouldn't look as bad. Typical for a college professor. http://in.news.yahoo.com/china-iran-iraq-us-pak-countries-registering-most-053706146.html"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 September 21, 2011 Quote Never mind found it. I now understand why Kallend didn't post the reference. If he did, the U.S. wouldn't look as bad. Typical for a college professor. http://in.news.yahoo.com/china-iran-iraq-us-pak-countries-registering-most-053706146.html Not the reference I used ** At least you admit the USA looks bad, so I guess that's progress. USA is still in lousy company, no matter whose source you use. Other countries that we keep company with: Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Nigeria... What lovely people. ** I used Amnesty International... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 September 21, 2011 Executions are not murder. BTW, I am opposed to the death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 September 21, 2011 Quote Never mind found it. I now understand why Kallend didn't post the reference. If he did, the U.S. wouldn't look as bad. Typical for a college professor. http://in.news.yahoo.com/china-iran-iraq-us-pak-countries-registering-most-053706146.html No I was referring to this...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/15/troy-davis-execution-william-sessions_n_963366.html Georgia is going to murder an innocent man in the name of its people... more great Christian Conservative compassion on display. They would rather muder this man.. than reopen a case that would show their police and justice system for what they really are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #13 September 21, 2011 QuoteExecutions are not murder. BTW, I am opposed to the death penalty. Disagree. Executions are murder, and there's no recourse if subsequently a mistake has been found to have been made. Beyond a reasonable doubt is not the same as beyond any doubt at all. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is not a good excuse for killing anyone.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #14 September 21, 2011 Quote Quote Never mind found it. I now understand why Kallend didn't post the reference. If he did, the U.S. wouldn't look as bad. Typical for a college professor. http://in.news.yahoo.com/china-iran-iraq-us-pak-countries-registering-most-053706146.html Not the reference I used ** At least you admit the USA looks bad, so I guess that's progress. USA is still in lousy company, no matter whose source you use. Other countries that we keep company with: Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Nigeria... What lovely people. ** I used Amnesty International Look bad? no I think it is good that we eliminate the worst element of society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #15 September 21, 2011 QuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in. Wow, that's a really good excuse for killing people.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 September 21, 2011 QuoteExecutions are not murder. BTW, I am opposed to the death penalty. Legal definitions and moral definitions are often not identical. Many people, and some religions, do define judicial execution as a form of murder, regardless of the definition of the term created by a civil government. Some consider abortion to be murder. Some do not. Similar (even if not identical) comparison. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #18 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in. Wow, that's a really good excuse for killing people. You think liking rockets is a really good excuse for killing people? PS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #19 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in. Wow, that's a really good excuse for killing people. You think liking rockets is a really good excuse for killing people? PS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. Ummm - YOU brought rockets into the thread. If you want to persist with your non-sequiturs, be my guest.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #20 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in. Wow, that's a really good excuse for killing people. You think liking rockets is a really good excuse for killing people? PS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. Ummm - YOU brought rockets into the thread. If you want to persist with your non-sequiturs, be my guest. This entire thread is a non-sequitur."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #21 September 21, 2011 QuotePS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. No, but since you are about to execute a man where there is serious doubt about his guilt, this may not be the right argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #22 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuotePS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. No, but since you are about to execute a man where there is serious doubt about his guilt, this may not be the right argument. Just because no system is perfect does not mean that one system is not better than another system."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in. Wow, that's a really good excuse for killing people. You think liking rockets is a really good excuse for killing people? PS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. Ummm - YOU brought rockets into the thread. If you want to persist with your non-sequiturs, be my guest. This entire thread is a non-sequitur. Well, you didn't have to introduce rockets into a thread about the death penalty. Place the blame where it's due, on yourself.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #24 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotePS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. No, but since you are about to execute a man where there is serious doubt about his guilt, this may not be the right argument. Just because no system is perfect does not mean that one system is not better than another system. Well, just so long as it's better than another system makes everything fine. Just about the clearest statement I've ever heard in support of moral relativism. Maybe we should apply that standard to all our activities.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #25 September 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAren't we in great company? You like rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan like rockets ... what great company you're in. Wow, that's a really good excuse for killing people. You think liking rockets is a really good excuse for killing people? PS: Do all those countries have the same judicial system? No. Ummm - YOU brought rockets into the thread. If you want to persist with your non-sequiturs, be my guest. This entire thread is a non-sequitur. Well, you didn't have to introduce rockets into a thread about the death penalty. Place the blame where it's due, on yourself. How is this entire thread being a non-sequitur my fault? You created this thread. Place the blame on yourself. As far as rockets ... I think it fits nicely in this thread. After all, rockets have killed innocent people. You use rockets. China, Iran, Iraq, USA, and Pakistan use rockets. What great company you're in."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
