hwt 0 #1 September 19, 2011 http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-18/news/ct-oped-0918-chapman-20110918_1_obama-iran-contra-scandal-house-spokesman-bill-burton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #2 September 19, 2011 I noticed a reference to Rick Perry for president... Google 'Top Chef Texas Rick Perry' I think, you'll find it interesting. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #3 September 19, 2011 "Why Obama should withdraw" Because the GOP knows they can't win against him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 September 19, 2011 Quote"Why Obama should withdraw" Because the GOP knows they can't win against him. That's some funny stuff right there. Barry will be campaigning to raise taxes. Whether it's the right or wrong thing to do aside, can't remember any successful presidential hopefuls with the slogan "Vote for me, I'll raise your taxes".Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #5 September 19, 2011 QuoteQuote"Why Obama should withdraw" Because the GOP knows they can't win against him. That's some funny stuff right there. Barry will be campaigning to raise taxes. Whether it's the right or wrong thing to do aside, can't remember any successful presidential hopefuls with the slogan "Vote for me, I'll raise your taxes". He won't do that; no president does, so your premise, since it will never happen, is a non-starter. He will, however, campaign on "cut spending and increase revenues by raising taxes on the very rich." That may appeal to the independent/swing voters who were the deciding votes in the last 3 presidential elections and will probably decide the next one. That middle-class demographic tends not to be moved by any items-of-faith, including the "taxes" one, and will probably be attracted by a balanced approach. On the other hand, that segment is also very fickle, and cannot be taken for granted. If by, say, October 2012 they decide Obama is ineffective, AND their own pocketbooks are hurtin', AND the GOP nominee is fairly non-scary, then they could hand the election to the GOP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 September 19, 2011 Quote"Why Obama should withdraw" Because the GOP knows they can't win against him. Yep You just keep on thinking that my friend And everything will be ok .. .. ... . . . . . . for a while in your world"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #7 September 19, 2011 Quote... AND the GOP nominee is fairly non-scary, then they could hand the election to the GOP. What do you think the chances are of the GOP nominee being "Fairly non-scary"? It seems like the fringes are taking over the primary process (for both parties, not just the "R's"). Perry is the current front runner, Bachmann was the previous. Both strike me as scary enough that I wouldn't vote for them in the general election, and I've voted for the "R" candidate for a very long time. Recently it's been far more of a vote against the "D" candidate than an acutal vote for the "R", but I'd probably not vote at all in the general election if either of those 2 was the "R" candidate."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #8 September 19, 2011 Quotecan't remember any successful presidential hopefuls with the slogan "Vote for me, I'll raise your taxes". That mindset will be one of the main stumbling blocks for any economic revival in the US. Just take a look at Greece (Or Spain, or Italy). Most feel that cuts in spending and raises in taxes should only affect other people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 September 20, 2011 Quote Quote ... AND the GOP nominee is fairly non-scary, then they could hand the election to the GOP. What do you think the chances are of the GOP nominee being "Fairly non-scary"? It seems like the fringes are taking over the primary process (for both parties, not just the "R's"). Perry is the current front runner, Bachmann was the previous. Both strike me as scary enough that I wouldn't vote for them in the general election, and I've voted for the "R" candidate for a very long time. Recently it's been far more of a vote against the "D" candidate than an acutal vote for the "R", but I'd probably not vote at all in the general election if either of those 2 was the "R" candidate. The GOP once contained moderates, those days are long gone. In the GOP today.. Goldwater, Ike and even Reagan could never get to be the nominee of the party. All of them and their political positions are just seen as R I N O's in the minds of most of the base that must be pandered to Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites