livendive 8 #26 September 7, 2011 QuoteRegardless, I'm sure he'll get better treatment from the MSM than Palin's urging her readers to vote out Dems did. Last I checked, Palin = Palin, but Obama /= Hoffa. Why would you blame Obama for what Hoffa says? Is he also responsible for what Olbermann says? And Amazon? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteRegardless, I'm sure he'll get better treatment from the MSM than Palin's urging her readers to vote out Dems did. Last I checked, Palin = Palin, but Obama /= Hoffa. Why would you blame Obama for what Hoffa says? Is he also responsible for what Olbermann says? And Amazon? Blues, Dave When this was all going on, WHO was calling for civility in the discourse??? The hypocritial double standard is blinding"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #28 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? The weasel has landed. Hope you had a good landing, then. Wow, now he's back to the rubber/glue debating style.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #29 September 7, 2011 QuoteI'm sure the Dems think so - after all, they get to say anything they want with no consequences. Is that what the Fox soundbite told you....guess that makes you fair and balanced too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #30 September 7, 2011 QuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. Which you tried to do But all here can see you failed"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 September 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Perhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? The weasel has landed. Hope you had a good landing, then. Wow, now he's back to the rubber/glue debating style. So you start out with a childish pa, and then claim someone else is being childish??? Besides the irony meter melting, that is just plain funny"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteRegardless, I'm sure he'll get better treatment from the MSM than Palin's urging her readers to vote out Dems did. Last I checked, Palin = Palin, but Obama /= Hoffa. Why would you blame Obama for what Hoffa says? Is he also responsible for what Olbermann says? And Amazon? Blues, Dave I'm speaking of treatment of Hoffa, not Obama. Sorry if there was confusion.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? The weasel has landed. Hope you had a good landing, then. Wow, now he's back to the rubber/glue debating style. And you STILL think your drivel is worth anything more than that. I pity your "75 is an A" students.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteI'm sure the Dems think so - after all, they get to say anything they want with no consequences. Is that what the Fox soundbite told you....guess that makes you fair and balanced too... Is that what Moveon told you to say if someone talked about the double standard?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #35 September 7, 2011 No, I acknowledge there is a double standard. There is in everything in life. I am assuming that everybody who has made it passed the age of 16 has figured that one out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #36 September 9, 2011 QuoteOopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** I don't think you can use "Media Matters" to debunk anything Fox news says. They are more partisan than anyone. If you go to there home page they have a big "Drop Fox" banner going right across the front of it. They have tried to brand themselves as a media watch dog, but they are funded by george soros and have been caught in the occasional lie them selves pushing some of the occasional left wing crap worse than some of the bloggers out there. Not to mention if memory serves, they just recently had their public funding pulled because of there agenda. Just thought you should take a closer look at your "source""There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 September 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteOopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** I don't think you can use "Media Matters" to debunk anything Fox news says. They are more partisan than anyone. If you go to there home page they have a big "Drop Fox" banner going right across the front of it. They have tried to brand themselves as a media watch dog, but they are funded by george soros and have been caught in the occasional lie them selves pushing some of the occasional left wing crap worse than some of the bloggers out there. Not to mention if memory serves, they just recently had their public funding pulled because of there agenda. Just thought you should take a closer look at your "source" I stated clearly in my Post #15: "..my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. " I wasn't challenging the messenger; I was challenging the message. What you're doing is challenging the messenger. Rather, I'd suggest you address the substance of the piece I quoted; it's either correct or not, regardless of the conduit of information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 September 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteOopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** I don't think you can use "Media Matters" to debunk anything Fox news says. They are more partisan than anyone. If you go to there home page they have a big "Drop Fox" banner going right across the front of it. They have tried to brand themselves as a media watch dog, but they are funded by george soros and have been caught in the occasional lie them selves pushing some of the occasional left wing crap worse than some of the bloggers out there. Not to mention if memory serves, they just recently had their public funding pulled because of there agenda. Just thought you should take a closer look at your "source" I stated clearly in my Post #15: "..my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. " I wasn't challenging the messenger; I was challenging the message. What you're doing is challenging the messenger. Rather, I'd suggest you address the substance of the piece I quoted; it's either correct or not, regardless of the conduit of information. In doing this you took took the OP off to a different tangent This is no different than when the Dems took after Palin Both were stupid So the point of the hypocitical double standard is right on the money"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #39 September 9, 2011 QuoteSo the point of the hypocitical double standard is right on the money Yes it is, there is a hypocritical double standard in everything in life. I am sure you have a couple as well. We know Fox has it. We know several Family Value Republicans have it. We know Democrats have it. Everybody has it. In other earth shattering news, on a cloudless sunny day, the sky was observed to be blue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 September 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo the point of the hypocitical double standard is right on the money Yes it is, there is a hypocritical double standard in everything in life. I am sure you have a couple as well. We know Fox has it. We know several Family Value Republicans have it. We know Democrats have it. Everybody has it. In other earth shattering news, on a cloudless sunny day, the sky was observed to be blue. So my post of his definition is correct Thanks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #41 September 9, 2011 Indeed correct. And useless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #42 September 9, 2011 QuoteIndeed correct. And useless. Yes, he is useless and dangerous"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #43 September 9, 2011 And now we have arrived at the actual reason for you posting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #44 September 9, 2011 QuoteAnd now we have arrived at the actual reason for you posting it. No, not really but I do get a kick out of posts like yours here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #45 September 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteOopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** I don't think you can use "Media Matters" to debunk anything Fox news says. They are more partisan than anyone. If you go to there home page they have a big "Drop Fox" banner going right across the front of it. They have tried to brand themselves as a media watch dog, but they are funded by george soros and have been caught in the occasional lie them selves pushing some of the occasional left wing crap worse than some of the bloggers out there. Not to mention if memory serves, they just recently had their public funding pulled because of there agenda. Just thought you should take a closer look at your "source" I stated clearly in my Post #15: "..my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. " I wasn't challenging the messenger; I was challenging the message. What you're doing is challenging the messenger. Rather, I'd suggest you address the substance of the piece I quoted; it's either correct or not, regardless of the conduit of information. So tell me counselor, You never attacked the messenger in court?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites