rushmc 23 #1 September 6, 2011 We now have a clear vision of what the Obama definition of civility in public discussions That being the Dems can say all they want, when they want and how they want The Republicans are supposed to talk nice or STFU An opinion? Yes But how can you argue with my opinion based on the following events? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/05/jimmy_hoffa_at_obama_event_on_gop_lets_take_these_son_of_bitches_out.html So, three different chances to talk about these comments and what happens? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100103267/will-barack-obama-condemn-joe-biden-and-jimmy-hoffa-for-calling-republicans-barbarians-and-sons-of-bitches/ http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/white-house-declines-to-comment-on-union-leaders-anti-tea-party-rhetoric-at-labor-day-rally-2/ http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/06/showdown_on_fox__friends_wasserman_schultz_avoids_hoffa_question.html And of course we got our favorite gaff machine walking into it yet again (with out the gaff but WITH civility?) http://www.hapblog.com/2011/09/biden-at-afl-cio-rally-you-are-only.html So here is my prediction. Obamas numbers set new lows this morning Unless he can find a way to change this, (and I doubt he will because he can’t get passed his own ideology), the conversation from the left will get very ugly."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #2 September 6, 2011 I think it's a lot like his definition of 'compromise' a few 'straight shooters' should be able to figure it out ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 September 6, 2011 QuoteI think it's a lot like his definition of 'compromise' a few 'straight shooters' should be able to figure it out and shared sacrifice"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 September 6, 2011 Just confirming what we already know.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #5 September 6, 2011 QuoteJust confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 September 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteJust confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... Pot meet Kettle ... Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 September 6, 2011 Quote Quote Just confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... And you are obsessed by others who have more than you and leave MY navel out of this It IS mine I was born with it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 September 6, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Just confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... Pot meet Kettle ... one can only wonder what he might want of yours"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 September 6, 2011 Quote Quote Just confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... HEY!! Find a navel to steal using government program sanctioned theft yet? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #10 September 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteJust confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... Don't you have some evil vampire bankers to hunt down?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #11 September 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteJust confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... At least his does not need to be transparent for him to navigate. Just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #12 September 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Just confirming what we already know. that the thread starter is obsessed with his own navel... HEY!! Find a navel to steal using government program sanctioned theft yet? No. The government frowns on theft of naval property. http://www.ig.navy.mil/complaints/Complaints%20%20%28Theft%20of%20Government%20Property%29.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 September 7, 2011 Oopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 September 7, 2011 QuoteOopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** A left-wing think tank clearing a union member...color me surprised. Regardless, I'm sure he'll get better treatment from the MSM than Palin's urging her readers to vote out Dems did.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 September 7, 2011 Perhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 September 7, 2011 QuoteOopsie! http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003 ***Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress. *** Which is the same thing the left did when talking about the targets? Yes it is I watched the whole segement of the speech It is as you post here And it is no different than the target controversy Good for the goose Good for the gander"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 September 7, 2011 QuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. Which shows the hypocrisy involved"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 September 7, 2011 Just to be clear Andy9o8's post defines exactly the point I was making. Which is a glaring double standard laced with hypocrisy Obama's definition of civility is as he and the Dems need it to be, so they can try and control the debate The debate! Not the rhetoric "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 September 7, 2011 QuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #20 September 7, 2011 Nope, it is all very Fair and Balanced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 September 7, 2011 QuoteNope, it is all very Fair and Balanced. I'm sure the Dems think so - after all, they get to say anything they want with no consequences.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #22 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? Mike, others may be willing to engage in this style of debate, i.e., quibbling over semantic minutiae rather than substance, ad infinitum, until the thread is overwhelmed. I'm just not. Nothin' personal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #23 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? The weasel has landed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? Mike, others may be willing to engage in this style of debate, i.e., quibbling over semantic minutiae rather than substance, ad infinitum, until the thread is overwhelmed. I'm just not. Nothin' personal. So, where's the 'substance' in the OP that supports your 'call to violence' rebuttal?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotePerhaps; but my point wasn't so much to indict Fox"News" as it was to debunk the ostensible premise of the OP. I must have missed where the OP claimed it was a call to violence - is that what "civility" means now? The weasel has landed. Hope you had a good landing, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites