rushmc 23 #1 September 2, 2011 Or if re-elected he will reverse himself? (I know many will not agree with the premise but I think it it the right thing. I am just wondering if this is just a re-election ploy) What say you? QuoteObama halts controversial EPA regulation http://news.yahoo.com/obama-halts-controversial-epa-regulation-143731156.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 September 2, 2011 QuoteOr if re-elected he will reverse himself? (I know many will not agree with the premise but I think it it the right thing. I am just wondering if this is just a re-election ploy) What say you? QuoteObama halts controversial EPA regulation http://news.yahoo.com/obama-halts-controversial-epa-regulation-143731156.html Sure.. great idea... but I wanna see you flip flop in front of us when you or someone in your family gets lung cancer from the pollutants you do not believe exist... and or are an impediment to your favorite brothers from becoming even more fabulously wealthy at the espense of American lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 September 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteOr if re-elected he will reverse himself? (I know many will not agree with the premise but I think it it the right thing. I am just wondering if this is just a re-election ploy) What say you? QuoteObama halts controversial EPA regulation http://news.yahoo.com/obama-halts-controversial-epa-regulation-143731156.html Sure.. great idea... but I wanna see you flip flop in front of us when you or someone in your family gets lung cancer from the pollutants you do not believe exist... and or are an impediment to your favorite brothers from becoming even more fabulously wealthy at the espense of American lives. No, I am more of an impediment to those like you who would drag this country even further off the left handed cliff we are on the edge of BTW, my dad died of small cell lung cancer"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 September 2, 2011 QuoteWhat say you? I think it's a tough balancing act. Ultimately I think it's the wrong move, but when you consider the tough economy, I also think backing off a little isn't such a bad idea IF the savings go to putting people to work. My fear would be though that the companies aren't going to hire anyone, just continue business as usual. It's like when the government gave a tax break to the airlines to get people flying and the savings wasn't passed on to the passengers. Ever see the movie "Mars Attacks"? To me it's a bit like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 September 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteOr if re-elected he will reverse himself? (I know many will not agree with the premise but I think it it the right thing. I am just wondering if this is just a re-election ploy) What say you? QuoteObama halts controversial EPA regulation http://news.yahoo.com/obama-halts-controversial-epa-regulation-143731156.html Sure.. great idea... but I wanna see you flip flop in front of us when you or someone in your family gets lung cancer from the pollutants you do not believe exist... and or are an impediment to your favorite brothers from becoming even more fabulously wealthy at the espense of American lives. No, I am more of an impediment to those like you who would drag this country even further off the left handed cliff we are on the edge of BTW, my dad died of small cell lung cancer So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 September 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat say you? I think it's a tough balancing act. Ultimately I think it's the wrong move, but when you consider the tough economy, I also think backing off a little isn't such a bad idea IF the savings go to putting people to work. My fear would be though that the companies aren't going to hire anyone, just continue business as usual. It's like when the government gave a tax break to the airlines to get people flying and the savings wasn't passed on to the passengers. Ever see the movie "Mars Attacks"? To me it's a bit like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0 I agree with you about the balancing act As far as Mars Attacks? Never seen it and I have no desire to go to the link provided I do however think companies with hire IF they know what they are getting into I watched a good show on IPTV that was comparing todays financial environment to that what was just before the great depression One of the more interesting things they talked about was the fact that companies have much more cash that they did back then Because of this are much better positioned to survive in the current situation They also said that they (the analysts) did not see companies hiring because of the unknowns and these companies would therefore would keep the cash in the bank until they understood what was coming Obama care was/is a big unknown along with EPA regs and other factors I think the companies holding cash are not evil. They are just being prudent. But in the end, regardless of what happens in two years, it is the right thing to do today"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 September 2, 2011 Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #8 September 2, 2011 Quote Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes You owe me an irony meter. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #9 September 2, 2011 QuotePunishing business and industry that have nothing to do with creating the problem will not solve it. If those businesses and industries have nothing to do with creating the problem, then the tougher standards should not have any effect on them. Only those industries that are emitting smog and ozone in amounts above the proposed standard, which is based on extensive study of the relationship between ozone and respiratory disease, would be affected. Exactly how are industries and businesses that don't release excessive amounts of ozone being punished? Numerous studies have found that reducing ozone emissions to the proposed standard would reduce premature deaths due to lung disease by around 12,000 people/year, and reduce the expense of hospital visits and medical care for those with chronic asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, etc by over a billion dollars/year. Yet the Obama administration punted once again, in a manner that retains ozone standards at the 1997 level. Of course the move is hailed by industry groups, who once again demonstrate their willingness to poison and kill the general population as long as it improves their profit margin. Anyone who expects industry to look out for our best interests is living in fantasy land. Unfortunately the same seems to be true of the government. I guess the best advise for now is just don't breathe. I'm not sure about downtown Atlanta as a purple blob, but taking off from Monroe (just East of Atlanta) as you go through 4-5,000 feet suddenly the sky becomes bluer, and on the horizon you can see a definite line where everything lower down is enveloped in rusty brown smog. People have no idea of the shit they are forced to breath all day, every day. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #10 September 2, 2011 Quote Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes You DO know that you replied to yourself, don't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #11 September 2, 2011 QuoteMy fear would be though that the companies aren't going to hire anyone, just continue business as usual. It's like when the government gave a tax break to the airlines to get people flying and the savings wasn't passed on to the passengers. You can count on it. More profit for shareholders.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes You owe me an irony meter. Don I didn't say what the cause of his cancer was. Yet the post was some kind of pollution caused it. The Drs have a pretty good idea what caused it Do you? You lefties are such owner of the Obama defined, civil discourse"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes You DO know that you replied to yourself, don't you? No I missed that I am tired as I just got back from Couch Freaks for one day of work"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes You DO know that you replied to yourself, don't you? No I missed that I am tired as I just got back from Couch Freaks for one day of work I thought you nailed yourself quite well with that one...Dr. Freud is proud of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Hook, line and sinker You do make it easy to expose your limited thought processes You DO know that you replied to yourself, don't you? No I missed that I am tired as I just got back from Couch Freaks for one day of work I thought you nailed yourself quite well with that one...Dr. Freud is proud of you. And your Obama defined civility and compassion is obvious"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #16 September 3, 2011 Quote So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Even from you that is a shitty heartless comment.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 September 3, 2011 QuoteQuote So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Even from you that is a shitty heartless comment. thanks for the support So all here know, the small cell cancer that took my dad was caused (the Dr's think) by a acid reflux condition. A cousin of mine just got the same diagnosis. (and they think the cause is the same) If you got really bad heart burn people, get it checked. Small cell lung cancer has no symptoms until it may be too late. Yes, even you Amazon. Thanks again I miss my dad"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #18 September 4, 2011 Sorry about your dad. Really. My "irony meter" post was about you addressing that post to yourself. I can't see how you associated it with the post about your dad's cancer, but that certainly wasn't my meaning. Acid reflux can be associated with cancer, but that outcome is made more likely if someone's lungs have additionally been damaged by smoking, excessive ozone exposure, etc. I think it's a sad situation when businesses knowingly put their profit ahead of people's health. Sometimes I wish I believed in karma. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 September 4, 2011 QuoteQuote So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Even from you that is a shitty heartless comment. What goes around.. comes around... Karma has a way of doing that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #20 September 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Even from you that is a shitty heartless comment. What goes around.. comes around... Karma has a way of doing that Thus, you are in deep, deep kimchee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 September 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Even from you that is a shitty heartless comment. What goes around.. comes around... Karma has a way of doing that Thus, you are in deep, deep kimchee. Not at all.. suck all the kimchee you want bubba Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 September 4, 2011 First, Yep I messed up by posting to myself Stupid Nuff said Second, dad had smoked when he was younger He had stopped 35 or 40 years prior to his cancer Second The bs thrown around that coal fired plants kill x amount of people is a bunch of crap This is just talk They say we have studies SO ? Show proof They can't I think Steve Milloy does a good job (yes, I know he is a denier billvon and kallen, and you are both alarmists) So read for the content please EPA's air quality over kill http://junkscience.com/2011/07/29/epa%E2%80%99s-air-quality-overkill/ And this This is look back when the air was much worse in some areas http://junkscience.com/2011/08/19/air-pollution-scare-debunked/#more-2542 Oh and thanks for your post"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 September 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote So whats good for your family.. is good for everyone else to experience.. got it. Even from you that is a shitty heartless comment. What goes around.. comes around... Karma has a way of doing that Thus, you are in deep, deep kimchee. It appears that a new low has been set"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #24 September 4, 2011 Quote What goes around.. comes around... Karma has a way of doing that Are you refering to his Dad dying??? Please tell me that this is NOT how you're refering to Karma.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #25 September 4, 2011 Pretty trashy comments, glad to see partisanship and pettyness come before humility and compassion on here. KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCHKKKKK BROOOOOTHERS.... TRICKKKKKKKKKKKKKLE..... rePUBICclowns.... :::Twitch::: :::twitch:::: TRICCKLLLLEEEEEE :::twitch:::: Pretty sad!"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
