JohnRich 4 #1 August 24, 2011 News:The lowdown on crime in Canada "A look at Canada, in the context of international crime statistics and the factors behind them, yields some myth-busting results. More guns, for instance, don’t always equate to higher murder rates... "Among the factors determining murder rates, levels of gun ownership is among the most overstated and least reliable, in Mauser’s view. 'There is no empirical support for the claim that gun ownership is related to violence rates,' he says. Certainly Canada is not the gun-free zone you might think. It has the 13th highest civilian gun ownership in the world. Canadians have more firepower—31 guns for every 100 civilians—than South Africa (13 per 100) Jamaica (8 per 100) or Columbia (six per 100), where murder rates surpass Canada by as much as 20-times or more..."Full story: http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/01/the-lowdown-on-crime-in-canada%E2%80%94compared-to-other-countries/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #2 August 24, 2011 QuoteMore guns, for instance, don’t always equate to higher murder rates Honestly, does anyone really believe such a simplistic view anymore? I doubt that anyone with a brain doesn't think that the local culture is a vital determinate to gun crime. Which I'd put way in front of availability and inextricable linked with it.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 August 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteMore guns, for instance, don’t always equate to higher murder rates Honestly, does anyone really believe such a simplistic view anymore? Yes. Millions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 385 #4 August 24, 2011 QuoteNews:The lowdown on crime in Canada "A look at Canada, in the context of international crime statistics and the factors behind them, yields some myth-busting results. More guns, for instance, don’t always equate to higher murder rates... "Among the factors determining murder rates, levels of gun ownership is among the most overstated and least reliable, in Mauser’s view. 'There is no empirical support for the claim that gun ownership is related to violence rates,' he says. Certainly Canada is not the gun-free zone you might think. It has the 13th highest civilian gun ownership in the world. Canadians have more firepower—31 guns for every 100 civilians—than South Africa (13 per 100) Jamaica (8 per 100) or Columbia (six per 100), where murder rates surpass Canada by as much as 20-times or more..."Full story: http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/01/the-lowdown-on-crime-in-canada%E2%80%94compared-to-other-countries/ So your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 August 24, 2011 QuoteSo your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? The point is that guns don't cause crime. The explanation for why Canada has a lot of guns and relatively little gun crime, does indeed include "culture" as a large part of it. Along with other variables like economics, poverty, and demographic factors, like the small number of large, densely-packed cities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #6 August 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteMore guns, for instance, don’t always equate to higher murder rates Honestly, does anyone really believe such a simplistic view anymore? I doubt that anyone with a brain doesn't think that the local culture is a vital determinate to gun crime. Which I'd put way in front of availability and inextricable linked with it. I don't know where or what planet you live on but local culture and it's sub cultures especially among the immigrants and minority races within a country are the main cause of fire arms offences. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #7 August 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? The point is that guns don't cause crime. The explanation for why Canada has a lot of guns and relatively little gun crime, does indeed include "culture" as a large part of it. Along with other variables like economics, poverty, and demographic factors, like the small number of large, densely-packed cities. I just had three Canadian women stay at my house over the weekend. All 3 were native North Americans. Dene and Cree. All 3 live in the Northwest Territories and/or Northern BC. Some guests I've had seem intimidated by the fact that I keep firearms in my house. Not these three though. They never gave it a second thought. Guns are a way of life where they live. Most households have a couple. More rifles than handguns, but handguns are not uncommon there either. They are used for hunting and protection from wild animals. Moose, bear, cougars, wolves, etc. Lots of guns, very low crime rates.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 August 24, 2011 QuoteSo your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? You say that like you expect some disagreement from someone.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 August 24, 2011 Quote I doubt that anyone with a brain doesn't think that the local culture is a vital determinate to gun crime. Quote I don't know where or what planet you live on but local culture and it's sub cultures .....are the main cause of fire arms offences. English is such a hard language to use to say what you really mean. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 385 #10 August 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? The point is that guns don't cause crime. The explanation for why Canada has a lot of guns and relatively little gun crime, does indeed include "culture" as a large part of it. Along with other variables like economics, poverty, and demographic factors, like the small number of large, densely-packed cities.Just pulling your leg, John. I happen to agree with you. Eh! Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #11 August 25, 2011 Quote So your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? Don Lots of Tim Hortons in Canada, not so many in the U.S. ergo, Tim Horton's lowers the crime rate."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemedic 7 #12 August 25, 2011 QuoteQuote So your point is that Canadians are more civilized than Americans, eh? Don Lots of Tim Hortons in Canada, not so many in the U.S. ergo, Tim Horton's lowers the crime rate. No, it's all the RCMP's hanging out at Tim Horton's that lowers the crime rate. Note: Fixed the Acronym in bold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #13 August 25, 2011 QuoteNo, it's all the RCMP's hanging out at Tim Horton's that lowers the crime rate. LOL ... it's not just the Mounties. Donuts are popular with all different types of cops. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
