mnealtx 0 #26 August 19, 2011 QuoteQuote "What people recognize is that there's a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline. They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward, Well if you are correct then she has a grasp of history worse than a five year old; because then it seems that she also thinks that India and China also fell... Really Mike, must try harder mate (Or accept the obvious fact that the woman is clueless). Care to show where she said ANY of them fell, Jamile? Or are you just going to continue bashing her based against what you THINK she said?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #27 August 19, 2011 To recap... Quote If she never realized the Soviet Union fell, then she would have referred to the Soviet Empire in a present tense rather than a future tense, would she not? So either she thinks they fell or... She didn't realise that the Soviet Union had fallen. Q.E.D.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 August 19, 2011 QuoteTo recap... Quote If she never realized the Soviet Union fell, then she would have referred to the Soviet Empire in a present tense rather than a future tense, would she not? So either she thinks they fell or... She didn't realise that the Soviet Union had fallen. Q.E.D. Claiming that India and China had to have fallen because the USSR did is specious argument. I hardly expected you to 'pull a DD' as your 'proof'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #29 August 19, 2011 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #30 August 19, 2011 Some of us have no trouble understanding what she was saying without disecting every sentence and word and others need it broken down so far that it loses it's meaning and is easier to take out of context. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #31 August 19, 2011 >Some of us have no trouble understanding what she was saying without disecting every sentence . . . . . . unless, of course, it's Obama. Then he's wrong (and an idiot, and unfit to govern etc etc.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #32 August 19, 2011 Quote It appears as if it's Schrödinger's cat. I wasn't aware that applied to maintext, but it appears some have different theories of how the English language works.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #33 August 19, 2011 No critical thinking clearly isn't your strong point. But maybe you're right and I am wrong, maybe she really is a genius with her finger on the pulse of whats going on in the world. Or there again... Quote 1. "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak that happened when Gerald Ford, a Republican, was president, April 28, 2009 2. "There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, Oct. 2006 3. "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009 4. "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too" -Rep. Michele Bachmann, getting her John Waynes mixed up during an interview after launching her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, where she grew up. The beloved movie star John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, three hours away. The John Wayne that Waterloo was home to is John Wayne Gacy, a notorious serial killer. (June 2011) 5. "I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America?" -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, calling for a new McCarthyism, Oct. 2008 6. "Take this into consideration. If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the Census Bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations at the request of President Roosevelt, and that's how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I'm not saying that that's what the Administration is planning to do, but I am saying that private personal information that was given to the Census Bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up, in a violation of their constitutional rights, and put the Japanese in internment camps." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, June 2009 7. "If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005 8. "During the last 100 days we have seen an orgy. It would make any local smorgasbord embarrassed … The government spent its wad by April 26." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, accusing the Obama administration of premature fiscal ejaculation, May 2009 9. "That's why people need to continue to go to the town halls, continue to melt the phone lines of their liberal members of Congress, and let them know, under no certain circumstances will I give the government control over my body and my health care decisions." -Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), a pro-lifer who completely missed the irony of using the same slogan as the pro-choice movement in arguing against health care reform 10. "Does that mean that someone's 13-year-old daughter could walk into a sex clinic, have a pregnancy test done, be taken away to the local Planned Parenthood abortion clinic, have their abortion, be back and go home on the school bus? That night, mom and dad are never the wiser." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on health care reform's potential to dupe parents, October 2009 Maybe not. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #34 August 20, 2011 And we can post just as much dumb stuff you favorite politicians have said. Was there a point you were trying to make with your superior thinking skills? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #35 August 20, 2011 Keep pondering, you'll get it eventually.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #36 August 20, 2011 Quote Keep pondering, you'll get it eventually. This coming from someone who still uses pencil and paper to take notes. Not surprising you didn't know about Putins plans even though they have been well covered in the press. Try to keep up, will you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #37 August 20, 2011 Poopoo head When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #38 August 21, 2011 So what do the Russians make of her comments? Quote In Bachmann’s defense, it’s not as if the Soviet Union’s threat of nuclear weaponry put the USSR and America at a nerve-wracking standstill for several decades that historically ended 20 years ago signaling one of the most important and world-shaping disintegrations of a governing body in modern history as we know it. No, no, no. That never happened. Apparently another thing that never happened was Bachmann opening her eyes and ears during, say, most of the late 1980s and early 1990s. Representing herself earlier this year as the embodiment of serial killer John Wayne Gacy was one thing; wishing Elvis Presley a happy birthday on the anniversary of his death this week was another. But to admit that you know nothing about international politics might be the nail in the coffin for a campaign consistently being marred by stupid sound bytes. http://rt.com/usa/news/bachmann-soviet-union-threat/When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 August 21, 2011 Here's an interesting article. http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oew-meier-moynihan29-2008aug29,0,2485901.story If you bother to read it and are still interested in learning more, click on the links at the bottom of the page and read the 5 day discussion about this topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #40 August 21, 2011 Yes it is an interesting article.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #41 August 21, 2011 Quote Personally I don't care if a Republican or a Democrat wins, so long as they are intelligent, have a critical mind and a desire for stability in the world. However, it seems that the Republicans are having a stupidity contest, first Palin now this idiot and Perry. What is really worrying is that they're not just some hopefuls but are actually in Congress! Also why doe there seem to be a media blackout on Ron Paul? Please name me three Democrats you consider as bad as those three Rebublicans? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #42 August 21, 2011 Quote Quote Personally I don't care if a Republican or a Democrat wins, so long as they are intelligent, have a critical mind and a desire for stability in the world. However, it seems that the Republicans are having a stupidity contest, first Palin now this idiot and Perry. What is really worrying is that they're not just some hopefuls but are actually in Congress! Also why doe there seem to be a media blackout on Ron Paul? Please name me three Democrats you consider as bad as those three Rebublicans? Easy. Peolsi Waters Frank Just for starts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #43 August 22, 2011 Quote Please name me three Democrats you consider as bad as those three Rebublicans? Waters. Conyers. Schumer. Can't say they're the worst 3 Democrats, but of the ones that I come across (including lectures by Waters), they're the ones I'd be embarrassed to have as candidates for President. Don't know yet if I rank Perry with the bimbo squad. But it does seem like he took Bush's play up Texas angle from 2000 and is overacting the part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #44 August 22, 2011 Quote>Some of us have no trouble understanding what she was saying without disecting every sentence . . . . . . unless, of course, it's Obama. Then he's wrong (and an idiot, and unfit to govern etc etc.) Fine, if you want to play that game, she said "Americans fear the rise of the Soviet Union" with Americans being plural. Therefore we only need to find 2 Americans who fear the rise of the Soviet Union to make her statement correct. If we continue to play yours and others in this threads, stupid game, the Americans could be Canadians or anyone from South America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #45 August 22, 2011 Ask Palin I'm sure she's nervous about it too.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #46 August 22, 2011 Quote Ask Palin I'm sure she's nervous about it too. Well, see, there you go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #47 August 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote>Some of us have no trouble understanding what she was saying without disecting every sentence . . . . . . unless, of course, it's Obama. Then he's wrong (and an idiot, and unfit to govern etc etc.) Fine, if you want to play that game, she said "Americans fear the rise of the Soviet Union" with Americans being plural. Therefore we only need to find 2 Americans who fear the rise of the Soviet Union to make her statement correct. If we continue to play yours and others in this threads, stupid game, the Americans could be Canadians or anyone from South America. Only 2 american's needed ? talk about reaching. So if I say Americans fear the earth is flat, and can provide you a couple Americans who think the earth is flat, my statement makes sense? And it's true, there are a lot of dumbshit Dems, we just don't run them for President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #48 August 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Some of us have no trouble understanding what she was saying without disecting every sentence . . . . . . unless, of course, it's Obama. Then he's wrong (and an idiot, and unfit to govern etc etc.) Fine, if you want to play that game, she said "Americans fear the rise of the Soviet Union" with Americans being plural. Therefore we only need to find 2 Americans who fear the rise of the Soviet Union to make her statement correct. If we continue to play yours and others in this threads, stupid game, the Americans could be Canadians or anyone from South America. Only 2 american's needed ? talk about reaching. So if I say Americans fear the earth is flat, and can provide you a couple Americans who think the earth is flat, my statement makes sense? And it's true, there are a lot of dumbshit Dems, we just don't run them for President. Talk about missing the entire point. I was responding to a claim someone was making that required parsing words to make something true. I was simply showing that you could make anything true by doing so, Thus my statement that since she said "Americans believe the Soviet Union is on the Rise" that it would only take 2 people who believe that to make it true. If fact, what she actually said was not that people feared the rise of the Soviet union, but that they feared the U.S. was in an unstoppable decline. Quote"What people recognize is that there's a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline. They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward," Did you read the link I posted to the LA Times discussion on this topic? I'm guessing not or you wouldn't want to bring it up again since you were the OP. and obviously it debunks yours and others attempts to portray her an uninformed. In fact, it shows how uninformed most who took a shot at her over her statement are. The Soviet Union is in fact on the rise. Surely not exactly like the old USSR, but in fact has partially reformed. That's an undisutable truth. Yes you do run them for President ie. George Wallace, Shirley Chisholm, Wilbur Mills, Henry "Scoop" Jackson, Carter, Dukakis, etc. BTW, you called them dumbshits, not me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #49 August 22, 2011 Yes, I did read your article, I would think you could do better than an article over 3 years old, but what the hell. There is no doubt that Putin and the Russian federation are a crazy bunch. They are however not the Soviet union, The Soviet union was dissolved in 1991. If Bachmann can't tell the difference between the Russian federation and the USSR, that's a problem. I agree with most on your list of Democrats you thought are stupid, I am not so partisan as to think my side is perfect. Why you would choose to defend the likes of Bachmann are baffling when you have someone like Huntsman or Paul on your side. I will continue posting the stupid things Bachmann will continue to spout during her campaign, you can't put a price on entertainment like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #50 August 22, 2011 Quote Yes, I did read your article, I would think you could do better than an article over 3 years old, but what the hell. There is no doubt that Putin and the Russian federation are a crazy bunch. They are however not the Soviet union, The Soviet union was dissolved in 1991. If Bachmann can't tell the difference between the Russian federation and the USSR, that's a problem. I agree with most on your list of Democrats you thought are stupid, I am not so partisan as to think my side is perfect. Why you would choose to defend the likes of Bachmann are baffling when you have someone like Huntsman or Paul on your side. I will continue posting the stupid things Bachmann will continue to spout during her campaign, you can't put a price on entertainment like this. Can you point out something in the article I posted that's no longer relevent? It will not be called the USSR for marketing puposes, but I get her point and I agree that Putin is trying to re-assemble the former Soviet States and will continue to do so. That was Bachmann's point. I will defend someone if I agree with them on a point. I have no intentions of voting for Bachmann. Paul isn't electable and Huntsman hasn't appealled to me so far, but I'm open-minded to both of them. Did you see my thread on Bachmann supporting killing Gays? I'm surprised you missed that one. I guess I "scooped" you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
