A revolution in 2012

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The US gets a much better lease rate, the host country gets improved land after they leave and the local economy gets a boost from hiring and purchases...win/win/win.

And the US taxpayer/US economy gets a stiff one up the ass.

How does America win out of all this? Would you care to explain?

It's the difference between, say, 1 million dollars a year for lease and 1000 a year for lease - can you handle the math on that, or should I do that for you, too?

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We cannot afford to pay for these 'defence sites'.

Given that you're using the British spelling of 'defense', I'm not at all sure that YOU are paying for it to begin with.

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How about we have these defence sites on our own soil.

We do.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Here is the clip!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline

Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

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That's a fair summation, but a lot depends on the site and how the agreements were set up for them.

Oh absolutely. That's, in general, why I spoke up regarding the number 900, because it's a political number. It's the type of number a politician throws around when saying "I want to close 300 of our 900 overseas military bases, with more to come!" to a bunch of cheers in the audience. Then you find out that it results in no personnel coming home, little or no annual upkeep being saved, and forfeiture of $10Bs of dollars of infrastructure to the host countries.

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Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

52 news items on Ron Paul from foxnews in the last week.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[kelpdiver 2]

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Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

52 news items on Ron Paul from foxnews in the last week.

watch the Jon Stewart clip and tell us Fox isn't hosing Paul.

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Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

52 news items on Ron Paul from foxnews in the last week.

watch the Jon Stewart clip and tell us Fox isn't hosing Paul.

Youtube is blocked, and I don't consider comedians to be news sources.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Youtube is blocked, and I don't consider comedians to be news sources.

1) It's not on youtube.
2) he's playing back the primary source, so it's lame to dodge because he's an entertainer.

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Frankly, he obliterates the objectivity of Fox and the GOP at the same level Colbert destroyed that Press breakfast at the White House.

Now how many of those 52 articles were actually focused on Ron Paul, and just didn't mention him in a list of candidates?

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Youtube is blocked, and I don't consider comedians to be news sources.

1) It's not on youtube.
2) he's playing back the primary source, so it's lame to dodge because he's an entertainer.

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Frankly, he obliterates the objectivity of Fox and the GOP at the same level Colbert destroyed that Press breakfast at the White House.

Now how many of those 52 articles were actually focused on Ron Paul, and just didn't mention him in a list of candidates?

Don't really care - he's hardly being locked out of any mention in the press, as was alleged. In point of fact, he was on Piers Morgan's show - given the popular myth that only the right wingers listen to Fox, you'd think Paul would be appreciative of the chance to hit a wider audience.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Youtube is blocked, and I don't consider comedians to be news sources.

1) It's not on youtube.
2) he's playing back the primary source, so it's lame to dodge because he's an entertainer.

[urlhttp://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier[/url]

Frankly, he obliterates the objectivity of Fox and the GOP at the same level Colbert destroyed that Press breakfast at the White House.

Now how many of those 52 articles were actually focused on Ron Paul, and just didn't mention him in a list of candidates?

I have spent some time trying to figure you out

So

thanks for this post

It helps a bunch

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>Youtube is blocked, and I don't consider comedians to be news sources.

Exactly. He's an actor; the only thing they're good for is comedy or high political office (if you're a republican, of course.)

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>Youtube is blocked, and I don't consider comedians to be news sources.

Exactly. He's an actor; the only thing they're good for is comedy or high political office (if you're a republican, of course.)

Still with the lame spin attempts, Bill?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[kelpdiver 2]

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I have spent some time trying to figure you out

Why?

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thanks for this post

It helps a bunch

Really? Would think you'd need a Jump to Conclusions Mat if this post was the magic one.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Don't really care - he's hardly being locked out of any mention in the press, as was alleged. In point of fact, he was on Piers Morgan's show - given the popular myth that only the right wingers listen to Fox, you'd think Paul would be appreciative of the chance to hit a wider audience.

If you get a chance at home, it's worth viewing, and not particularly long. And if it helps, no Republican gets harmed in the process.

Placing second should put this guy in the serious discussion, certainly more than a guy like Santorum warrants.

Why should you care? Despite Obama's weak term, he's still going to destroy losers like Bachman. The GOP needs more quality choices for its voters, not less, at least when we're still in the odd year of the cycle.

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Don't really care - he's hardly being locked out of any mention in the press, as was alleged. In point of fact, he was on Piers Morgan's show - given the popular myth that only the right wingers listen to Fox, you'd think Paul would be appreciative of the chance to hit a wider audience.

If you get a chance at home, it's worth viewing, and not particularly long. And if it helps, no Republican gets harmed in the process.

Placing second should put this guy in the serious discussion, certainly more than a guy like Santorum warrants.

If they replay it on AFN I'll try to catch it. I don't disagree that there *should* be more discussion, just the premise that it was only Fox that was locking him out.

The media ignore him because they want Bachmann to be the candidate - makes an easier target for them, as we've seen quite often over the last couple weeks even here...like directly below.

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Why should you care? Despite Obama's weak term, he's still going to destroy losers like Bachman. The GOP needs more quality choices for its voters, not less, at least when we're still in the odd year of the cycle.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Here is the clip!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline

Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

Wow, that was far more infuriating than funny.

Of course, this is

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new

for the Fox misinformation machine.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline


Here is the clip!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline

Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

Wow, that was far more infuriating than funny.

Of course, this is

nothing

new

for the Fox misinformation machine.

So how is it for the CNN misinformation machine?

How about the CBS one?

ABC?

NBC?

MSLSD... I mean MSNBC?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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The media ignore him because they want Bachmann to be the candidate - makes an easier target for them, as we've seen quite often over the last couple weeks even here...like directly below.

The media ignore Ron Paul because he is not BOUGHT and OWNED by the same sponsors that support those media networks.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline


Here is the clip!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline

Fox is shutting out Ron Paul.

Wow, that was far more infuriating than funny.

Of course, this is

nothing

new

for the Fox misinformation machine.

So how is it for the CNN misinformation machine?

How about the CBS one?

ABC?

NBC?

MSLSD... I mean MSNBC?

Find a way to watch the video that hwt posted and it will be quite apparent.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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Despite Obama's weak term, he's still going to destroy losers like Bachman.

I have a feeling that Rick Perry has already been chosen. Unless of course the GOP want to play the same game the Democrats have played in the past and select Bachman instead.

Ron Paul is not perfect, but he makes far too much sense for the GOP to ever select him. It's not just Fox News who have snubbed Ron Paul. It's pretty much every media outlet out there. One big 16 month long puppet show.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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I have a feeling that Rick Perry has already been chosen. Unless of course the GOP want to play the same game the Democrats have played in the past and select Bachman instead.

Perry does seem to be the darling of the moment.

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Ron Paul is not perfect, but he makes far too much sense for the GOP to ever select him.

He should run as an independent. He would, possibly, appeal to a broader spectrum. The "R" by his name hurts him.

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It's not just Fox News who have snubbed Ron Paul. It's pretty much every media outlet out there.

I've yet to see anything but snippets on Dr. Paul. Shame as he has so much that needs to be heard. I like that he does not resort to name calling as the others have done and will continue to do so. It's a mockery on the whole process.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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If they replay it on AFN I'll try to catch it. I don't disagree that there *should* be more discussion, just the premise that it was only Fox that was locking him out.

The media ignore him because they want Bachmann to be the candidate - makes an easier target for them, as we've seen quite often over the last couple weeks even here...like directly below.

Well, I think we should all be able to acknowledge that Fox is the GOP cheerleader, and they're still ignoring the guy who finished just out of first. As for the thought they're promoting Bachmann to damage the party, please. As Canuck points out (as well as Stewart in today's show), the media already moved onto non stop promotion of the new guy from Texas.

Part of the point of insignificant states (no offense, really) like Iowa being the starting point is that the candidates have the ability to meet a significant portion of the voters in person, rather than run a media campaign like we would get in California. It's much harder for the media to bias the voters there.

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I have a feeling that Rick Perry has already been chosen. Unless of course the GOP want to play the same game the Democrats have played in the past and select Bachman instead.

Well, he just declared, so of course he's getting a lot of attention. Romney and Palin aren't even involved yet, but will be soon enough. And the others will start biting at him as well. Just look at what's been done here.