hwt 0 #1 August 15, 2011 http://youtu.be/SQIXBMk1gYA The only candidate that means what he says . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #2 August 15, 2011 Ron Paul is not perfect. But he pretty much is the only one who makes sense in Washington these days. If the GOP reject him, they deserve to lose to the Nobel Peace Prize winning messiah superhero savior of the Universe. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #3 August 15, 2011 I've talked up Ron Paul for years. For years, I've heard the typical response that Paul is out of touch with reality. Those who say such, refuse the facts and stand entrenched within the status quo of the party they favor. Diehard republicans have wished for Dr. Paul to change sides. They fear he brings an imbalance to their party. They fear he is not onboard with their "values." They are right. He rocks the boat. Diehard democrats fear him because he is capable of bringing democrats over to the republican party (or to the center.) The party that use to espouse the values of liberalism now supports a doctrine of hate mongering. Ron Paul will restore the values that the republican party was founded on - equal rights, freedom from oppression. Without doubt, the tea party will distance themselves from him. Them evangelical right will distance themselves from him. The radical left will oppose him merely for him having an R next to his name. Any person within the vicinity to the center will come to love him. Dr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. He is the only man who can bring those values back. Don't vote for a party. Vote for the man. http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-reasons-why-ron-paul-should-be-a-democrat-2011-7 http://www.thelibertyunderground.net/2011/05/ron-paul-is-acting-more-like-democrat.html "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmcoco84 5 #4 August 15, 2011 QuoteWithout doubt, the tea party will distance themselves from him. What?! QuoteDr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. So then why would they distance themselves from him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jclalor 12 #5 August 15, 2011 Quote Nobel Peace Prize winning messiah superhero savior of the Universe. It really is getting old, don't you have any original thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #2 August 15, 2011 Ron Paul is not perfect. But he pretty much is the only one who makes sense in Washington these days. If the GOP reject him, they deserve to lose to the Nobel Peace Prize winning messiah superhero savior of the Universe. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #3 August 15, 2011 I've talked up Ron Paul for years. For years, I've heard the typical response that Paul is out of touch with reality. Those who say such, refuse the facts and stand entrenched within the status quo of the party they favor. Diehard republicans have wished for Dr. Paul to change sides. They fear he brings an imbalance to their party. They fear he is not onboard with their "values." They are right. He rocks the boat. Diehard democrats fear him because he is capable of bringing democrats over to the republican party (or to the center.) The party that use to espouse the values of liberalism now supports a doctrine of hate mongering. Ron Paul will restore the values that the republican party was founded on - equal rights, freedom from oppression. Without doubt, the tea party will distance themselves from him. Them evangelical right will distance themselves from him. The radical left will oppose him merely for him having an R next to his name. Any person within the vicinity to the center will come to love him. Dr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. He is the only man who can bring those values back. Don't vote for a party. Vote for the man. http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-reasons-why-ron-paul-should-be-a-democrat-2011-7 http://www.thelibertyunderground.net/2011/05/ron-paul-is-acting-more-like-democrat.html "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #4 August 15, 2011 QuoteWithout doubt, the tea party will distance themselves from him. What?! QuoteDr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. So then why would they distance themselves from him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #5 August 15, 2011 Quote Nobel Peace Prize winning messiah superhero savior of the Universe. It really is getting old, don't you have any original thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 August 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteDr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. So then why would they distance themselves from him? Because the Republican party only wraps itself in individual freedom; it doesn't actually promote it when it comes to their actions. Not that I'm a huge Ron Paul fan, but it's pretty clear to me he's far too much in favor of the common man and not corporations for the corporate elites of the Republican party to ever support him. His words about wars being trumped up to support the military industrial complex and it all being a gigantic scam perpetrated on America for the profit of a few companies which also makes us weaker in the world . . . doesn't exactly enchant the war monger class.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 August 15, 2011 QuoteIt really is getting old, don't you have any original thoughts? You really do get upset when people put down your idol don't you. The thoughts of censorship must be strong on your mind since things are not going your way are they. Face it, the guy was created by Hollywood. He had zero leadership experience. He may be the world's best teleprompter orator, but he is totally clueless when his teleprompter goes on the fritz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Z2Cnr6PSs Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 August 15, 2011 Remember they are pretty much ALL in it for the power.... "Anyone who wants to run a country should NEVER be allowed to!!" The job should be a chore NOT a dream!! (cus they generally turn out to be nightmares for most everyone else) (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #9 August 15, 2011 QuoteRon Paul is not perfect. But he pretty much is the only one who makes sense in Washington these days. If the GOP reject him, they deserve to lose to the Nobel Peace Prize winning messiah superhero savior of the Universe. /signedYou stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #10 August 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteWithout doubt, the tea party will distance themselves from him. What?! QuoteDr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. So then why would they distance themselves from him? because the tea party movement that I originally supported was co-opted by the extreme fringe right. They don't support individual freedoms as much as Ron Paul.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #11 August 15, 2011 >>Dr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. >So then why would they distance themselves from him? Because he opposes the wars that conservatives support. He is against most of their social causes - opposition to gay rights, restrictions on the rights of workers and opposition to legalization of marijuana. He is opposed to the war on drugs and the death penalty. He's against hospitals for veterans. (Can't you just hear O'Reilly now? "Ron Paul has a prescription for our heroic veterans - death!") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #12 August 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteWithout doubt, the tea party will distance themselves from him. What?! QuoteDr. Paul is closest to the values that founded this country. So then why would they distance themselves from him? He stands right on the line that separates the two prominent parties. Mind you, the original tea party movement was a mixture of republicans, democrats, libertarians, and anyone else who believes in a constitutional government. It, however, has been hijacked by the extreme right and has become a loop of sound bites used by the likes of Palin, Bachmann. and others who wish to push an extreme view agenda based on a personal agenda, rather than one directed by the constitution that founded this country. There are a few things that I do not like about Dr. Paul, however, I cannot argue against his stand that the only thing that should guide our country is the constitution and not special interest. That, I can stand for and agree to 100%. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/07/ron-paul-knocks-tea-party_n_415181.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 August 15, 2011 QuoteMind you, the original tea party movement was a mixture of republicans, democrats, libertarians, and anyone else who believes in a constitutional government. It, however, has been hijacked by the extreme right I'd say initially it was a movement for "none of the above" - tapping on people angry at the failure of our government. It wasn't for anything, it was against them. And yes, in that vacuum, the takeover occurred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #14 August 16, 2011 He's against hospitals for veterans. (Can't you just hear O'Reilly now? "Ron Paul has a prescription for our heroic veterans - death!") *** Well given the recent attack on our benefits do you consider a president who wishes to further diminish the payments for our service a good thing? I like a lot of what Ron Paul says, but every time he opens his mouth regrading the military and how he envisions it my stomach turns.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #15 August 16, 2011 >Well given the recent attack on our benefits do you consider a president who wishes to >further diminish the payments for our service a good thing? Exactly my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny-utah 0 #16 August 16, 2011 QuoteWell given the recent attack on our benefits do you consider a president who wishes to further diminish the payments for our service a good thing? I like a lot of what Ron Paul says, but every time he opens his mouth regrading the military and how he envisions it my stomach turns. I could say the same about what every other politician says about the occupations. I am interested to know which politician/party you will vote for. If you are being fed by America while over there, housed by America while over there, and all the money you earn must go into savings, why should you get what the rest of us are denied? Shouldn't it be easier for you to set up your future than someone at home. Talk about holding your hand out. You choose to be there, I choose to oppose everything that these wars stand for, yet I have to pay for you to be there. If you want benefits in the future because you attended the slaughter, I want benefits for paying for you to be there. I am here working to make our country grow (one step forward two steps back) while you and your IMC are sucking the life out of our country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #17 August 16, 2011 shame you couldn't post this under your real handle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny-utah 0 #18 August 16, 2011 What do you mean? You can read my name, I filled out the form. I am sick and tired of the bullshit emotional crap that gets used in this country to justify the slaughter of other nationalities and the slaughter of our rights. Killing people is killing people. Ron Paul is right, bring the troops home, defend our country face it we are broke and we cannot afford 900 offshore military bases, the war on drugs is a farce, and the war on terror is a farce. It is a pity every other politician is too under the thumb to speak the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #19 August 16, 2011 QuoteWell given the recent attack on our benefits do you consider a president who wishes to further diminish the payments for our service a good thing? Which recent attack are you talking about? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #20 August 16, 2011 Quote Well given the recent attack on our benefits do you consider a president who wishes to further diminish the payments for our service a good thing? Dr. Paul never advocated reducing payments to vets. In fact, he advocates the opposite. Dr. Ron Paul: I am actually a veteran myself, having served as a U.S. Air Force Flight Surgeon during the Vietnam-era. http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=78 As for the VA health system, he realizes that it is a system that is a drain and does not meet the needs of many vets. If you live far from the nearest VA hospital, it is a burden on the vet as well as the taxpayers. The vet must drive, possibly hundreds of miles to see a doctor. Often, I have had to drive to Little Rock, AR for treatment. From Mt. Vernon, MO. that is 250 miles one way. 500 mile round trip. The taxpayers foots the bill. They put me up in a hotel that cost over $100.00 per night. They pay over $300.00 for my gas. They pay for all of my meals. Why, when there is a civilian hospital that can do the job for less! Dr. Paul believes that we should be given a choice to be treated at a hospital of our choosing and by a doctor of our choice. As a vet, and as a person who has been mired down in the muck that the VA has become, I fully understand his position. As active military or veteran, Ron Paul just may be the only true friend you have in government. He stands on his principles and does so unwavering. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul142.html A vote against Dr. Paul is a vote against America and yourself. RON PAUL 2012"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #21 August 16, 2011 http://tv.yahoo.com/news/jon-stewart-ron-paul-where-love-161507902.html Ron Paul came in second place in the Iowa straw poll, just a few votes behind Bachmann. Yet the other Republicans are still trying to sideline him. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny-utah 0 #22 August 16, 2011 http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?fb_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline Here is the clip! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #23 August 16, 2011 Quote...and we cannot afford 900 offshore military bases... Not that I'm sure anyone here cares, but... The US doesn't have 900 overseas military bases. The US has about 900 overseas defense sites. If you knew what qualified as a "defense site" you'd be laughing at what you just said too. Most of these sites have no personnel associated with them and there are probably less than 100 locations that a reasonable person would look at and say, "that's a military base." That said, the US spends around $100B/yr of its budget on overseas facilities (not including Iraq or Afghanistan) and has several $100B tied up in land and improvements. Closing, selling off, and/or consolidating a lot of these sites (particularly the preponderance of sites in Germany and South Korea) has the potential to save a lot of money, and politically it's about as painless as it gets in terms of defense cuts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 August 16, 2011 That's a fair summation, but a lot depends on the site and how the agreements were set up for them. I know that at least some of the European sites were set up as 99 year leases with *very* low payments. Part of the agreement was that the host country gets the land back *with* any improvements that were made during the occupancy. The military also signs agreements to utilize local nationals for general labor and to buy local produce for the dining facilities. The US gets a much better lease rate, the host country gets improved land after they leave and the local economy gets a boost from hiring and purchases...win/win/win.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny-utah 0 #25 August 16, 2011 QuoteThe US gets a much better lease rate, the host country gets improved land after they leave and the local economy gets a boost from hiring and purchases...win/win/win. And the US taxpayer/US economy gets a stiff one up the ass. How does America win out of all this? Would you care to explain? We cannot afford to pay for these 'defence sites'. How about we have these defence sites on our own soil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
