masterblaster72 0 #76 August 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI repeat my question: who the fuck is Rick Perry? When that's the first question, the second is not "OMG, what if he gets elected President." Not gonna happen. He is the governor of Texas. A snowball has a better chance of surviving in a blast furnace, than Perry does being elected President. Never underestimate the stupidity of Americans when it comes to electing public servants. I don't put it beyond the American populace to elect a moron like Perry, Palin or Bachmann as President. Or Obama. Okay, I'll try to match your predictability: Or your ex-governor GW Bush. Sorry, I was just matching yours. Yawn. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #77 August 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI repeat my question: who the fuck is Rick Perry? When that's the first question, the second is not "OMG, what if he gets elected President." Not gonna happen. He is the governor of Texas. A snowball has a better chance of surviving in a blast furnace, than Perry does being elected President. Never underestimate the stupidity of Americans when it comes to electing public servants. I don't put it beyond the American populace to elect a moron like Perry, Palin or Bachmann as President. Or Obama. Okay, I'll try to match your predictability: Or your ex-governor GW Bush. Sorry, I was just matching yours. Yawn. That was my initial response, too.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #78 August 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI repeat my question: who the fuck is Rick Perry? When that's the first question, the second is not "OMG, what if he gets elected President." Not gonna happen. He is the governor of Texas. A snowball has a better chance of surviving in a blast furnace, than Perry does being elected President. Never underestimate the stupidity of Americans when it comes to electing public servants. I don't put it beyond the American populace to elect a moron like Perry, Palin or Bachmann as President. Or Obama. Okay, I'll try to match your predictability: Or your ex-governor GW Bush. Sorry, I was just matching yours. Yawn. That was my initial response, too. "I know you are but what am I" -- I left that shit back in the first grade. Not that there's anything wrong it still amusing you...again, and again, and... Anyhow, here's an article that I read earlier about Michelle Bachmann. Religious whacko, fabricator of her own history and background, "former tax attorney" that never showed up for work because she was abusing maternity leave, friends with redneck anti-black bigots. That she is even in the presidential discussion, let alone a front-runner, is a testament to the stupidity of the American electorate. Leap of Faith: The Making of a Presidential Front-Runner I'm no fan of Obama, but after eight years of epic failure from your ex-governer, I'll take another four years of him over this republican romper room any day. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #79 August 12, 2011 Quote"I know you are but what am I" -- I left that shit back in the first grade. Then why did you use it...twice? QuoteI'm no fan of Obama Oh, please... Quotebut after eight years of epic failure from your ex-governer, I'll take another four years of him over this republican romper room any day. Like most every election, it comes down to the lesser of two evils.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #80 August 12, 2011 Some may find this interesting. Perry's college transcript. http://www.scribd.com/doc/61684192/Rick-Perry-s-Texas-A-M-Transcript I would like to see Obama's."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #81 August 12, 2011 Huffpo is pulling out all the stops in the court of public opinion, aren't they?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #82 August 12, 2011 Quote Huffpo is pulling out all the stops in the court of public opinion, aren't they? You're kinda mixing up your metaphor there. You say that as if there's a legal court Perry should be getting tried in. He's running for office, public opinion is kinda the only thing that matters.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #83 August 12, 2011 Quote Quote Huffpo is pulling out all the stops in the court of public opinion, aren't they? You're kinda mixing up your metaphor there. You say that as if there's a legal court Perry should be getting tried in. It's not exactly unused in other venues, Paul.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #84 August 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Huffpo is pulling out all the stops in the court of public opinion, aren't they? You're kinda mixing up your metaphor there. You say that as if there's a legal court Perry should be getting tried in. It's not exactly unused in other venues, Paul. But pretty much always with respect to the person being "tried" via the media as opposed to in court or congress or some other official proceeding. The ONLY thing that matters in the election IS public opinion. That is it. There IS no other "court." You don't have to take my word for it; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_public_opinionquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #85 August 12, 2011 QuoteHuffpo is pulling out all the stops in the court of public opinion, aren't they? I'm sure they would show Obama's if they could get their hands on it. Hell, I'd like to see it. Personally, I think the voters should have access to any records concerning any person running for the highest office. Perry is to announce his bid to run for President on Saturday. I suspect no stone will go unturned."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #86 August 12, 2011 Quote I have a very lovely collection of DVDs at home. In 20 years, do you think any of them will be viewable at all? All of them will be, without a doubt. There is a common false argument being made that because we can read a lot of media from the 70s, when this was emerging technology, that a similar fate awaits us now. My oldest CDs come from 1989, 22 years ago. My oldest DVD comes from 1998, 13 years ago. My oldest blu-ray is from 2006, only 5 years ago. But the interesting bit about all of them? They're all 5 inch discs, and all are readable on a current blu-ray player. This isn't by accident. Rather than go to smaller discs, ones more easily lost, they've been increasing the data density. At some point they may move onto a new form factor, but you'll have plenty of time to migrate the data, or continue to buy new players. VCRs are still available and they've been irrelevant for over a decade. The biggest concern with these discs has been "cd rot," though I have yet to see it. Wouldn't matter anyway - I made high bitrate mp3s out of all of them. Though they are not "archival" quality copies, to the extent it matters the backups would do just fine. I don't actually use the discs anymore, I stream the mp3s over the home network. DVDs are simple mpeg2 videos. They're easily copied to hard drives using software that is easily obtained, if not sanctioned by the powers that be. Same with Blu-ray. Digital cameras are a huge step forward from film - unlike negatives and prints, it doesn't decay. If your print starts fading, you print another. Picture formats are quite safe- very easy to convert about. The progress we'll see going forward will be about the size of the cameras, or the resolution they can do, or most importantly to me, the dynamic range they can capture. Digital data is easy to maintain. Worried about bit flips - maintain two copies. And the amazing bit - you can always print out that PDF book if you really thought they would vanish. (And then use OCR to redigitize it) But the only way that's going to happen is if the Earth ends as we know it. In recent years we've regained mediums we thought were gone forever. Do you want to play Atari 2600 games from the 70s? It's now an option through emulation. Just about every classic gaming system is so available. So long as there is an interest in it, it will always live on. Coming back to the start - books cannot be unpublished. Using an electronic format isn't going to change that. Repressive regimes have long shown their ability to put down their people with violence, but their track record fighting the internet shows little but failure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #87 August 12, 2011 QuotePersonally, I think the voters should have access to any records concerning any person running for the highest office. I can't agree to that. They should be required to present anything that is required by the US Constitution, but other than that, no. "They" run for public office and anything they do that affects their job and is required by law, sure. Beyond that, no. If we can't respect the legal privacy of others, then why should we expect our legal privacy to be respected?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #88 August 12, 2011 QuoteRepressive regimes have long shown their ability to put down their people with violence, but their track record fighting the internet shows little but failure. You should visit North Korea. Send me an email when you get there.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #89 August 12, 2011 QuoteI can't agree to that. They should be required to present anything that is required by the US Constitution, but other than that, no. "They" run for public office and anything they do that affects their job and is required by law, sure. Beyond that, no. I should restate as any records such as birth, school transcripts, police... pretty much what an employer would seek during a background check should be available to the voters, as the voter are the employer of the President."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,135 #90 August 12, 2011 QuoteQuote I have a very lovely collection of DVDs at home. In 20 years, do you think any of them will be viewable at all? All of them will be, without a doubt. I still have a player for vinyl phonograph records (45 and 33rpm) and a cassette player at home. I'm sure I can find a player somewhere for my reel to reel tapes and I know we have a wire recorder in our school archives that, I believe, still works.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #91 August 12, 2011 Quote Rick Perry is dangerous simply because some of his followers believe, as he certainly has indicated himself by throwing this little prayer meeting, government should be ruled according to religious rules rather than the US Constitution. I don't think so. That would be political suicide, especially at the presidential level.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #92 August 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Rick Perry is dangerous simply because some of his followers believe, as he certainly has indicated himself by throwing this little prayer meeting, government should be ruled according to religious rules rather than the US Constitution. Twaddle - show me where he's said that religion should run gov't. You're espousing what you WANT to believe about him, not what there is evidence of him believing. Well, no evidence unless you count the 30,000 people he got to show up to pray for government. I'm fairly certain that if a Muslim did that, people would be rioting in the streets. It seem to me you fear people of faith, I might be wrong, just an observation. Million Man March which occurred on the Mall in Washington DC was organized by Dr. Benjamin Chavis amoung many othe chapters of the NAACP and the National African American Leadership Summit. The Keynote Address was delievered by a Muslim Man "Louis Farrakhan" The march was followed by another event, "Stand in the Gap" a Promise Keeper event attended by an equal number of men of All Races. They two had a Keynote speaker who was a Christian. If my memory serves me well, and it does...I'm fairly certain there was no rioting in the streets by either group. Well in the case of Muslim no rioting...maybe christian attending in such a mass might be consider a riot by some. So take a deep breath, all is well, nothing is going to happen to you. I'm sure your just as free today as you will be in the future to continue doing as you see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #93 August 12, 2011 Quote QuoteI'm no fan of Obama Oh, please... I've long been a supporter of a Republican from Texas -- Ron Paul. Unfortunately, your party is far too bought and owned to give him serious attention. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #94 August 12, 2011 QuoteIt seem to me you fear people of faith, I might be wrong, just an observation. I have a deep seated hatred for anyone who uses the faith of other people for their own selfish gains through manipulation of the masses. Think about it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #95 August 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteIt seem to me you fear people of faith, I might be wrong, just an observation. I have a deep seated hatred for anyone who uses the faith of other people for their own selfish gains through manipulation of the masses. Think about it. Perry will do whatever it takes to achieve his goals and fatten his wallet. His 'super' highway plan for truck traffic from Mexico into the Midland and Dallas areas just to bring more Chinese crap to the Dollar General stores. Folks in 'small town' West Texas fought it. While the public meetings were held, work on these 'super' highways continued while they were supposed to have been stopped. The small towns out here did not want the heavy truck traffic rolling night and day through their small towns. Meanwhile, Mexico was not holding-up their end of the deal. I just get the impression from all that and other things, Perry is bought-off by big business and doesn't care one bit about the people of Texas. I feel too, his under-handed tactics will continue if, he is elected President. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #96 August 12, 2011 Perry has made NAFTA one of his pet projects. He has benefited personally by receiving donations from a foreign company. What is worst, the company that would had built the road would own the road (and the land.) Perry is in the same foot steps of Bush 1 and Bush 2. I cannot, to this day, understand why Clinton signed NAFTA into law. NAFTA should be brought to an end to save American jobs, stop the land-grab, and to deny Mexican truckers access to what is the livelihood of American truckers. What may sound good on the surface is only that-surface. It's like calm water. If you want to know what is really going on, you need to break the surface to see what is going on below. All the more reason to vote for Ron Paul. http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/NAFTA_History.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2762633/posts"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #97 August 12, 2011 So do the Christians here want Perry to run to get their vote? Or are there others in the race you like better? Does this eliminate Romney because he is a Mormon? Just curious? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #98 August 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteI can't agree to that. They should be required to present anything that is required by the US Constitution, but other than that, no. "They" run for public office and anything they do that affects their job and is required by law, sure. Beyond that, no. I should restate as any records such as birth, school transcripts, police... pretty much what an employer would seek during a background check should be available to the voters, as the voter are the employer of the President. I can't even agree to this because there are some things employers seek during background checks that are illegal invasions of privacy. Let's just stick to what is legally required by the US Constitution. It is, after all, the law of the land.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #99 August 12, 2011 Because of the long lines at the border crossings, every Mexican truck cannot be inspected before crossing into the U.S. We have much higher requirements for trucks than does Mexico. Also, it makes it easier for dope runners to hide dope in truck loads coming fromMexico. Perry has made trips to Mexico and Canada to meet with leaders there to promote NAFTA. These trips were kept quiet. Why? I agree with you... Clinton should never have signed the NAFTA Agreement. Chuck Also, since the fire at the Texas Governor's mansion, Perry has been staying at a luxury apartment and has been milking the tax payers for all it's worth. Purchasing highly expensive furniture and acoutrements and etc. The guy is strictly out for himself and that's the bottom line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #100 August 12, 2011 QuoteI should restate as any records such as birth, school transcripts, police... pretty much what an employer would seek during a background check should be available to the voters, as the voter are the employer of the President. Qualifications for the Office of President Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States. Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951 No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
