mnealtx 0 #201 August 16, 2011 Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #202 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote *....no idea what Octoberfest about ...* ?? Where did I say that? Your wording, my dear. Your own words: "Never been there, so sorry, cannot give you any more info about it. Just use the internet. " Say, are you from New Berlin, Texas? I have my *own idea* about Oktoberfest, even I've never been there. Playing the well-known SC game her? Twisting words? Go, play with someone else. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #203 August 16, 2011 Quote Playing the well-known SC game her? Twisting words? Go, play with someone else. Oh, the irony of this coming from you. You love to dish it out, but can't take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #204 August 16, 2011 QuoteYou don't see any problems with jailing people for saying unpopular things, having unpopular beliefs? Freedom of Speech has never prevented the US government from "jailing" people they don't like. Your history (post Constitution) has enough examples. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #205 August 16, 2011 QuoteQuote well, a holocaust-denier is clearly delusional, or are you denying the holocaust has happened!? if not, no worry.. You don't see any problems with jailing people for saying unpopular things, having unpopular beliefs? Quote for the wacko-scientology, mhm, since this "cult" runs its own secret-service, i can clearly see how it is conflicting with say "integrity of the state"; or would like to have an operating al-quaeda cell in your neighbourhood!? This is the sort of nonsense that got us stuck with the Patriot Act. But even that turkey isn't as bad as what we see here. Scientology hasn't threatened the integrity of America and it has a bunch of money (Hollywood) behind it. Locally I know a guy who contributes greatly to the community in the form of skill clinics for motorcyclists, and in the sport of diving. I think he's just a talented man, but he would attribute his success to Scientology. We have many organizations/cults/religions that take people's money and in return "somehow make them more successful." People have free will to do this - core principle of freedom. i see a problem with people spreading LIES; for their own good. and i definitly wouldnt want a "shadow CIA" to snoop on me or my (in their eyes) unpopular beliefs.. since u're an atheist as well, shouldnt you be highly suspicious to any form of religion fondling with government-issues!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #206 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. can't be a racist, like a nazi skinhead or a Holocaust denier. Many argue this isn't a loss, but I prefer a less ambiguous freedom of speech. on religion (from Wiki "Scientology in Germany") "Scientologists in Germany face specific political and economic restrictions. They are barred from membership in major political parties and employers use so-called "sect filters" to expose a job applicant's association with the organization. German federal and state interior ministers started a process aimed at banning Scientology in late 2007, but abandoned the initiative a year later, finding insufficient legal grounds. Despite this, polls suggest that most Germans favour banning Scientology altogether." It may be a wacko cult, but as an atheist I'm highly suspicious when the majority declares a minority religion as a cult, or worse, discriminates against those associated with it. You could not think of something better? Scientology? How lame. Our protection of the constitution is observing that club. I agree with that. Anything else? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #207 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #208 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. So, then you asign the fuck nugget label?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #209 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. Right, so you're agreeing with what I said. Quote and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. And yet we see it MUCH more from you....wonder why that is?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #210 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. So, then you assign the fuck nugget label? nope, but you just prove my point! EDUMUCATION!!! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #211 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. So, then you assign the fuck nugget label? nope, but you just prove my point! EDUMUCATION!!! No, I think YOU just proved Mikes point!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #212 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. Right, so you're agreeing with what I said. Quote and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. And yet we see it MUCH more from you....wonder why that is? WHAT do you see from me!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #213 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. So, only the people *you* think are ok should be able to speak? nope, only the fuck-nuggets should refrain.. and to end the circle, un-educated people will believe any plate of shit you serve them. as a US-citizen, you're more likely to fall for that trap.. So, then you assign the fuck nugget label? nope, but you just prove my point! EDUMUCATION!!! No, I think YOU just proved Mikes point! EDUMUCATION, my friend, EDUMUCATION!!! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #214 August 16, 2011 Quote You could not think of something better? Scientology? How lame. Our protection of the constitution is observing that club. I agree with that. Anything else? Didn't really need anything else - was just addressing your latest packet of hate lies. "It's not first time you mention Oktoberfest *as an argument*, seems to be the only little thing you know about Germany. " Now we could move on to the Texas bit - I think I've flown through their airports 2 or 3 times in the past decade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #215 August 16, 2011 Quote What is most striking to me about the London riots is people have no way to defend their property or livelihoods. The cops are just taking pictures... Incredible. _________________________________ You are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #216 August 16, 2011 Holy shi*t - what's your problem? Never in all my posts I said I hate the US, its folks, the posters here - Jesus, guy, if you need drama, go home and seek it in your own back yard. Constipation. That comes to mind reading your posts. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #217 August 16, 2011 QuoteHoly shi*t - what's your problem? what's your's? You started the shit storm. Like I said - you like dishing it out, but you can't take the return fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #218 August 16, 2011 still waiting.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #219 August 16, 2011 Quote still waiting.. What for? Some good German chocolat? Did I miss something? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #220 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote still waiting.. What for? Some good German chocolat? Did I miss something? mein telefon langweilt sich.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #221 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote still waiting.. What for? Some good German chocolat? Did I miss something? mein telefon langweilt sich.. Schatzeli, die Kinder gehen doch immmmmer vor ... Und dann kommt morgen früh die Arbeit, weischt ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #222 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote still waiting.. What for? Some good German chocolat? Did I miss something? mein telefon langweilt sich.. Schatzeli, die Kinder gehen doch immmmmer vor ... Und dann kommt morgen früh die Arbeit, weischt ... du hast es mir VERSPROCHEN; HOCH UND HEILLIG SOGAR!!!!! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #223 August 16, 2011 Quote And yet we see it MUCH more from you....wonder why that is? Quote WHAT do you see from me!? Never thought I would compliment you but, scheisskopf comes to mind. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #224 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote And yet we see it MUCH more from you....wonder why that is? Quote WHAT do you see from me!? Never thought I would compliment you but, scheisskopf comes to mind. your lack of knowledge has sometimes (not) surprised me, but hey, points for you, you know how to spell "shithead"; i'm impressed! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #225 August 16, 2011 QuoteYou are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... You really need to look up your statistics before you fabricate and post them. Here, I did it for you: The July 2011 unemployment rate in the UK is 7.7%. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate The July 2011 unemployment rate in the United States is 9.1%, down from 9.2% the previous month. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate You were saying? You seem to bark out "socialism!!" a lot, much the way the dog barks at the mailman. Slogans and sound bytes are a weak substitute for cogent argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites