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having a gun pulled on you also happens mostly in 3rd world countries, and the US - oh wait..

Yes, I get guns pulled on me all the time... but I draw just a little bit faster.

Plus, we have two oceans, What do you have?

water we can drink from the tab? four official languages? the alps? health care? and about a gazillion lakes and rivers you can actually SWIM in.. who the fuck needs an ocean!?

Also fantastic chocolate (unlike the crap you get in the USA), real cheese, Banks that don't charge for ATM use, Fresh clean air, Wold famous quality watches, Culture. Some of the best education in the world.

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having a gun pulled on you also happens mostly in 3rd world countries, and the US - oh wait..

Yes, I get guns pulled on me all the time... but I draw just a little bit faster.

Plus, we have two oceans, What do you have?

water we can drink from the tab? four official languages? the alps? health care? and about a gazillion lakes and rivers you can actually SWIM in.. who the fuck needs an ocean!?

Also fantastic chocolate (unlike the crap you get in the USA), real cheese, Banks that don't charge for ATM use, Fresh clean air, Wold famous quality watches, Culture. Some of the best education in the world.

i didnt want to sensory overload the guy..
he's american; it's very likely he'll only speak english. what does he need education for anyway..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[kelpdiver 2]

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water we can drink from the tab? four official languages? the alps? health care? and about a gazillion lakes and rivers you can actually SWIM in.. who the fuck needs an ocean!?

I drink water from the tap - comes straight from Yosemite. Fucking cold lakes don't count, man. Let's see you surf in that 5 degree snow fed lake. I have more class IV-V rafting options as well. And who cares if the language is official or not- got many more of them being spoken within 3 miles of my house.

And for Skyrad, we have an abundant number of high end chocolate makers here.

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some people around here are so fucked up, i think only a shot through their head could heal their mental problems..

Uh ok.

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Your one warning. Cut it out.

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Also fantastic chocolate (unlike the crap you get in the USA), real cheese, Banks that don't charge for ATM use, Fresh clean air, Wold famous quality watches, Culture. Some of the best education in the world.

I have to agree with all of that but really now, I don't know where your head is at. I would have put beautiful women at the top of the list.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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water we can drink from the tab? four official languages? the alps? health care? and about a gazillion lakes and rivers you can actually SWIM in.. who the fuck needs an ocean!?

I drink water from the tap - comes straight from Yosemite. Fucking cold lakes don't count, man. Let's see you surf in that 5 degree snow fed lake. I have more class IV-V rafting options as well. And who cares if the language is official or not- got many more of them being spoken within 3 miles of my house.

And for Skyrad, we have an abundant number of high end chocolate makers here.

You're arguing with people who live in countries the size of New Jersey and have inferiority complexes the size of Saturn.

Just poke at them, laugh and move on.

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You're arguing with people who live in countries the size of New Jersey and have inferiority complexes the size of Saturn.

Just poke at them, laugh and move on.

Let me tell you: Size does NOT always matter

It's all about quality

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[kelpdiver 2]

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Let me tell you: Size does NOT always matter

It's all about quality

octoberfest seems to be about a lot of QUANTITY. Fortunately, coupled with some quality too.

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And for Skyrad, we have an abundant number of high end chocolate makers here.

Really? You mean niche specialists? Generally the chocolate I've tasted in the US is rubbish (Not trying to be offensive it just tastes awful).

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Also fantastic chocolate (unlike the crap you get in the USA), real cheese, Banks that don't charge for ATM use, Fresh clean air, Wold famous quality watches, Culture. Some of the best education in the world.

I have to agree with all of that but really now, I don't know where your head is at. I would have put beautiful women at the top of the list.

I almost did but the truth be told there are plenty of beautiful women in the USA as well.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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And for Skyrad, we have an abundant number of high end chocolate makers here.

Really? You mean niche specialists? Generally the chocolate I've tasted in the US is rubbish (Not trying to be offensive it just tastes awful).

well, it's a mix of rubbish and "not what I'm used to." Like when we go to England and eat a steak.

Garadelli and Scharfenburger are much larger than niche players, but it is a bit fashionable to make artisan chocolate around here as well, with TCHO being the more recent to grow from tiny to mid sized.

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=chocolate+factory+tours&find_loc=San+Francisco%2C+CA

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Let me tell you: Size does NOT always matter

It's all about quality

octoberfest seems to be about a lot of QUANTITY. Fortunately, coupled with some quality too.

Never been there, so sorry, cannot give you any more info about it. Just use the internet.

It's not first time you mention Oktoberfest *as an argument*, seems to be the only little thing you know about Germany.

Boy, you really should broaden your horizon a bit more and learn something new about the world outside your borders ... Oh wait, I used to reply this to JR ....

BTW: You're from Texas?

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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Let me tell you: Size does NOT always matter

It's all about quality

octoberfest seems to be about a lot of QUANTITY. Fortunately, coupled with some quality too.

Never been there, so sorry, cannot give you any more info about it. Just use the internet.

It's not first time you mention Oktoberfest *as an argument*, seems to be the only little thing you know about Germany.

Boy, you really should broaden your horizon a bit more and learn something new about the world outside your borders ... Oh wait, I used to reply this to JR ....

BTW: You're from Texas?

So, you're telling someone that knows more about Oktoberfest than you do to 'broaden their horizon and learn'?

Irony meter...pegged.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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So, you're telling someone that knows more about Oktoberfest than you do to 'broaden their horizon and learn'?
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What does he know, Mikey?

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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So, you're telling someone that knows more about Oktoberfest than you do to 'broaden their horizon and learn'?
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What does he know, Mikey?

Evidently more than you, since you had to tell him to use the internet to find out.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Let me tell you: Size does NOT always matter

It's all about quality

octoberfest seems to be about a lot of QUANTITY. Fortunately, coupled with some quality too.

Never been there, so sorry, cannot give you any more info about it. Just use the internet.

It's not first time you mention Oktoberfest *as an argument*, seems to be the only little thing you know about Germany.

Boy, you really should broaden your horizon a bit more and learn something new about the world outside your borders ... Oh wait, I used to reply this to JR ....

BTW: You're from Texas?

this is pretty funny stuff. You wanted to talk about quantity, and it is getting late into August. But honestly, I think you're lying if you claim you have no idea what Octoberfest about, or have never been at a beer garden during that time. We have it here, 6000 miles west of Germany. I know Berlin has it on a much larger scale.

The last time we talked about range of travel, I recall you had no answer after I presented my travelogue. This past 6 months I have logged ~38000 miles and 3 continents aside from my own.

We also talked many times about the limited freedom of speech and religion in your nation.

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Let me tell you: Size does NOT always matter

It's all about quality

octoberfest seems to be about a lot of QUANTITY. Fortunately, coupled with some quality too.

Never been there, so sorry, cannot give you any more info about it. Just use the internet.

It's not first time you mention Oktoberfest *as an argument*, seems to be the only little thing you know about Germany.

Boy, you really should broaden your horizon a bit more and learn something new about the world outside your borders ... Oh wait, I used to reply this to JR ....

BTW: You're from Texas?

this is pretty funny stuff. You wanted to talk about quantity, and it is getting late into August. But honestly, I think you're lying if you claim you have no idea what Octoberfest about, or have never been at a beer garden during that time. We have it here, 6000 miles west of Germany. I know Berlin has it on a much larger scale.

The last time we talked about range of travel, I recall you had no answer after I presented my travelogue. This past 6 months I have logged ~38000 miles and 3 continents aside from my own.

We also talked many times about the limited freedom of speech and religion in your nation.

1st: A giant WHOOOOSH to you - regarding quality/quantity/size.

2nd: No, I've never been to Oktoberfest and we were not talking about *beer gardens* in general. That's a difference.

*....no idea what Octoberfest about ...* ?? Where did I say that? Your wording, my dear.

Oktoberfest: I know as much as you and everyone else watching TV (OK, not everyone's watching our local channels but, ...), using the internet etc. ...

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You wanted to talk about quantity, and it is getting late into August.

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- I wanted to talk about what?

- I have a calender at home, another one in my office, lots of date displays on laptop, TV etc. So what?

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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*....no idea what Octoberfest about ...* ?? Where did I say that? Your wording, my dear.

Your own words: "Never been there, so sorry, cannot give you any more info about it. Just use the internet. "

Say, are you from New Berlin, Texas?

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We also talked many times about the limited freedom of speech and religion in your nation.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

i'd like to see that discussion..

dude, if you havent noticed, the nazis are out by soon to be 70yrs..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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dude, if you havent noticed, the nazis are out by soon to be 70yrs..

this has little to do with Nazis, though perversely their lack of freedom is based on the fear of something happening again.

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so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!?
maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!?
maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states..

can't be a racist, like a nazi skinhead or a Holocaust denier. Many argue this isn't a loss, but I prefer a less ambiguous freedom of speech.

on religion (from Wiki "Scientology in Germany")
"Scientologists in Germany face specific political and economic restrictions. They are barred from membership in major political parties and employers use so-called "sect filters" to expose a job applicant's association with the organization. German federal and state interior ministers started a process aimed at banning Scientology in late 2007, but abandoned the initiative a year later, finding insufficient legal grounds. Despite this, polls suggest that most Germans favour banning Scientology altogether."

It may be a wacko cult, but as an atheist I'm highly suspicious when the majority declares a minority religion as a cult, or worse, discriminates against those associated with it.

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so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!?
maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states..

can't be a racist, like a nazi skinhead or a Holocaust denier. Many argue this isn't a loss, but I prefer a less ambiguous freedom of speech.

on religion (from Wiki "Scientology in Germany")
"Scientologists in Germany face specific political and economic restrictions. They are barred from membership in major political parties and employers use so-called "sect filters" to expose a job applicant's association with the organization. German federal and state interior ministers started a process aimed at banning Scientology in late 2007, but abandoned the initiative a year later, finding insufficient legal grounds. Despite this, polls suggest that most Germans favour banning Scientology altogether."

It may be a wacko cult, but as an atheist I'm highly suspicious when the majority declares a minority religion as a cult, or worse, discriminates against those associated with it.

well, a holocaust-denier is clearly delusional, or are you denying the holocaust has happened!? if not, no worry..

for the wacko-scientology, mhm, since this "cult" runs its own secret-service, i can clearly see how it is conflicting with say "integrity of the state"; or would like to have an operating al-quaeda cell in your neighbourhood!?

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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well, a holocaust-denier is clearly delusional, or are you denying the holocaust has happened!? if not, no worry..

You don't see any problems with jailing people for saying unpopular things, having unpopular beliefs?

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for the wacko-scientology, mhm, since this "cult" runs its own secret-service, i can clearly see how it is conflicting with say "integrity of the state"; or would like to have an operating al-quaeda cell in your neighbourhood!?

This is the sort of nonsense that got us stuck with the Patriot Act. But even that turkey isn't as bad as what we see here. Scientology hasn't threatened the integrity of America and it has a bunch of money (Hollywood) behind it. Locally I know a guy who contributes greatly to the community in the form of skill clinics for motorcyclists, and in the sport of diving. I think he's just a talented man, but he would attribute his success to Scientology. We have many organizations/cults/religions that take people's money and in return "somehow make them more successful." People have free will to do this - core principle of freedom.