rehmwa 2 #76 November 22, 2011 Quotepoliticians are already lobbying on the TV this a.m. early to stop the cuts before they even go into effect. especially the DoD Obama said "No" and he will veto any chance to do that...... good for him - must be an election year and he's pandering to the fiscal right finally. Worked for Clinton. too bad he owns a big piece of this mess by not even ever issuing a real budget of his own - or even a plan that didn't include a TON of spending/stimupork ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #77 November 22, 2011 true, he will ultimately take the fall for all of it, even though it is Congress' failure to act. As I predict, a Republican majority for the next 8 years, and we are fucking doomed. The taxes will be cut, helping no one, the spending will be out of control and we will have a $20T debt and economic collapse. unemployment will be 15% and they will blame Obama while they continue spending. Vote for Ralph or Paul, one or the other if you want anything to change. and toss out the old guard - every fucking one of them, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #78 November 22, 2011 Quotetrue, he will ultimately take the fall for all of it, even though it is Congress' failure to act. Well, he's out either next year or in 5 years no matter what, so it's not really a 'fall', just political blame game - but he owns his part and should take heat rather than divert like he's trying to now As I predict, a Republican majority for the next 8 years, and we are fucking doomed. The taxes will be cut, helping no one, the spending will be out of control and we will have a $20T debt and economic collapse. unemployment will be 15% and they will blame Obama while they continue spending.and the only difference with a Dem majority is they'll raise taxes, spend even more than the extra they took in, and have a bigger debt and a faster and more severe collapse - as is already happening Vote for Ralph or Paul, one or the other if you want anything to change. and toss out the old guard - every fucking one of themand one person, even a president won't matter a bit - agree, we have to completely revamp congress AND the presidency to only fiscal responsibility and a 'mind your own business' social philosophy - good luck with that in ANY party. (Nader would destroy us even faster than the current crowd), ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #79 November 22, 2011 QuoteObama has had social security and medicare cuts on the table since last summer. QuoteGot a bill number for that? Why would you expect to see a bill for it? 'On the table' means he'll offer it as part of a greater proposal. When and if the opposition party agreed to general terms, then a bill comprising all the parts would be created. There's not going to be 4 little bills for each of the parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #80 November 22, 2011 >But blaming the R's is dishonest . . . Just as dishonest as blaming the D's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #81 November 22, 2011 Quote>But blaming the R's is dishonest . . . Just as dishonest as blaming the D's. Or "liberals"... BUt But But But But But.... thats different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #82 January 5, 2012 QuoteQuote>But blaming the R's is dishonest . . . Just as dishonest as blaming the D's. Or "liberals"... BUt But But But But But.... thats different Everyone knows it is the R's fault ... no the D's..... or maybe the libs........... the right wing evangelicals? No wait I know..... it is the super rich CEO's fault. Seriously though we all really know it was GWB's fault don't we? Our system is screwed up that's the reality but it is still better than any other country imo. RobLife is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #83 January 5, 2012 QuoteEveryone knows it is the R's fault ... no the D's..... or maybe the libs........... the right wing evangelicals? No wait I know..... it is the super rich CEO's fault. Seriously though we all really know it was GWB's fault don't we? Our system is screwed up that's the reality but it is still better than any other country imo. I like to keep it simple - "it's the [insert your favorite scapegoat here]'s fault" scapegoat can be any demographic that is not you ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #84 January 5, 2012 Quote Quote Everyone knows it is the R's fault ... no the D's..... or maybe the libs........... the right wing evangelicals? No wait I know..... it is the super rich CEO's fault. Seriously though we all really know it was GWB's fault don't we? Our system is screwed up that's the reality but it is still better than any other country imo. I like to keep it simple - "it's the [insert your favorite scapegoat here]'s fault" scapegoat can be any demographic that is not you I blame Bill Von clearly his fault.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #85 January 5, 2012 QuoteThe resilience of this market is surprising me. We've the EU hanging on by a thread. Greece is voting on their austerity plans this month. Italy is looking worse as their bonds push over a 7% yield. still waiting on the holiday sales numbers, but Sears has already announced store closings with weak sales. S&P has been nearly flat all week. Perhaps that's due to one sector gains offsetting another's decline? It is holding quite well but there are a lot of bad reasons why it is doing so......Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites