The Beast Is Starved: Welcome to the Next Great Depression

[dreamdancer 0]

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The money simply isn't there.

sure it is - when 1% of the population own 40% of the nation's wealth...

Do you even know the difference between "wealth" and "income?" If so, then you seem to be advocating the siezure of the assets of US citizens. It would take more than that to surprise me at this point.

no, i'm advocating a hefty inheritance tax...

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[winsor 236]

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The money simply isn't there.

sure it is - when 1% of the population own 40% of the nation's wealth...

Do you even know the difference between "wealth" and "income?" If so, then you seem to be advocating the siezure of the assets of US citizens. It would take more than that to surprise me at this point.

If that is the True Way, Cuba is well ahead of us. The last time I recall anyone seeking to emigrate to that Tropical Socialist Workers Paradise, however, was when it was the destination of choice for political hijackings.

Maybe our greatest proponent of Wealth Redistribution could see fit to go there and report back at what an overwhelming success the place is.


BSBD,

Winsor

[captain_stan 0]

Different terminology for the same thing. Good luck with that. Remember though that the reason some people have greater assets than you is because they are smarter than you. Still, you can be comforted by the fact that even stupid people have the right to be greedy.

[dreamdancer 0]

if you like somalia so much - perhaps you should just move there and quit bothering us?

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Different terminology for the same thing. Good luck with that. Remember though that the reason some people have greater assets than you is because they are smarter than you. Still, you can be comforted by the fact that even stupid people have the right to be greedy.

an inheritance tax is a tried and tested democratic form of wealth distribution. it's even pro-capitalist as it fosters a meritocratic society
as for stupid people - you have every right to talk on their behalf...

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[winsor 236]

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if you like somalia so much - perhaps you should just move there and quit bothering us?

Either you are easily confused or responding to someone else - real or imagined.

Discussions with a bot are pointless.

[dreamdancer 0]

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Discussions with a bot are pointless.

you still chuntering away to yourself...

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[captain_stan 0]

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an inheritance tax is a tried and tested democratic form of wealth distribution.

Then all you need to do is convince the majority of the voters to make it a democtratic reality. Again, good luck with that--you're making a weak case to a tough audience.

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as for stupid people - you have every right to talk on their behalf...

Sure, my IQ is certainly up for debate. But at least I hope it's clear that I'm not hatefull towards those who are more affluent than me, and I have no interest in stealing from tham to make my life easier. One needn't be greedy in order to be a good citizen.

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can you say 'the rich started it'...

No. I'm less interested in who started class warfare,

so you agree that the rich started it - but think that the poor shouldn't defend themselves...

Once again you socialist are dividing and conquering .
We need a flat tax so we can shut the socialist up with their dividing people up in groups. Like little children ( wahh he has more than me wahh ...

enough with your unfair taxation ... We need a flat tax.
Shut these fucking whiners up .

[dreamdancer 0]

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an inheritance tax is a tried and tested democratic form of wealth distribution.

Then all you need to do is convince the majority of the voters to make it a democtratic reality. Again, good luck with that--you're making a weak case to a tough audience.

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as for stupid people - you have every right to talk on their behalf...

Sure, my IQ is certainly up for debate. But at least I hope it's clear that I'm not hatefull towards those who are more affluent than me, and I have no interest in stealing from tham to make my life easier.

so we're agreed that a democratically voted inheritance tax is not stealing. it is a perfectly acceptable form of wealth distribution

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can you say 'the rich started it'...

No. I'm less interested in who started class warfare,

so you agree that the rich started it - but think that the poor shouldn't defend themselves...

Once again you socialist are dividing and conquering.

no, i'm not a banker...

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[winsor 236]

so we're agreed that a democratically voted inheritance tax is not stealing. it is a perfectly acceptable form of wealth distribution

Acceptable for Commie scum only.

[captain_stan 0]

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so we're agreed that a democratically voted inheritance tax is not stealing.

Did I say it is not stealing? What is your problem with permitting others to speak for themselves? I suppose that if you were respectful enough to do that, you would not be a stereotypical liberal. I suggest that you are so emotionally underdeveloped that you cannot permit yourself to ponder the ideas of others.

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it is a perfectly acceptable form of wealth distribution

If I pointed out that "acceptable" is subjective, would you know what that meant? Just because it is acceptable to you doesn't mean it will be to others. Do your parents know you're using their computer? I think we're done here.

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so we're agreed that a democratically voted inheritance tax is not stealing. it is a perfectly acceptable form of wealth distribution

Acceptable for Commie scum only.

so the majority are 'commie scum'...

(get those feet marching)

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[dreamdancer 0]

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so we're agreed that a democratically voted inheritance tax is not stealing.

Did I say it is not stealing?

you say it fulfills all the requirements of 'not stealing'

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[rushmc 23]

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The money simply isn't there.

sure it is - when 1% of the population own 40% of the nation's wealth...

Facts have no meaning to you do they?

Emotions

That is what you live on


And in this case it is the big green monster

Go cry to your mommy

Maybe she can get you want you want

sheech

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanJohnson 0]

***umm. Nobody owns me. Sorry if the politicians own you or something, that must suck. I get to wake up every morning and do whatever I want.

[dreamdancer 0]

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Go cry to your mommy

go f**k yourself...

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[dreamdancer 0]

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At a Thursday town hall meeting in Wauconda, Illinois, Tea Party Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) railed against defense cuts and entitlement programs, telling attendees that Americans refuse to have a discussion about how best to rein in the nation’s deficit and debt. But when Walsh asked how Americans planned to pay for those programs, he was caught off guard by a quick answer from one of the event’s attendees:

WALSH: This country, for years, has put off the discussion, how are we going to pay for that? Let’s have the discussion!

MAN: Let’s tax the rich.

WALSH: Let’s tax the rich, they say! (Applause) All I’m saying is —

MAN: We used to!

WALSH: Don’t know where you’re going to get the money.

Watch it, courtesy of Americans United for Change:

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/06/289618/joe-walsh-townhall-tax-rich/

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[StreetScooby 5]

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WALSH: Let’s tax the rich,

It's been clearly shown, in this thread and here http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4163833;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread, that there's not enough taxable revenue to cover what Obama is doing, even if he takes all of the corporate profits and all taxable revenue from millionaires and billionaires. Have you understood this?

Assuming you have understood those facts, then to get any more from the rich means you're going to start confiscating private property. The US Constitution prevents that.

The federal government has a spending problem that is not going to be solved by taxing the rich, nor by any other class warfare mechanism.

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[dreamdancer 0]

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Tax Rates For Millionaires Have Fallen 25 Percent Since 1995 | The Center for American Progress’ Seth Hanlon took a look at new IRS data and found that “as a percentage of their incomes, millionaires are now paying about one-quarter less of their income to federal taxes than they did in the mid-1990s”:

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/04/287913/tax-rates-millionaires25-percent-since-1995/

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[StreetScooby 5]

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http://thinkprogress.org/...-percent-since-1995/

This is becoming tiresome. For the last time, Obama would have to take ALL of the taxable revenue from millionaires and billionaires, and all corporate profits, to pay for his "vision". If you disagree with the math, then show us where the numbers are wrong. Pulling quotes from authors who haven't done the math doesn't change anything.

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[dreamdancer 0]

you haven't added in an inheritance tax which will be levied on wealth not income
(which is why 1% of the population owning 40% of the nation's wealth is an important ratio to keep in your head)

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you haven't added in an inheritance tax which will be levied on wealth not income

Besides the fact this can be considered a tax on something that's already been taxed, and it's confiscating private property, why don't you put together some numbers to show us. Can you do that?

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[dreamdancer 0]

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The total value of all U.S. household wealth in 2000 was approximately $44 trillion. Prior to the Late-2000s recession which began in December 2007 its value was at $65.9 trillion. After, it plunged to $48.5 trillion during the first quarter of 2009. The total household net worth rose 1.3% by the fourth quarter of 2009 to $54.2 trillion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_in_the_United_States#Distribution_of_wealth

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