JohnRich 4 #1 August 1, 2011 News:10 years after concealed weapons law, unclear why many in state were gun-shy Ten years after Michigan made it much easier for its citizens to get a license to carry a concealed gun, predictions of widespread lawless behavior and bloodshed have failed to materialize. Today, nearly 276,000 -- or about four out of every 100 eligible adult Michiganders -- are licensed. That's more than twice the number predicted...Full story: http://www.freep.com/article/20110731/NEWS06/107310482/Part-1-10-years-after-concealed-weapons-law-unclear-why-many-state-were-gun-shy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 August 1, 2011 Because they were told and taught to be scared of guns, instead of being taught how to respect guns and instead focus on being scared of criminal."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #3 August 30, 2011 Not directed at you John- Huh, more guns, LESS crime. Quote"opponents of the change warned of gun-toting, trigger-happy citizens loose on the streets." Didn't happen Quote"a recipe for disaster." Doesn't look it Quote"Columbine massacres on every corner" Didn't happen Quote"opponents gnashed teeth about an impending bloodbath" Didn't happen Quote"Whether licensing more people to carry concealed weapons results in more or less violent crime remains debatable. Michigan still has more than its fair share of crime, even as overall crime rates have mostly declined" Seems in this case it is not really debatable... Crime went down. Quote"My position was, and still is, is that the people we have a problem with with guns aren't the people who are willing to follow the law and go through the hoops and training," Bouchard said. Duh.... So here is a look at *10 years* of data... and when you add in FL and TX it is pretty easy to see that CHL/CWP does not ADD to any danger. You can debate that it does not reduce crime if you want... But it is perfectly clear that respecting a persons 2nd Amendment rights does not make "blood flow in the streets" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #4 August 30, 2011 Hi Texan, wow -a gun thread? Who would've thought that ... ! dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #5 August 30, 2011 wow, you replied with nothing of substance.....Who would've thought that ... ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,183 #6 August 31, 2011 Quotewow, you replied with nothing of substance.....Who would've thought that ... ! Irony score 10/10... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 August 31, 2011 QuoteQuotewow, you replied with nothing of substance.....Who would've thought that ... ! Irony score 10/10 not really. DaVinci replies with substance,but it might be 4 months later. Whereas she delivers the same lines over and over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #8 September 2, 2011 QuoteIrony score 10/10 You clearly did not read my post.... Here is some of the substance again, just for you. So here is a look at *10 years* of data... and when you add in FL and TX it is pretty easy to see that CHL/CWP does not ADD to any danger. You can debate that it does not reduce crime if you want... But it is perfectly clear that respecting a persons 2nd Amendment rights does not make "blood flow in the streets" But she, and now you, have provided nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #9 September 2, 2011 Quote .... But she, and now you, have provided nothing. She .... is providing the fllw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O040xuq2FR0 Isn't that heart breaking dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #10 September 2, 2011 QuoteShe .... is providing the fllw: Like always bringing nothing..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #11 September 2, 2011 Quote Quote She .... is providing the fllw: Like always bringing nothing..... she's just trying to fit in with the mindless dribble around here, you know!? “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
