StreetScooby 5 #26 September 6, 2011 Quote Models are nothing more than predictions to be tested. Climate scientists - many of them - now view models as the raw data and measurements that disagree are not to be trusted. Of course modelers are "all in" on the models. One of the "mistakes" I noticed in the paper came at the end. The author attempted to show how incomplete the modelling was in AGW by proposing another 1st order effects model, in the interest of demonstrating that modelling itself was incomplete. I figured this was going to be latched onto by AGW people. The paper should have only addressed the data, and nothing else.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #27 September 6, 2011 Yes. The paper isn't perfect and no doubt the authors gave a couple of digs in it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #28 September 6, 2011 QuoteYes. The paper isn't perfect and no doubt the authors gave a couple of digs in it. Funny to watch you squirming.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #29 September 6, 2011 It is truly going to be a pleasure to watch you fall off of the branch you are so perilously perched upon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #30 September 7, 2011 It's not a squirm. I have no vested interest. It's a statement of opinion from me that the authors did have a tone that I would have liked to have seen removed. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #31 September 7, 2011 QuoteIt's not a squirm. I have no vested interest. It's a statement of opinion from me that the authors did have a tone that I would have liked to have seen removed. Special K a "scientist". You wouldn't expect him to understand that would you? Really?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #32 September 15, 2011 Nobel prize winner for physics in 1973 Dr. Ivar Giaever resigned as a Fellow from the American Physical Society (APS). Quote Giaever announced his resignation from APS was due to the group's belief in man-made global warming fears. Giaever explained in his email to APS: "In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period." http://www.climatedepot.com/a/12797/Exclusive-Nobel-PrizeWinning-Physicist-Who-Endorsed-Obama-Dissents-Resigns-from-American-Physical-Society-Over-Groups-Promotion-of-ManMade-Global-WarmingWe are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #33 September 15, 2011 Seems he objects to Scientists using the word "Incontrovertible" I can't imagina any credible scientist coming to that conclusion over anything. After all, that is the basis of scientific research. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 September 15, 2011 QuoteSeems he objects to Scientists using the word "Incontrovertible" I can't imagina any credible scientist coming to that conclusion over anything. After all, that is the basis of scientific research. Scientists can use the word incontrovertible and still be scientists when they're talking about facts. If I say the Earth rotates around the Sun is incontrovertible, there's absolutely no conflict, because it is a fact.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #35 September 15, 2011 Looks like Al "I am a mega millionaire soon to be a carbon trading billionaire thanks to scaring people with threats that life on the planet is about to end 10 years from now" Gore has changed his mind that Climate Change isn't really your fault directly, well sort of. Simply amazing how this clown has been allowed to manipulate the media to make himself rich beyond belief and how many lemmings have been all to happy to believe his every word. According to Gore's timeline from his Nobel Peace Prize winning Academy Award winning film, shouldn't we all be dead by now? Or do we still have a couple more years left before Al's apocalypse? http://www.calgarysun.com/2011/09/14/al-gores-new-message Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #36 September 15, 2011 Alot of people don't realize that if cap and trade goes through, Goldman Sachs is going to make a FORTUNE, even by their own terms. Prophet-Gore will be a valued client, no doubt.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #37 September 16, 2011 QuoteNobel prize winner for physics in 1973 Dr. Ivar Giaever resigned as a Fellow from the American Physical Society (APS). Quote Giaever announced his resignation from APS was due to the group's belief in man-made global warming fears. Giaever explained in his email to APS: "In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period." http://www.climatedepot.com/a/12797/Exclusive-Nobel-PrizeWinning-Physicist-Who-Endorsed-Obama-Dissents-Resigns-from-American-Physical-Society-Over-Groups-Promotion-of-ManMade-Global-Warming How many didn't resign?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #38 September 16, 2011 Weak Sauce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
