Skyrad 0 #76 July 26, 2011 I didn't care one way or the other about Beck before he came out with this. Outside of the USA he's not really famous or on anyones radar. There is no ambiguity over his stupid comment.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #77 July 26, 2011 QuoteI didn't care one way or the other about Beck before he came out with this. Outside of the USA he's not really famous or on anyones radar. There is no ambiguity over his stupid comment. Nor do I He has to deal with his own statements But that does not meen that others can lie about what he really said And again I think his statement was not well thought out"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #78 July 26, 2011 >Sad that people look for any way to twist a statment into some kind of evil thing >And you stomp along in that shit just like the rest of them Obama: "Either way, I have told leaders of both parties that they must come up with a fair compromise in the next few days that can pass both houses of Congress — a compromise I can sign." RushMC: "Obamas Talking down to us . . .My way or the highway . . That is what I heard" Yes, it is very sad that someone's hatred can warp their perspective that much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #79 July 26, 2011 Quote>Sad that people look for any way to twist a statment into some kind of evil thing >And you stomp along in that shit just like the rest of them Obama: "Either way, I have told leaders of both parties that they must come up with a fair compromise in the next few days that can pass both houses of Congress — a compromise I can sign." RushMC: "Obamas Talking down to us . . .My way or the highway . . That is what I heard" Yes, it is very sad that someone's hatred can warp their perspective that much. No hatred You are projecting again He has said many things All of them do I look and pay attention to what he has done. You can pick one small line and defend him all you want. I could pick one small line and take the other route Or We can both look at what he has done and treatened So, are you going to get some help for your emotional problems?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #80 July 26, 2011 QuoteAgain, I am not defending him I think you kinda are, even if it's just a byproduct of defending yourself. QuoteI am pointing out the lie that the OP started What lie? Who goes to a Hitler Youth camp?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #81 July 26, 2011 QuoteWho goes to a Hitler Youth camp? young male Brazilian clones ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #82 July 26, 2011 QuoteDude, seriously. Just admit you were wrong. Are you really willing to destroy all your credibility over something this stupid? Destroy? He had none to begin with.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #83 July 26, 2011 QuoteI am beginning to think I am right Beck was talking about the Hitler youth camps not the kids themselves You know what Rush, I can see where you're coming from, and although you're wrong, I know neither of us will change our minds. So let's try a different tack. Details of the victims are beginning to be released, so I had a look. This is the first name I found "Monica Bosei" and this is a description "a victim of the Utoeya massacre who had organized the Labour youth camp on the island for years, earning her the nickname "Mother Utoya."" OK: The headline you took exception to was "Glenn Beck compares Norwegian victims to 'Hitler Youth": what Glenn Beck said was "As the thing started to unfold and there was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing": and this is the description of a victim "organized the Labour youth camp on the island for years". Rushmc, are you so full of shit you have toilet paper coming out of your ears?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #84 July 27, 2011 Quote I'm still amazed you're defending Beck. The guy is a low life who will say anything and do anything to get attention. He has a following of people that have been hoodwinked by his hijinks and now can't seem to tell reality from fiction. Again, good job on choosing to defend him. I agree - it's amazing. Just as amazing as you defending a low life with a badge who threatened to cave someone's head in. And just as much dancing about the words - silly claims of past tense that were easily disproved, followed by a "I wouldn't take the words of an angry gunman literally." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #85 July 27, 2011 Lets try it this way Can you tell me, very specifically, what YOU think Becks point was when he made the comment that made you post this thread? What specifically, was his point you find so despicable? And I will give you a benefit by going first and telling you what I think he meant. He made a comment, in a thought he was putting together, where he likened a group of kids, a camp. put together by a states political party that he likened to Hitlers Youth camps. Hitler did that too and I sure others are going on. A stupid comment at best But what I think those who think like you want it to be so much more. So much so you can manufacture some sort of issue to tear some YOU don't like or agree with down for your own purposed. The politics of personal destruction. This I find much more disgusting and dangerous than what Beck said. But I will wait for your explanation of his intent or point in your opinion Or anybody else s for that matter. At least Jakee is seeing what my point is even though he does not agree with it At least a debate can be had from a position like that I am not sure you even want one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #86 July 27, 2011 QuoteQuote I'm still amazed you're defending Beck. The guy is a low life who will say anything and do anything to get attention. He has a following of people that have been hoodwinked by his hijinks and now can't seem to tell reality from fiction. Again, good job on choosing to defend him. I agree - it's amazing. Just as amazing as you defending a low life with a badge who threatened to cave someone's head in. And just as much dancing about the words - silly claims of past tense that were easily disproved, followed by a "I wouldn't take the words of an angry gunman literally." Who are you quoting? Certainly not me. If you think I said that, I'll forgive you if you just admit you misquoted me there.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #87 July 27, 2011 Quote Who are you quoting? Certainly not me. If you think I said that, I'll forgive you if you just admit you misquoted me there. you were quoted just fine here. And just as rushmc won't yield on the latest Beck madness, nor will you on your own. Not one inch. But keep thinking you're different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #88 July 27, 2011 Quoteyou were quoted just fine here. Your dishonesty is showing. The quote is inaccurate.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #89 July 27, 2011 QuoteAt least Jakee is seeing what my point is even though he does not agree with it But Rush, I just explained that even if we accept your point, you're still wrong. Here it is again. So let's try a different tack. Details of the victims are beginning to be released, so I had a look. This is the first name I found "Monica Bosei" and this is a description "a victim of the Utoeya massacre who had organized the Labour youth camp on the island for years, earning her the nickname "Mother Utoya."" OK: The headline you took exception to was "Glenn Beck compares Norwegian victims to 'Hitler Youth'": what Glenn Beck said was "As the thing started to unfold and there was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing": and this is the description of a victim "organized the Labour youth camp on the island for years". For God's sake man, you haven't got a leg to stand on! You said you would come back and admit you were full of shit if you were wrong - it's time to man up!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 619 #90 July 27, 2011 QuoteCan you tell me, very specifically, what YOU think Becks point was when he made the comment that made you post this thread? What specifically, was his point you find so despicable? Ok my views on why it was despicable. He had no reason to bring up the Hitler Youth. The story is that a bunch of kids got shot and killed. Why should it be disturbing? He spends more time expounding his views on political camps than showing compassion for the victims THAT is disturbing. He spent time undermining the reputation (slandering) the dead and yet he is such an ill informed prick that he was't even certain which day the shooting took place on! You have repeatedly said that the thread title is not what he said, and that people are lying about what he said. It is an accurate summary of his statement and in all honesty it does not take much reading comprehension to follow. QuoteHe made a comment, in a thought he was putting together, where he likened a group of kids, a camp. put together by a states political party that he likened to Hitlers Youth camps. Hitler did that too and I sure others are going on. A stupid comment at best If you had stopped your previous post at this point you would have stopped digging. In fact that postExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #91 July 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteCan you tell me, very specifically, what YOU think Becks point was when he made the comment that made you post this thread? What specifically, was his point you find so despicable? Ok my views on why it was despicable. He had no reason to bring up the Hitler Youth.agreed The story is that a bunch of kids got shot and killed.Which is what he talked about Why should it be disturbing? He spends more time expounding his views on political camps than showing compassion for the victims THAT is disturbing.you need to go listen again He spent time undermining the reputation (slandering) the deadnot even close and yet he is such an ill informed prick that he was't even certain which day the shooting took place on!go listen to the tape You have repeatedly said that the thread title is not what he said, and that people are lying about what he said. It is an accurate summary of his statement and in all honesty it does not take much reading comprehension to follow.the words are accurate, but what those words meant is being used by those who do not like him to try and destroy him. QuoteHe made a comment, in a thought he was putting together, where he likened a group of kids, a camp. put together by a states political party that he likened to Hitlers Youth camps. Hitler did that too and I sure others are going on. A stupid comment at best If you had stopped your previous post at this point you would have stopped digging. In fact that post"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #92 July 27, 2011 Rush, it has been conclusively proved that the OP was accurate. When are you going to man up and admit you're full of shit, like you promised you would?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #93 July 27, 2011 QuoteRush, it has been conclusively proved that the OP was accurate. When are you going to man up and admit you're full of shit, like you promised you would? I do not agree Opinions are not proof For you or me Did you ever listen to the tape?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #94 July 27, 2011 On another note When have you and I had an exchange where you dont think I am full of shit? This topic is no different I just think you are wrong You and yours usually go much further..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #95 July 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteRush, it has been conclusively proved that the OP was accurate. When are you going to man up and admit you're full of shit, like you promised you would? I do not agree The headline you took exception to was "Glenn Beck compares Norwegian victims to 'Hitler Youth'": what Glenn Beck said was "As the thing started to unfold and there was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing": and this is the description of a victim "organized the Labour youth camp on the island for years". How could you possibly not agree? Beck specifically referenced the organisers of the camp and some of the dead were organisers of the camp.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #96 July 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteRush, it has been conclusively proved that the OP was accurate. When are you going to man up and admit you're full of shit, like you promised you would? I do not agree The headline you took exception to was "Glenn Beck compares Norwegian victims to 'Hitler Youth'": what Glenn Beck said was "As the thing started to unfold and there was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing": and this is the description of a victim "organized the Labour youth camp on the island for years". How could you possibly not agree? Beck specifically referenced the organisers of the camp and some of the dead were organisers of the camp. You can try and link shit together however the fuck you want to. It does not change the meaning of what he said HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THE TAPE?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #97 July 27, 2011 Hey Mods, isn't about that time? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #98 July 27, 2011 Quote Hey Mods, isn't about that time? It was a long time ago But they got to keep the destruction going"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #99 July 27, 2011 Quote It does not change the meaning of what he said And in your mind, what was the meaning of what he said? What do you think he was referring to when he said 'Hitler Youth' if not the kids who attend or the people who organised it (who he actually specifically mentions)? Do you think he was referring to the physical camp itself? Do you think he was comparing an inanimate object to the Hitler Youth? Explain to me exactly which part of Quade's OP you still think is wrong. I bet you can't even do that. You're just running on desperate bluff and bluster - anything to avoid having to do what you promised you would do. Quote HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THE TAPE? Yes Rush. I listened to it before you did. In fact, you already know I listened to it before you did, because on page 1 of this thread you replied to a post where I told you I listened to it. JesusDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #100 July 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteRush, it has been conclusively proved that the OP was accurate. When are you going to man up and admit you're full of shit, like you promised you would? I do not agree Your demonstrated ability with the English language in this forum over many years is not working in your favor.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites