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>this is Obama's economy

The economy will recover as it always does. When it does, it will be fun to see you post "Obama has NOTHING TO DO with the economy!"



I will remember this statement because i do not believe the economy will return "as it always has"..

There has been too much interference by Obama.[:/]

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...:ph34r: That is exactly what George Soros would say.:ph34r:



Your comment made me laugh. That is exactly what Glen Beck would say.


Actually I think that is the kind of comment that their hero Jeff Gannon would come up with.

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"This is not just a matter of Social Security checks," Obama also told CBS News. "These are veterans' checks; these are folks on disability and their checks. There are about 70 million checks that go out."



70 million checks!

The U.S. has a population of about 300 million. Children under age 18 comprise about 20% of that total, so that leaves 240 million adults. And of those, 70 million get a government check each month? In other words, 30% of all adults get some kind of government check each month, nearly one out of every three! And then add to that situation the fact that 51% of Americans pay no income taxes.

I think I see part of the budget problem here...

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>The Democrats want

And the republicans want

Republicans /Democrats are just labels created to confuse the masses.

When was the last time one of these parties was in control of the government and things got better for the common man?

When Congress talks about major tax hikes on the wealthy you can bet money that it's all talk. Won't ever happen.
Reason being they are all wealthy and they ain't gonna raise their own taxes.

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>It's like you're telling the punchline to the wrong joke.

That's what she said.



Gotta love the games you children play:D

Oh the incense.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Republicans /Democrats are just labels created to confuse the masses.

While I think THEY believe there's a difference, there really isn't much of one any more.



Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons own wealth or well being.
We don't have Statesmen anymore.
We have *politicians* in Congress.

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>Republicans /Democrats are just labels created to confuse the masses.

While I think THEY believe there's a difference, there really isn't much of one any more.



Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons own wealth or well being.
We don't have Statesmen anymore.
We have *politicians* in Congress.



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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which
>would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons
>own wealth or well being.

I disagree. I think 80% would.

But you never hear about them. You hear about Obama, Reid, Bachmann, Palin. You hear about the people making a name for themselves by attacking others. You hear attacks on other politicians, and with our news media today, you only hear the worst of the worst attacks. You never hear about the changes to diesel fuel requirements that results in cleaner air in cities, or the laws that prevent spurious DNA testing by law enforcement, or that regulate when they can track your cellphone. You only hear about the evil healthcare law, or the time that Bachmann voted to kill kids.

Our media has become a big reality TV show, and like any reality TV show, the millions of man-hours the government spends running things like the CDC, the FAA and military gets condensed to ten second sound bites. And you can bet they will be the most viewer-attention-grabbing sound bites they can possibly get, so that the viewer doesn't switch from FOX News to American Idol.

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>Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which
>would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons
>own wealth or well being.

I disagree. I think 80% would.

But you never hear about them. You hear about Obama, Reid, Bachmann, Palin. You hear about the people making a name for themselves by attacking others. You hear attacks on other politicians, and with our news media today, you only hear the worst of the worst attacks. You never hear about the changes to diesel fuel requirements that results in cleaner air in cities, or the laws that prevent spurious DNA testing by law enforcement, or that regulate when they can track your cellphone. You only hear about the evil healthcare law, or the time that Bachmann voted to kill kids.

Our media has become a big reality TV show, and like any reality TV show, the millions of man-hours the government spends running things like the CDC, the FAA and military gets condensed to ten second sound bites. And you can bet they will be the most viewer-attention-grabbing sound bites they can possibly get, so that the viewer doesn't switch from FOX News to American Idol.



Sadly, they are out-numbered by the self-centered, attention seekers. What's really sad about the idea of dis-continuing Social security is the older segment of our society who paid into it all their working lives and now, that's all they have. It's what pays their bills and buys a little food... once a month. What are those people going to do if, in fact, Social Security is cut. Our wonderful politicians got us into the mess we are in and now, they want to rob what little some of our older Americans have. I'd be willing to bet, not one of those politicians would give-up so much as a martini to help those older Americans. Un-believable!!!


Chuck

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>Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which
>would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons
>own wealth or well being.

I disagree. I think 80% would.

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If 80% would we wouldn't be in the predicament we are in.

80% didn't !!!

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>Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which
>would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons
>own wealth or well being.

I disagree. I think 80% would.

But you never hear about them. You hear about Obama, Reid, Bachmann, Palin. You hear about the people making a name for themselves by attacking others. You hear attacks on other politicians, and with our news media today, you only hear the worst of the worst attacks. You never hear about the changes to diesel fuel requirements that results in cleaner air in cities, or the laws that prevent spurious DNA testing by law enforcement, or that regulate when they can track your cellphone. You only hear about the evil healthcare law, or the time that Bachmann voted to kill kids.

Our media has become a big reality TV show, and like any reality TV show, the millions of man-hours the government spends running things like the CDC, the FAA and military gets condensed to ten second sound bites. And you can bet they will be the most viewer-attention-grabbing sound bites they can possibly get, so that the viewer doesn't switch from FOX News to American Idol.



Sadly, they are out-numbered by the self-centered, attention seekers. What's really sad about the idea of dis-continuing Social security is the older segment of our society who paid into it all their working lives and now, that's all they have. It's what pays their bills and buys a little food... once a month. What are those people going to do if, in fact, Social Security is cut. Our wonderful politicians got us into the mess we are in and now, they want to rob what little some of our older Americans have. I'd be willing to bet, not one of those politicians would give-up so much as a martini to help those older Americans. Un-believable!!!


Chuck


Hey.. as long as they are still getting their personal TRICKLE..so they can stay at the pig trough.. they will be right there making sure the FLOOD of government money keeps flowing to the malevolent masters who bought and paid for them. We the people is a dead concept... when corporations can spend as much as they want to buy the people we are supposedly electing.>:(

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. Our wonderful politicians got us into the mess we are in and now,

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Wait a second there , Chuck .

All the blame can't be transfered so neatly to the "wonderful politicians".
Who voted 'em in?

Don't the voters ultimately bare the burden of responsibility?

Are you a voter?
Isn't this partially your responsibility?
Are you trying to shirk your responsibility by blaming "the wonderful politicians"?

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>Sadly it is my opinion that not one member of Congress would vote for a Bill which
>would better the lives of millions if that Bill was detrimental to the congress persons
>own wealth or well being.

I disagree. I think 80% would.

But you never hear about them. You hear about Obama, Reid, Bachmann, Palin. You hear about the people making a name for themselves by attacking others. You hear attacks on other politicians, and with our news media today, you only hear the worst of the worst attacks. You never hear about the changes to diesel fuel requirements that results in cleaner air in cities, or the laws that prevent spurious DNA testing by law enforcement, or that regulate when they can track your cellphone. You only hear about the evil healthcare law, or the time that Bachmann voted to kill kids.

Our media has become a big reality TV show, and like any reality TV show, the millions of man-hours the government spends running things like the CDC, the FAA and military gets condensed to ten second sound bites. And you can bet they will be the most viewer-attention-grabbing sound bites they can possibly get, so that the viewer doesn't switch from FOX News to American Idol.



Sadly, they are out-numbered by the self-centered, attention seekers. What's really sad about the idea of dis-continuing Social security is the older segment of our society who paid into it all their working lives and now, that's all they have. It's what pays their bills and buys a little food... once a month. What are those people going to do if, in fact, Social Security is cut. Our wonderful politicians got us into the mess we are in and now, they want to rob what little some of our older Americans have. I'd be willing to bet, not one of those politicians would give-up so much as a martini to help those older Americans. Un-believable!!!


Chuck


Hey.. as long as they are still getting their personal TRICKLE..so they can stay at the pig trough.. they will be right there making sure the FLOOD of government money keeps flowing to the malevolent masters who bought and paid for them. We the people is a dead concept... when corporations can spend as much as they want to buy the people we are supposedly electing.>:(


That's the truth! They don't really care about those folks who voted them in just so long as they get voted in.


Chuck

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Wait a second there , Chuck .

All the blame can't be transfered so neatly to the "wonderful politicians".
Who voted 'em in?

Don't the voters ultimately bare the burden of responsibility?

Are you a voter?
Isn't this partially your responsibility?
Are you trying to shirk your responsibility by blaming "the wonderful politicians"?



That isn't worthy of a response.


Chuck

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. Our wonderful politicians got us into the mess we are in and now,

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Wait a second there , Chuck .

All the blame can't be transfered so neatly to the "wonderful politicians".
Who voted 'em in?

Don't the voters ultimately bare the burden of responsibility?

Are you a voter?
Isn't this partially your responsibility?
Are you trying to shirk your responsibility by blaming "the wonderful politicians"?



That isn't worthy of a response.
Chuck



I didn't expect you'ld man up and accept any responsibility.

It's easy to point the finger Chuck.

"it's those politicions fault!!"

The true fact is, Chuck, the voters picked those "politicions" for office!

The voters, the Citizenry, can only blame themselves for our current crisis.

So how do we solve the problems we are currently facing?

Do we vote in more "politicions" or do we scrap this government through peaceful revolution as has been exampled all over the world of late, and start over?

Do we default on the debt?
Whose debt is it Chuck?
Is it yours and mine or does it belong to those "wonderful politicians" we elected to office?

C'mon Chuck, you've attempted to place the blame at the feet of others although it is evident that you are at least partially to blame.
Don't run and hide.
Accept your portion of blame and then we can move forward toward solutions!

What say you?

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