Gun Joke

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There are a number of people on this forum that are simply single digit binary in their thinking.

frankly, they are either binary in thinking, or not

The point I was making was some only have 1 bit processors whereas the world is much more than 64 bit.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[champu 1]

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...whereas the world is much more than 64 bit.

In matters of opinion the world is at most log2(6.93e10) bits.

If everyone gets their own quantization level that gives you about 200 dB of dynamic range, which is plenty.

[masterrig 1]

Really? I think anybody that says they're not afraid of anything actually is fooling themselves.

There's an old saying; 'Never let the other guy know your weaknesses.'


Chuck

[popsjumper 2]

What did one gun say to the other gun?
Hey! Let's go out and get loaded tonight!

I just made that up.

I'm hitting on all six cylinders!

Get a grip, eh?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[JohnRich 4]

A statistician, an engineer, and a physicist are out hunting together. They spy a deer in the woods.

The physicist calculates the velocity of the deer and the effect of gravity on the bullet, aims his rifle and fires. Alas, he misses; the bullet passes three feet behind the deer. The deer bolts some yards, but comes to a halt, still within sight of the trio.

“Shame you missed,” comments the engineer, “but of course with an ordinary gun, one would expect that.” He then levels his special deer-hunting gun, which he rigged together from an ordinary rifle, a sextant, a compass, a barometer, and a bunch of flashing lights which don’t do anything but impress onlookers, and fires. Alas, his bullet passes three feet in front of the deer, who by this time wises up and vanishes for good.

“Well,” says the physicist, “your contraption didn’t get it either.”

“What do you mean?” pipes up the statistician. “Between the two of you, that was a perfect shot!”

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What did one gun say to the other gun?
Hey! Let's go out and get loaded tonight!

I just made that up.

I'm hitting on all six cylinders!

Get a grip, eh?

Grooooan! Those are so bad... I had to laugh.

I know what you were aiming for...


Chuck

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Ok, can someone explain this to me?
I feel comfortable around guns. I have had many years of training with guns. Sometimes I walk around with a gun. Sometimes I don't. I don't feel particularly "fearful" while walking with a gun. I don't feel "fearful" walking without a gun either. So can someone explain this whole "I don't need a gun because i don't live in fear" deal?? I'm no superman, so where's my irrational fear?
I look at carrying a gun like carrying a first aid kit on a hike. If I do carry a first aid kit, does that mean I'm afraid I'll break my leg? Not really, I just like to be prepared. If I carry a gun, does that mean I'm afraid I'll get mugged/shot/decapitated? Not really, I just like to be prepared.
Savvy?

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So can someone explain this whole "I don't need a gun because i don't live in fear" deal??

That's just the liberal gun-o-phobes way of feeling superior to you. That feeling lasts in their minds right up to the point where someone attacks them and they need a gun to defend themselves. Then they turn into a conservative and go buy a gun.

I wonder if they live in fear of a traffic accident because they wear their seat belt? Do they live in fear of a house fire, by having a fire extinguisher? Do they live in fear of being stranded on the highway by having a spare tire? Gosh, they're downright paranoid!

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So can someone explain this whole "I don't need a gun because i don't live in fear" deal??

That's just the liberal gun-o-phobes way of feeling superior to you. That feeling lasts in their minds right up to the point where someone attacks them and they need a gun to defend themselves. Then they turn into a conservative and go buy a gun.

I wonder if they live in fear of a traffic accident because they wear their seat belt? Do they live in fear of a house fire, by having a fire extinguisher? Do they live in fear of being stranded on the highway by having a spare tire? Gosh, they're downright paranoid!

To be fair, there's a valid distinction between being prepared to deal with chance "single person" events like flat tires and scraping a knee while hiking and being prepared for events that occur due to malice from another person. Having a fire extinguisher in your house is a lot more like carrying a rifle on your ATV while on backwoods trails in case you run into a bear than it is like carrying a handgun around town.

In some towns the worst you really get are stolen bicycles, tools missing from construction sites, and smash and grabs from parked cars. Carrying on a daily basis in a town like that might be a little over the top. If you want to keep an 870 in your house, though, you could probably make that argument no matter where you live.

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If you want to keep an 870 in your house, though, you could probably make that argument no matter where you live.

Here's a democratic congressman that you can bet is pro-gun:
"Congressman, grandson fight off armed intruder"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43794799/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

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So can someone explain this whole "I don't need a gun because i don't live in fear" deal??

That's just the liberal gun-o-phobes way of feeling superior to you.

Wrong again JR. It's called being honest with yourself.

Every claim you make about using weapons for the purposes of self defense is based on the fear you or your loved ones could be attacked.

Here's yet another recent example;

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Here's a democratic congressman that you can bet is pro-gun:
"Congressman, grandson fight off armed intruder"

Again, an opinion based solely on the overall fear of being attacked.

This also holds true in the example a bit higher up about "carrying a rifle on your ATV while on backwoods trails in case you run into a bear." Again, it's the primal fear of being attacked.

Not that there's anything wrong with it. Fear is a survival tool and keeps the species alive, but to deny that's the motivation is silly. Just be honest with yourself.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Not that there's anything wrong with it. Fear is a survival tool and keeps the species alive, but to deny that's the motivation is silly.

So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

[mnealtx 0]

That applies to fire extinguishers, spare tires, seatbelts/air bags, etc... so I guess the 'living in fear' meme (as only applied to 'gunnies') can go bye-bye now, right?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

Um, yeah. Isn't that why you wear one?

- Dan G

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So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

Um, yeah. Isn't that why you wear one?

I don't fear malfunctions, nor do I have high anxiety over the possibility every time I jump. If I did, I would just quit jumping. Instead, I just recognize that it's something that can possibly happen, and I'm prepared to handle that outcome. No different than carrying a gun, or wearing a seat belt while driving. It does not mean that "fear" is the motivation, or even a presence in my mind.

Gun-o-phobes overuse the "fear" argument when it comes to guns, because they like to make themselves feel superior for not having one, and imagine that everyone who does is simple-minded. Actually, they're just trying to hide their own innate fear...

[DanG 1]

I think you're getting wrapped around the word "fear". I don't own a gun only because my wife doesn't like guns. I respect her opinion. We have two big dogs, so people are not likely to view our house as an easy target. On the other hand, the only reason I would want a gun (besides the fact that shooting is fun) is because not having one could make a bad situation worse. To me, the thought that bad things could happen in a given scenario is the same as fearing the bad outcome. I guesss it's just semantics, but I think that fear of negative consequences is the reason people carry for prrotection. That doesn't mean they are afraid all the time.

- Dan G

[skydiver30960 0]

Starting back at the OP:

What the joke doesn't tell you is that the guy pulled over was morbidly obese, driving without his seatbelt on, smoking his way through his third pack of the day, holding a Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese in one hand, and had a fifth of Jack Daniels in a brown paper bag on the seat next to him.

Elvisio "guns stop hearts, not heart disease " Rodriguez

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Not that there's anything wrong with it. Fear is a survival tool and keeps the species alive, but to deny that's the motivation is silly.

So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

Yes! Of course! Why else would you have it?

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[masterrig 1]

You make a good point and I can agree with you. I firmly believe in our right 'to keep and bear arms'. Where I live, we get a lot of drug and human smuggling. Carrying a firearm is like you said... about the same as keeping a first-aid kit or tools in your pick-up tool box. Also, I'm in a rural part of the country and don't rely on a big city to take care of me. I can take care of myself and if, the time arises where I need a firearm... I've got it. Just like the first-aid kit or the tools in the tool box of my pick-up. Dialing 911 out here would take too long. I am also, very aware of the responsibility of carrying a firearm.


Chuck

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Not that there's anything wrong with it. Fear is a survival tool and keeps the species alive, but to deny that's the motivation is silly.

So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

Yes! Of course! Why else would you have it?

As any Boy Scout could tell you - Be Prepared.

[bdazel 0]

Websters defines fear:
a : an unpleasant often strong emotion caused by anticipation or awareness of danger b (1) : an instance of this emotion (2) : a state marked by this emotion

If I felt that during every skydive I would quit jumping.

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So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

Yes! Of course! Why else would you have it?

Well, some people jump with a reserve only because the dz requires it.

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This also holds true in the example a bit higher up about "carrying a rifle on your ATV while on backwoods trails in case you run into a bear." Again, it's the primal fear of being attacked.

I... don't think you understood the point of my post.

As Dan mentioned I think people are getting hung up with the word fear. My post wasn't about fear vs. lack thereof in the examples of preparedness people are coming up with, my post was about misathropy vs. lack thereof in those examples.

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I guesss it's just semantics, but I think that fear of negative consequences is the reason people carry for protection. That doesn't mean they are afraid all the time.

That's a good description, thank you. The problem is that the anti-gun folks like to portray gun-carriers as people who stupidly walk around afraid of everything that moves, thereby implying that they can't be trusted. It's part of the word games they play.

Their problem is that concealed carry is now legal in 49 out of 50 states, and it isn't a problem in any of them. Licensed gun-carriers aren't running around getting involved in a lot of wrongful shootings. So the portrayal by the gun-o-phobes falls flat on its face in reality.

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So, because you skydive with a reserve parachute, does this mean that every time you jump you do so in fear of a main parachute malfunction?

Yes! Of course! Why else would you have it?

Why do you continue to skydive if it involves such fear with each and every jump?