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This case affects me how?



I have no idea. If you don't care about the subject, why are you replying?


To make others think the same thing rather than argue aimlessly on the interwebz


Take another hit, dude. On second thought, maybe not.;)
Chuck Akers
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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?

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Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



depends on their actions and if they are a threat to the rest of us - the reason they are a threat to the rest of humanity is secondary to their actions

so same answer applies to all rationalizations, not just insanity - if we can help them? then do so. if we can't and they are likely to do it again, we execute them

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Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



depends on their actions and if they are a threat to the rest of us - the reason they are a threat to the rest of humanity is secondary to their actions

so same answer applies to all rationalizations, not just insanity - if we can help them? then do so. if we can't and they are likely to do it again, we execute them



So a life in prison isolation isn't an option for you?

You advocatefor the execution of the insane?

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Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



depends on their actions and if they are a threat to the rest of us - the reason they are a threat to the rest of humanity is secondary to their actions

so same answer applies to all rationalizations, not just insanity - if we can help them? then do so. if we can't and they are likely to do it again, we execute them



So a life in prison isolation isn't an option for you?



you didn't offer it - I answered to the options you provided. Since you only offered those options, the assumption was you were talking about the most heinous of crimes possible and trying to pattern something execution-worthy allowing a rationalization of insanity being an option for excuse. Typical argument for people that care more about motivation and feelings over actions.

IMO, since you changed your offering and diluted the discussion to just general crimes now...... - Life in prison is another option and it also fits in with the total set spanning release through rehab through imprisonment to execution

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Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



depends on their actions and if they are a threat to the rest of us - the reason they are a threat to the rest of humanity is secondary to their actions

so same answer applies to all rationalizations, not just insanity - if we can help them? then do so. if we can't and they are likely to do it again, we execute them



So a life in prison isolation isn't an option for you?



you didn't offer it - I answered to the options you provided.

IMO, since you changed your offering - Life in prison is another option and it also fits in with the total set spanning release through rehab through imprisonment to execution



What? I have to offer it?
You can't take the intiative and noodle out other options yourself?
Death is the only way!!!!!

That's what is wrong with the US today!
Too many are waiting for "them" to fix the problems.
Most are too complacent now that they have their flatscreens and their beer, a slaves wage to get them by.

Maybe we should all take a few minutes a day and just think.

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You can't take the intiative and noodle out other options yourself?
Death is the only way!!!!!



No apparently death or "help" are the only two

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Should we execute the crazy or help them out?




what we have is a different interpretation of the question - now that we've sniped twice each, we can stop if you like:D

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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



I would think, there are some psychoanalists who would did-agree. I have known one or two people in my life who absolutely, did not have a consciense.
I do feel, this type person should be separated from society. Yes, a conscience does separate us from the beasts but there are still, some humans who do not have that quality. They are called 'sociopaths'.


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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?




Lets encourage all of the crazies to move to to the Fresno CA area... they will get all kinds of support there.

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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



I would think, there are some psychoanalists who would did-agree. I have known one or two people in my life who absolutely, did not have a consciense.
I do feel, this type person should be separated from society. Yes, a conscience does separate us from the beasts but there are still, some humans who do not have that quality. They are called 'sociopaths'.
Chuck



So should we judge and kill these "crazy" or would a lifetime of lockup be an option for you?

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No, it was an obviously guilty suspect that was nullified by a jury. The only thing left to do is figure out why they did it. Death penalty maybe?



I have not been following this case, but... I did serve on a jury for a murder trial where the death penalty was to be sought if there was a conviction, and they were very thorough during voir dire in getting rid of anyone who was against the death penalty or who felt that they wouldn't be able to choose the death penalty. They also got rid of those who were overly-enthusiastic about the death penalty. And, of course, during the conviction phase we weren't supposed to consider what the penalty might be. Now I'm sure it was on our minds anyway, but I didn't use it in my decision, and I don't think the others did either.

Oh, and reading the news stories afterwards, along with the comments from the peanut gallery, there was (mostly inaccurate) speculation on why the jury did what we did. From people who hadn't spent the past two months sitting on the jury stand and in the jury room.

I'm guessing that if these 12 jurors came to a consensus that quickly, that there must have not been enough evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Unfortunate if she was the killer, but I'd rather see guilty people go free than see innocent people convicted. Innocent until _proven_ guilty.

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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



I would think, there are some psychoanalists who would did-agree. I have known one or two people in my life who absolutely, did not have a consciense.
I do feel, this type person should be separated from society. Yes, a conscience does separate us from the beasts but there are still, some humans who do not have that quality. They are called 'sociopaths'.
Chuck



So should we judge and kill these "crazy" or would a lifetime of lockup be an option for you?



You really like giving options, don't you? What do you think we should do with them? You're the 'almost' barrister!

As for my option... hmmmmm... I'll take 'The rapists' for $100!


Chuck

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it's a not so subtle attempt to hijack a thread about "respect for the process of law vs public emotional opinion and need for a scapegoat"

and turn it into the same old tired capital punishment topic

but done without a lot of rancor - which I appreciate

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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



I would think, there are some psychoanalists who would did-agree. I have known one or two people in my life who absolutely, did not have a consciense.
I do feel, this type person should be separated from society. Yes, a conscience does separate us from the beasts but there are still, some humans who do not have that quality. They are called 'sociopaths'.
Chuck



So should we judge and kill these "crazy" or would a lifetime of lockup be an option for you?



You really like giving options, don't you? What do you think we should do with them? You're the 'almost' barrister!
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I believe it is not for us to judge one another.
Certainly we don't have the right to ever take a life.
Not even if your own is in peril.

What are you scared of?
You were going anyway.
It was just a matter of time and time is an illusion created for man.

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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



I would think, there are some psychoanalists who would did-agree. I have known one or two people in my life who absolutely, did not have a consciense.
I do feel, this type person should be separated from society. Yes, a conscience does separate us from the beasts but there are still, some humans who do not have that quality. They are called 'sociopaths'.
Chuck



So should we judge and kill these "crazy" or would a lifetime of lockup be an option for you?



You really like giving options, don't you? What do you think we should do with them? You're the 'almost' barrister!
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I believe it is not for us to judge one another.
Certainly we don't have the right to ever take a life.
Not even if your own is in peril.

What are you scared of?
You were going anyway.
It was just a matter of time and time is an illusion created for man.



I'm not going near that!!!


Chuck

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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.


Really? Have you never heard of sociopaths?



Pretty sure the word you're looking for is psychopath.
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Thing is she will always have to live with the fact that her daughter, the one she took such care of before that stupid mistake, is dead.



Personally, I think, the woman is crazy! She has no feeling for anyone but her self and totally, lacks a conscience. I'm no 'shrink', just my opinion.
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Chuck, everyone has a conscience. It's what seperates us from the animals.
Yes the woman may be crazy but is that her fault?

Should we execute the crazy or help them out?



I would think, there are some psychoanalists who would did-agree. I have known one or two people in my life who absolutely, did not have a consciense.
I do feel, this type person should be separated from society. Yes, a conscience does separate us from the beasts but there are still, some humans who do not have that quality. They are called 'sociopaths'.
Chuck



So should we judge and kill these "crazy" or would a lifetime of lockup be an option for you?



You really like giving options, don't you? What do you think we should do with them? You're the 'almost' barrister!
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I believe it is not for us to judge one another.
Certainly we don't have the right to ever take a life.
Not even if your own is in peril.

What are you scared of?
You were going anyway.
It was just a matter of time and time is an illusion created for man.



I'm not going near that!!!
Chuck



Why?
What are you scared of?
I hate to break the news to you Chuck but you are going to die. We all will.
It may be today, next year, this exact moment!
It is all an illusion , Chuck.
Time was created for man!

Men die but their conscience continues.
Don't be scared!

I assure you..,
Everythin' gonna be alright this mo'nin' .

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