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Andy9o8 2
Quoteit's almost certainly unconstitutional.
Hm. Thinking it through (and long story short), I can see arguments both pro (e.g., "rational basis") and con ("violation of privacy") the constitutionality of this law. On balance, I think it's a fairly close call. Given that the SCOTUS is currently 5-4 in favor of the conservative wing, and the Florida Supreme Court is currently 4-3 in favor of the conservatives, I'd give the law's constitutionality a roughly 4 to 3 chance of being upheld if litigated in Florida state courts, and a roughly 5 to 4 chance of being upheld if litigated in federal court (the latter assuming the SCOTUS agrees to hear the case).
Studies have shown that in the long run testing does very little as illicit drug use is not an overall problem. Alcohol abuse and mental health is a far more serious problem than the person who smokes the occasional joint. Marijuana is the more prevalent illicit drug of choice. Alcohol is the more common drug amongst welfare recipients. Mental health is the more common barrier to work.
http://www.fordschool.umich.edu/research/pdf/drugtest.pdf
http://www.npc.umich.edu/publications/policy_briefs/brief02/
The cost to implement, more likely, will exceed the benefit. Greater focus on mental health, alcohol abuse, education, and transportation would greatly reduce welfare recipients than screening solely for illicit drugs.
http://www.fordschool.umich.edu/research/pdf/drugtest.pdf
http://www.npc.umich.edu/publications/policy_briefs/brief02/
The cost to implement, more likely, will exceed the benefit. Greater focus on mental health, alcohol abuse, education, and transportation would greatly reduce welfare recipients than screening solely for illicit drugs.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
I could be wrong but isn't an sba loan supposed to be paid back with interest?
quade 4
QuoteI could be wrong but isn't an sba loan supposed to be paid back with interest?
All the more reason to not give them to drug addicts!
Let's test everybody!
BTW, a rather large number of SBA loans are never repaid because they default.
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What about Smokers and drinkers and fat people and .................................
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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome
QuoteWhat about Smokers and drinkers and fat people and .................................
Smoking and drinking and eating are legal. Doing something about the welfare problem is better than sitting and watching it happen. This probably isn't the best way of dealing with it, but it's a start.
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteI could be wrong but isn't an sba loan supposed to be paid back with interest?
All the more reason to not give them to drug addicts!
Let's test everybody!
BTW, a rather large number of SBA loans are never repaid because they default.
Ok, so I see the difference
It is OK to tell people in companies what they have to do to get gov money. But it is not OK to tell unemployed people who get gov money what they have to do to get that same money
Double standard much?
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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airdvr 210
The problem is simple.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/275200442_0fd71ec3c3.jpg?v=0
Too many pigs, not enough tits.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/275200442_0fd71ec3c3.jpg?v=0
Too many pigs, not enough tits.
Please don't dent the planet.
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Last I checked there wasn't a big problem with corporate CEO's being drug addicts and spending all their, ahem, "welfare money" on crack.
Pretty much the same with SBA loans.
100% compliance is an unrealistic goal because it will never happen. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do something about the problem. You see, I tend to be pro-active. Sitting back and giving up is not an option in my book.
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