skygypsie 2 #1 June 30, 2011 Just curious if anyone has any feedback on how they feel about what qualifications; if any is needed, by someone who just squeaked by getting an A License & then 'buys' in to become a DZO...it would seem for the title. I say squeaked by, as this DZO doesn't know how to pack their own parachute & once they obtained their A license at the end of last season, quit jumping ! The lack of this individuals hands on participation, limited skydiving knowledge & experience, familiarness with FAA, NTSB, & USPA regs. has already become evident ! The participation & attendence at the DZ is limited & brief, but when they are there...totally tips the pony cart, initiates conflicts in front of Staff, students & spectators. Though the hangar has had some nice new innemities since the newly acquired position: updated fridge, a nice business card holder on the manifest desk, a partial partition to block the suns reflection on the tandem student's video screen & I think there's talk of curtains Some dedicated & experienced staff & upjumpers have already 'left' the dz for good ! Do you think DZO's should have more under their belt, other than a money belt ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #2 June 30, 2011 Depends on how hands on they are. I find it hard to believe that anyone would buy a DZ for 'the title' It means nothing. If the DZO has a good management team there is no reason why they need to have even made a tandem jump. Business is business and an investment is an investment. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #3 June 30, 2011 i would say that Anyone who DOES have ,,,, time in the sportyears & years spent on a dropzone...ratings, licenses and credentials,and a brain in their head.would NEVER do such a foolish thing!!!!!!!Now on the other hand, someone with "just enough knowledge to get themselves, ( and others) into trouble" could very likely think that being a DZO, would be a good idea....usually the THOUGHT that it would be a hugely profitable venture, can lead anyone, down that path... sometimes it DOES work out, sometimes,,,,, not. good luck ps happy anniversary.... jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 June 30, 2011 Why is this in Speakers Corner? Is this person a Republican or a Democrat? Are they gay or straight? Is this DZ in a Red State or a Blue State? Who did this DZO vote for in the last election? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #5 June 30, 2011 They'll either succeed, or they'll fail. In the meantime, if you don't like it there, don't go there. Pretty simple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 June 30, 2011 Quote Why is this in Speakers Corner? Is this person a Republican or a Democrat? Are they gay or straight? Is this DZ in a Red State or a Blue State? Who did this DZO vote for in the last election? You forgot one (John will not be happy with you). Does this DZO own a gun? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #7 June 30, 2011 Quote Quote Why is this in Speakers Corner? Is this person a Republican or a Democrat? Are they gay or straight? Is this DZ in a Red State or a Blue State? Who did this DZO vote for in the last election? You forgot one (John will not be happy with you). Does this DZO own a gun? Yep, we also need to know if they are in the country legally. I really can't see how we can answer the OP's question without this information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #8 June 30, 2011 Quote Do you think DZO's should have more under their belt, other than a money belt ? "innemities"? I think you mean amenities__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #9 June 30, 2011 Quote Just curious if anyone has any feedback on how they feel about what qualifications; if any is needed, by someone who just squeaked by getting an A License & then 'buys' in to become a DZO...it would seem for the title. I say squeaked by, as this DZO doesn't know how to pack their own parachute & once they obtained their A license at the end of last season, quit jumping ! The lack of this individuals hands on participation, limited skydiving knowledge & experience, familiarness with FAA, NTSB, & USPA regs. has already become evident ! The participation & attendence at the DZ is limited & brief, but when they are there...totally tips the pony cart, initiates conflicts in front of Staff, students & spectators. Though the hangar has had some nice new innemities since the newly acquired position: updated fridge, a nice business card holder on the manifest desk, a partial partition to block the suns reflection on the tandem student's video screen & I think there's talk of curtains Some dedicated & experienced staff & upjumpers have already 'left' the dz for good ! Do you think DZO's should have more under their belt, other than a money belt ? Another rich person who should be taxed more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #10 June 30, 2011 Wolf Grulkey, the best DZO I've ever met (though many are cut from the same cloth) Has about 25 jumps and none in several years. When asked about it, he usually explains, "If one owns a bar, one should not drink." What he gets is that skydiving is only part of what makes this sport so great. He loves the people who jump, he loves to fly, and being a DZO seems to work pretty well for him. He's gone deep into debt at times while while extending credit to his friends that otherwise wouldn't be able to jump... His business thrives, and his DZ is highly regarded for it's friendly, inclusive atmosphere. I've seen people buy a dropzone before they knew what it really meant to be a skydiver. They didn't understand the cameraderie required to have a well rounded DZ, and treated it only as a business...all about money. They lost much of the staff and alienated many jumpers in the process. The DZ survived, but it is now just a business. I guess there are lots of ways to skin a cat."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #11 June 30, 2011 QuoteThey'll either succeed, or they'll fail. In the meantime, if you don't like it there, don't go there. Pretty simple. +1"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #12 June 30, 2011 QuoteWhy is this in Speakers Corner? Is this person a Republican or a Democrat? Are they gay or straight? Is this DZ in a Red State or a Blue State? Who did this DZO vote for in the last election? And does he/she have a CCW?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #13 June 30, 2011 QuoteWolf Grulkey, the best DZO I've ever met +++1 I agree, Wolf is the BEST DZO I have ever met. He is the definition of a "class act." I only wish that I could get down there more. Hats off to Wolf for being what every DZO should be."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 June 30, 2011 QuoteWolf Grulkey, the best DZO I've ever met (though many are cut from the same cloth) Has about 25 jumps and none in several years. When asked about it, he usually explains, "If one owns a bar, one should not drink." What he gets is that skydiving is only part of what makes this sport so great. He loves the people who jump, he loves to fly, and being a DZO seems to work pretty well for him. He's gone deep into debt at times while while extending credit to his friends that otherwise wouldn't be able to jump... His business thrives, and his DZ is highly regarded for it's friendly, inclusive atmosphere. I've seen people buy a dropzone before they knew what it really meant to be a skydiver. They didn't understand the cameraderie required to have a well rounded DZ, and treated it only as a business...all about money. They lost much of the staff and alienated many jumpers in the process. The DZ survived, but it is now just a business. I guess there are lots of ways to skin a cat. Ah.. the old school Golden Rule. He who has the gold gets to make all the rules... no matter how much they alienate any and everyone. Hey to people like that its all about their inner control freakishness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #15 June 30, 2011 Why should owning this type of business differ from any other? A successful business owner doesn't always need to have intricate knowledge of the industry, just hire the right people that do! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygypsie 2 #16 June 30, 2011 pardon the grammar oopsie..must've been combining indemnities & amenities in my thoughts should've just said " perks" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
