wmw999 2,588 #101 June 23, 2011 I heard an interview with a farmer in Georgia, who did, in fact, try to hire locals to do his picking. He said that the overwhelming majority didn't last more than a day. Now -- he can keep trying new workers who quit right away, or he can go back to using a proven quantity -- people who are willing and able to do the work, day after day. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #102 June 23, 2011 So you think we need a scale to determine how illegal someone is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #103 June 23, 2011 QuoteI heard an interview with a farmer in Georgia, who did, in fact, try to hire locals to do his picking. He said that the overwhelming majority didn't last more than a day. Now -- he can keep trying new workers who quit right away, or he can go back to using a proven quantity -- people who are willing and able to do the work, day after day. Wendy P. Then he needs to hire legal migrant workers. http://www.naalc.org/migrant/english/pdf/mgusah2a_en.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #104 June 23, 2011 >So you think we need a scale to determine how illegal someone is? We have scales for determining how illegal a drunk a driver is and how much to fine a speeding driver - so yes, there is precedent for that. Heck, we even have republicans defending a senator who broke the law, so even the right understands that on a very basic level. Personally, if there's an illegal alien living in a house, paying his taxes, supporting his family and working hard at his job, I'm a lot less concerned than with an illegal alien who is helping other people enter the country illegally, panhandling for spending cash and living off some state welfare program. Are they both breaking the law? Definitely. Is one a bigger problem than the other? Definitely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #105 June 23, 2011 Quotea senator who broke the law There's nothing left but gelatin, Bill...how much longer are you planning on beating that horse?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #106 June 23, 2011 >how much longer are you planning on beating that horse? As long as you keep up with your "enforce the law equally" nonsense. It makes you look pretty silly to be supporting both sides of that argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #107 June 23, 2011 Quote>how much longer are you planning on beating that horse? As long as you keep up with your "enforce the law equally" nonsense. It makes you look pretty silly to be supporting both sides of that argument. Nice spin - have fun with your Jello in that centrifuge, Bill.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #108 June 23, 2011 QuotePersonally, if there's an illegal alien living in a house, paying his taxes, supporting his family and working hard at his job, I'm a lot less concerned than with an illegal alien who is helping other people enter the country illegally, panhandling for spending cash and living off some state welfare program. Are they both breaking the law? Definitely. Is one a bigger problem than the other? Definitely. This what I've been trying to say all along. You did a better job, and somehow without being a dick about it. Sorry I let myself get riled up. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #109 June 23, 2011 >>That's not the result. The result is $4 per tomato with the same workers picking >>tomatoes - just in Mexico instead of the US. >so Dan is making up false boogeymen, you say? I guess that depends on whether you worry more about the price of tomatoes or losing yet another industry to foreign competition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites