kelpdiver 2 #26 June 16, 2011 QuoteHow many of the 2008 and potential 2012 GOP candidates did or still work for Fox News? Santorum, Gingrich, Palin, Huckabee…any others? How many of the 2008 DNC candidates do they have under contract? Very intriguing point - certainly nothing like it has ever been seen. I recall early in the decade when Wag the Dog was released that, that concerns about the mixing of media people were raised. That movie had a valid, if poorly delivered notion about the media making reality and starred many of the reporters of the time. Afterwards, some orgs prohibited their reporters from being actors due to worries about the threat to their appearance of objectivity. Now that Fox News is serving as a AA ball league for GOP hopefuls, it's even hard to take their 'fair and balanced' motto seriously. I don't they care anymore (or ever, so long as ratings are good), but if they want to change that, they'll need to evaluate what they've done. Or if being a commentator is even an intelligent way to position yourself for the Oval Office? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #27 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuote I do not expect to EVER hear any more lies or other bullshit about "Liberal Media Bias" ever again. ROTFLOL, grow the fuck up..................the man lied like a dog....total BS and you think because someone else did worse your guy should get a pass???? Ya, this sums it up right here. Vitter was caught and quit. Weiner lied about it until he was forces out by ridicule. According to the deomcunts here, isn't lying and hypocrisy the greatest crimes known to man? That's what we get when ever family values comes up. (All the talk about resculicans and repubicans and such, I thought I would give it a try with democunts. What do you think? Catchy?)"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #28 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote I do not expect to EVER hear any more lies or other bullshit about "Liberal Media Bias" ever again. ROTFLOL, grow the fuck up..................the man lied like a dog....total BS and you think because someone else did worse your guy should get a pass???? Ya, this sums it up right here. Vitter was caught and quit. Weiner lied about it until he was forces out by ridicule. According to the deomcunts here, isn't lying and hypocrisy the greatest crimes known to man? That's what we get when ever family values comes up. (All the talk about resculicans and repubicans and such, I thought I would give it a try with democunts. What do you think? Catchy?) I always thought funjumper101 was using RWC as shorthand for the legion of Right Wing Cunts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #29 June 16, 2011 Quote Now that Fox News is serving as a AA ball league for GOP hopefuls, it's even hard to take their 'fair and balanced' motto seriously. I don't they care anymore (or ever, so long as ratings are good), but if they want to change that, they'll need to evaluate what they've done. Or if being a commentator is even an intelligent way to position yourself for the Oval Office? I guess you guys are kind of limited in your watching of the news networks. let me help you out. When I watch MSNBC, I get to see a bunch of guys sit around slamming everything republican. When I watch fox news, I get to watch democrats and republicans throw shit back and forth at each other. While Fox may have a lot of right wing hosts, they will at least invite an opposing view for a lively debate. My favorites are Bill O'rielly and John Stewart. John Stewart is very smart for being a professional smart ass and it's always a good show. Sean Hannity and Bob Beckel go at it like cats and dogs. It's a good time. I have yet to see any real debate like this on MSNBC. It's all about promoting an agenda. This is the key differences in the networks. While Fox has a lot of Conservative hosts, they are not affraid to invite Anthony Weiner on rather than just show clips of him and have a panel bash him for an hour."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #30 June 16, 2011 Anybody here remember Chris Lee? Nope? Neither does anyone else. A GOP congressman who send a dodgy photo responding to a Craigslist singles ad. Gawker got ahold of it. Lee resigned. Why was WEiner treated differently? Because Weiner created a whole different situation. Lies. Attacking the truth teller. Getting others to attack. Lee faded into obscurity. Weiner won't for a long time. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #31 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuote Now that Fox News is serving as a AA ball league for GOP hopefuls, it's even hard to take their 'fair and balanced' motto seriously. I don't they care anymore (or ever, so long as ratings are good), but if they want to change that, they'll need to evaluate what they've done. Or if being a commentator is even an intelligent way to position yourself for the Oval Office? I guess you guys are kind of limited in your watching of the news networks. let me help you out. I'm not watching any of them. I read substantially faster than the TV can talk, and I can skip and back up at will. And you missed the whole point, didn't you? I wasn't asking for a comparison of Faux News to other fake news channels, I was asking how they can be perceived as remotely non partisan when GOP politicians exclusively go there for gigs and then run for President. The second question I asked was if anyone could actually succeed following that path? MSNBC clearly followed Fox's lead, but is anyone watching it? Is Keith Oberman running for President? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #32 June 16, 2011 Quote I'm not watching any of them. I read substantially faster than the TV can talk, and I can skip and back up at will. And you missed the whole point, didn't you? I wasn't asking for a comparison of Faux News to other fake news channels, I was asking how they can be perceived as remotely non partisan when GOP politicians exclusively go there for gigs and then run for President. The second question I asked was if anyone could actually succeed following that path? MSNBC clearly followed Fox's lead, but is anyone watching it? Is Keith Oberman running for President? So if fox news, CNN, Headline News, MSNBC, and such get there news from independent news reporters, Rueters, Associated Press, New York times and such, and you think that nothing they report is valid, where do you get your news? The Bloggosphere? There is a reliable source. And we all know Kieth Oberman isn't running for president, but you obviously missed that Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabie are not running for president either. Which Fox news correspondent in running in 2012 again?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #33 June 17, 2011 QuoteQuote I'm not watching any of them. I read substantially faster than the TV can talk, and I can skip and back up at will. And you missed the whole point, didn't you? I wasn't asking for a comparison of Faux News to other fake news channels, I was asking how they can be perceived as remotely non partisan when GOP politicians exclusively go there for gigs and then run for President. The second question I asked was if anyone could actually succeed following that path? MSNBC clearly followed Fox's lead, but is anyone watching it? Is Keith Oberman running for President? So if fox news, CNN, Headline News, MSNBC, and such get there news from independent news reporters, Rueters, Associated Press, New York times and such, and you think that nothing they report is valid, where do you get your news? The Bloggosphere? There is a reliable source. And we all know Kieth Oberman isn't running for president, but you obviously missed that Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabie are not running for president either. Which Fox news correspondent in running in 2012 again? Huckabie was running. Newt was running. Palin certainly thinks she is. As for the rest, we're speaking different languages. You're making up some interesting targets to knock down. Now, any chance you'll look at the two clearly stated questions, rather than making up stuff? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 June 17, 2011 Quote rather than making up stuff? While we're on that tack...got the clip from where Huckabee announced his run? All I can seem to find is from May, where he said he wasn't running.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #35 June 17, 2011 QuoteQuote rather than making up stuff? While we're on that tack...got the clip from where Huckabee announced his run? All I can seem to find is from May, where he said he wasn't running. you still got him as a 2008 runner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #36 June 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote rather than making up stuff? While we're on that tack...got the clip from where Huckabee announced his run? All I can seem to find is from May, where he said he wasn't running. you still got him as a 2008 runner. Not applicable to the discussion at hand, per your post above: "when GOP politicians exclusively go there for gigs and then run for President"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #37 June 17, 2011 I dont see any fox news anchor running for president, But I do see fox news hiring people from many areas of the political spectrum. there are several people on fox news that really piss me off with their views but that is needed to show how bad it could be if the left continues to control washington. The problem with the left is they look so bad they make the bad ideas of the right look good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #38 June 21, 2011 look what NBC did to our Pledge of Allegiance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #39 June 21, 2011 Quote look what NBC did to our Pledge of Allegiance Yep. The damn socialist that wrote it to begin with was clearly not religious enough. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #40 June 21, 2011 I assume that this is a reference to when “under god” was added. I know better than to draw this line….but what is some of the people here are always saying. “Slavery was legal at one time” Just because “under god” was added it doesn’t make it wrong, just as when slavery was legal didn’t make it right.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #41 June 22, 2011 Quote Quote Quote The RWC morons who whinge and whine about "Liberal Media" and "Liberal Media Bias" can now shut the fuck up, FOREVER. The proof that the corporate media in the USA is severely slanted towards the right wing is here in all its glory. Anthony Weiner appears to have been forced to resign due to the relentless coverage of his stupid behavior, lies, and using Twitter to flirt recklessly and inappropriately with consenting adults. No laws were broken, unlike David Vitter's actions. David Vitter patronized prostitutes and performed consensual perverted acts with them, in multiple jurisdictions. There has been no call for Vitter to resign. None. The acts that Vitter performed were ILLEGAL, and happened in multiple jurisdictions. Yet he was NOT forced to resign from the House.. Let me see if i have this straight... Vitter had consensual sex with a prostitute and therefore he should resign. Weiner sent unsolicited pictures of his dick to many women whom he did not even know , then lied for a week to the American people and the press . Yep, your right they are both similar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #42 June 22, 2011 >Vitter had consensual sex with a prostitute and therefore he should resign. Vitter broke the law. Should there be a double standard for GOP senators? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #43 June 22, 2011 Quote>Vitter had consensual sex with a prostitute and therefore he should resign. Vitter broke the law. Should there be a double standard for GOP senators? So you are on record as being in favor of prosecution of victimless crimes? Specifically, having sex with a prostitute? You think people should be jailed? How about marital infidelity? Many States still have laws on the books making it a crime and calling for time in jail. You feel people should be jailed for marital infidelity? How about possesion of small mounts of marijuana, toss them in jail too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #44 June 22, 2011 QuoteQuote>Vitter had consensual sex with a prostitute and therefore he should resign. Vitter broke the law. Should there be a double standard for GOP senators? So you are on record as being in favor of prosecution of victimless crimes? Specifically, having sex with a prostitute? You think people should be jailed? How about marital infidelity? Many States still have laws on the books making it a crime and calling for time in jail. You feel people should be jailed for marital infidelity? How about possesion of small mounts of marijuana, toss them in jail too? prostitution is not exactly a victimless crime. A pretty tragically high number are sex slaves. And senators are no more free to ignore laws as the rest of us, or are you suggesting otherwise? Anti infidelity laws are still on the book, but wouldn't stand up in light on privacy laws. As for pot, depends on the state these days. In CA, it's defacto legal if you're willing to brand yourself with a medical card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #45 June 22, 2011 >So you are on record as being in favor of prosecution of victimless crimes? You mean like illegal immigration? >You think people should be jailed? Well, definitely not if they are GOP senators. For the little people, yes, the law should be applied equally. >You feel people should be jailed for marital infidelity? Absolutely! And for being a pain in the ass, and disrespecting authority, and playing that rock and roll music. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #46 June 22, 2011 Quote>So you are on record as being in favor of prosecution of victimless crimes? You mean like illegal immigration? That's debatable.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #47 June 22, 2011 1. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm trying to get Billvon's position so I can use it against him in the future. Did you notice how slyly he avoided going on the record? 2. Having consentual sex with a prostitute has nothing to do with sexual slavery except that some prostitutes are sex slaves. It doesn't follow that all of them are.Do you think alchohol should be banned because some people over-indulge and become addicted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #48 June 22, 2011 Quote 2. Having consentual sex with a prostitute has nothing to do with sexual slavery except that some prostitutes are sex slaves. It doesn't follow that all of them are.Do you think alchohol should be banned because some people over-indulge and become addicted? "some" appears to be the greater majority. If some equaled 10%, then your prohibition remarks holds up well. But if it's 70-80%, then no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #49 June 22, 2011 QuoteQuote 2. Having consentual sex with a prostitute has nothing to do with sexual slavery except that some prostitutes are sex slaves. It doesn't follow that all of them are.Do you think alchohol should be banned because some people over-indulge and become addicted? "some" appears to be the greater majority. If some equaled 10%, then your prohibition remarks holds up well. But if it's 70-80%, then no. cite? I've never heard that high a percentage. Not saying it isn't true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #50 June 22, 2011 Marg recently posted a link to a Vanity Fair article. http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/05/sex-trafficking-201105 It doesn't talk about percentages, just that the non asian prostitutes may be no freer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
