kallend 2,146 #1 June 16, 2011 www.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #2 June 16, 2011 Quotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ The reason the US is such a great country is that we have the freedom to do things that may cause a shorter life expectancy, like smoking drinking and skydiving. The US spends more on health care for many reasons including free health care for non citizens and developement of most of the new drugs and procedures used in the world. We could greatly reduce the cost of giving health care by eliminating most of the stupid lawsuites that drain money from the system and remove some of the restrictions on insurance companies that restrict them from selling insurance nationaly. How many people could have been treated with the money the lawyers pocketed? To have the life expectancy we have with our destructive activities and the governments interference is really a tribute to the medical comunities abilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #3 June 16, 2011 Quotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ QuoteCounties with the highest life expectancies tended to be in the northern Plains and along the Pacific coast and the Eastern Seaboard, with longevity being highest in the states of Colorado... I'm sure it's not just coincidence that CO also has the lowest rates of obesity."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #4 June 16, 2011 Quotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ Thanks to BHO. There are some advantages to not growing old. That is my opinion as a 69 YO.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #5 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ Thanks to BHO. . What an ignorant comment. As a 69y/o you should be grateful that Medicare costs have risen only 57% as fast as private health costs over the past 40 years. The GAP between US life expectancy and that in every other western nation (all of which have some form of national health care) is increasing. It seems that governments (both ours and others) do a better job of cost control than the private health industry.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #6 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ The reason the US is such a great country is that we have the freedom to do things that may cause a shorter life expectancy, like smoking drinking and skydiving. Can you name a western European country where citizens are not allowed to smoke, drink and skydive?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #7 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ Thanks to BHO. . What an ignorant comment. As a 69y/o you should be grateful that Medicare costs have risen only 57% as fast as private health costs over the past 40 years. The GAP between US life expectancy and that in every other western nation (all of which have some form of national health care) is increasing. It seems that governments (both ours and others) do a better job of cost control than the private health industry. Everything is BHO's fault.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 June 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote www.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ Thanks to BHO. . What an ignorant comment. As a 69y/o you should be grateful that Medicare costs have risen only 57% as fast as private health costs over the past 40 years. The GAP between US life expectancy and that in every other western nation (all of which have some form of national health care) is increasing. It seems that governments (both ours and others) do a better job of cost control than the private health industry. Everything is BHO's fault. He really bit on that one didnt he!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 June 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote www.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ Thanks to BHO. . What an ignorant comment. As a 69y/o you should be grateful that Medicare costs have risen only 57% as fast as private health costs over the past 40 years. The GAP between US life expectancy and that in every other western nation (all of which have some form of national health care) is increasing. It seems that governments (both ours and others) do a better job of cost control than the private health industry. Everything is BHO's fault. For once you tell the REAL truth in your beliefs. Sadly you are not alone... there is a very large fringe group of whackadoodledoo's who really follow that for any and everthing the black guy in the White House does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 June 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote www.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ Thanks to BHO. . What an ignorant comment. As a 69y/o you should be grateful that Medicare costs have risen only 57% as fast as private health costs over the past 40 years. The GAP between US life expectancy and that in every other western nation (all of which have some form of national health care) is increasing. It seems that governments (both ours and others) do a better job of cost control than the private health industry. Everything is BHO's fault. For once you tell the REAL truth in your beliefs. Sadly you are not alone... there is a very large fringe group of whackadoodledoo's who really follow that for any and everthing the black guy in the White House does. BHO must have a time machine. The information came from ”newly released mortality data by age, sex, and county for the U.S. from 2000 to 2007,"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 June 16, 2011 Quote Can you name a western European country where citizens are not allowed to smoke, drink and skydive? In general, they won't let you buy the biggest fucking motorcycle on the lot with your's learner's permit. Instead you get a lawn mower engine. And that driver's test! they make you prove you know first aid! On the other end of it, they still seem to smoke more (at least verse California), and unless laws have gotten more conservative, I was able to freely buy beer in Germany at 16. Parents serving it to their children was not a CPS offense. But as always, this study of mortality is a poor attempt to show a failure of the American medical system. If we swapped our's with Europe's, both sides would suffer. Each is better tailored to its environment. It's not a medical care system that is going to keep Americans from overeating. Unless they actually manage to, tragically, create the weight loss pill. Nor is it going to do anything about the fact that Americans work more hours than anyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 June 16, 2011 Quote I'm sure it's not just coincidence that CO also has the lowest rates of obesity. it's the lack of oxygen! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 June 16, 2011 QuoteCan you name a western European country where citizens are not allowed to smoke, drink and skydive? Lower Slobovia? Maybe that's Eastern Europe, though.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #14 June 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ The reason the US is such a great country is that we have the freedom to do things that may cause a shorter life expectancy, like smoking drinking and skydiving. Can you name a western European country where citizens are not allowed to smoke, drink and skydive? Yep they do drink smoke and skydive, but we seem to do everything bad for us to an extreme that is hard to match by any other country. Also are the figures conmpared the same, do both use pre delivery infant deaths in the figures? Are the figures af all compiled under the same rules? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #15 June 17, 2011 QuoteIt's not a medical care system that is going to keep Americans from overeating. Maybe not, but one of the main differences between the two systems is one is more preventative and one is more reactive. I think the results of the study reflect that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 June 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteIt's not a medical care system that is going to keep Americans from overeating. Maybe not, but one of the main differences between the two systems is one is more preventative and one is more reactive. I think the results of the study reflect that. And I asserted that we have a system for acute care because we generally refuse the idea of preventative care. So switching to such an approach would not be an improvement for us, at least for for a full generation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #17 June 18, 2011 Quotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ There seems to be some question about whether the article is referring to an absolute drop in life expectancy--or merely a relative drop in the USA as compared to other nations. Nevertheless I've been expecting life expectancies to begin dropping in Western nations at some point. There are many social safety nets--not only Social Security but also private company pension plans--which have traditionally led to a relatively stress free life in the early part of old age if one is still in fairly good health. It seems to me that many of these safety nets "peaked" for my grandparents' generation and will be significantly less for my parents' generation and even less so for my own generation. If the quality of life drops in old age--which it certainly looks like it will soon--life expectancies will also drop. Some people will be smart enough to figure out a good plan for retirement on their own--but not everyone will be that smart and overall we'll see life expectancies drop."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #18 June 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewww.healthnews.com/en/articles/3wUnWml0f5$wewZQ5WEUYd/American-Life-Expectancy-Dropping/ The reason the US is such a great country is that we have the freedom to do things that may cause a shorter life expectancy, like smoking drinking and skydiving. Can you name a western European country where citizens are not allowed to smoke, drink and skydive? Yep they do drink smoke and skydive, but we seem to do everything bad for us to an extreme that is hard to match by any other country. Smoking and alcoholism are both far more common in France than in the US. You need to get out more.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
