funjumper101 15 #1 June 13, 2011 Why wasn't he forced to resign from the House, back in 2007? Hypocrisy, pure and simple. The same goes for John Ensign. David Vitter had a sex scandal that actually involved BREAKING THE LAW. Prostitution is ILLEGAL in Washington, DC. Prostitution is ILLEGAL in Louisiana. So is patronizing prostitutes. Somehow the righteous Right Wing Conservatives didn't bother to run him out of the House the way they are trying to run Weiner out of the House. The voters in Louisiana even promoted the sick fucker David Vitter to Senator. Weiner has yet to break any laws, but the corporate media and the RWCs are all frothing at the mouth to have Weiner resign. Where is the frothing over David Vitters ILLEGAL activities that are a REAL sex scandal? Weiner never physically touched another person. Vitter had repeated instances of perverted intimate contact with prostitutes, which were and are ILLEGAL acts. The stench of Rescumlican and RWC hypocrisy is overwheleming, once again. When do the RWCs plan to start running Vitter out? From Wiki - D.C. MadamIn early July 2007, Vitter's phone number was included in a published list of phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates, a company owned and run by Deborah Jeane Palfrey, also known as the "D.C. Madam", convicted by the U.S. government for running a prostitution service. Hustler identified the phone number and contacted Vitter's office to ask about his connection to Palfrey.[18][19] The following day, Vitter issued a written statement: “ This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible. Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there — with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.[20] ” The statement containing Vitter's apology said his telephone number was included in phone records dating from his days as a member of the House of Representatives.[6] Phone records show that Vitter's number was called by Palfrey's service five times, the first on October 12, 1999, and the last on February 27, 2001.[21] Two calls were placed while House roll call votes were in progress.[22][23] On July 16, 2007, after a week of self-imposed seclusion, Vitter emerged and called a news conference. Standing next to his wife, Vitter asked the public for forgiveness. Following Vitter's remarks, Wendy Vitter, his wife, spoke. Both refused to answer any questions.[24][25][26] As background, several news outlets reported that in May 1999, Vitter replaced Congressman Bob Livingston after Livingston resigned due to an adultery scandal.[1][27][28] Vitter said about Livingston's decision to resign, "It's obviously a tremendous loss for the state. I think Livingston's stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess", referring to Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky scandal.[29] Vitter will not face criminal charges due to the statute of limitations.[30] Vitter incurred significant legal and public relations expenses in his efforts to avoid giving testimony in the Palfrey trial and to respond to the ethics complaint. Consequently, his attorneys sought permission from the Federal Election Commission to use campaign funds to pay for these expenses.[31][32] The Commission, along partisan lines, couldn't agree whether funds could be used for reimbursing costs related to the Palfrey trial but did allow them to pay for expenses connected to the Ethics Committee complaint.[33][34][35] [edit] Canal Street MadamOn July 10, 2007, Jeanette Maier, the "Canal Street Madam", alleged that Vitter was a customer on more than one occasion in the 1990s, when Maier was identified by federal prosecutors as operating a $300 per hour brothel.[36] The Times-Picayune reported that "Maier offered no evidence or documents to support her claim."[37] A polygraph (lie detector) test was arranged for a New Orleans prostitute who claimed Vitter hired her and had sexual intercourse with her. The prostitute passed the test.[38] [edit] ReactionWhile the Louisiana state Republican Party offered guarded support,[39] national Republicans offered forgiveness.[40] The Nation predicted that the Republican Party would be in a "forgiving mood", pointing out if Vitter did step down, then Governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Blanco, a Democrat, would likely appoint a Democrat to take Vitter's place until a special election took place, thus increasing Democratic control over the Senate.[41][42][43] Republican Senator Sam Brownback told Bloomberg Television on October 5, 2007, that Vitter should be censured by the Senate. He said, "I think you could see something like that taking place. If you look at the actual crime itself and the discussion across the country– and as a Republican– this is bad."[44] In a similar vein when the Eliot Spitzer prostitution scandal — Spitzer being then governor of New York — hit the headlines, commentators contrasted the end-results: Spitzer resigned while Vitter stayed on.[45][46][47] In response, Jeff Crouere, a New Orleans conservative political commentator, called on Vitter to resign, saying he was an ineffective representative and reflected poorly on the state.[48] Other local political figures differed with Crouere. Democratic political consultant James Carville said the two cases were entirely different: Spitzer's situation developed from an active investigation and as a former prosecutor and governor he had powerful enemies. In contrast, Carville described Vitter as "Louisiana’s junior senator and nobody really knows him or cares that much about him," but concluded that, "if they paid with their own money, I don’t think either one should resign." The Louisiana Republican governor Bobby Jindal said, "Senator Vitter has already addressed this.... The people of New York can deal with the Governor of New York.”[49] Additionally, one gauge of the scandal's impact — local fundraising — indicated that Vitter has weathered the controversy well: first quarter 2008 finance reports show that he made, according to The Times-Picayune, an "impressive haul".[50] Another gauge, voter approval, indicates Vitter is, as of June 2008[update], still popular with Louisiana voters.[51] Following the June 2009 admission of Nevada Senator John Ensign that he had an affair with an employee of his Senate office, the Louisiana Democratic Party called on Senator Vitter to resign his leadership position (as a deputy whip) in the Senate, arguing that because Ensign had resigned his position as Republican Policy Committee Chairman of the United States Senate, Vitter should do the same.[52] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 June 13, 2011 How come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #3 June 13, 2011 QuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 June 13, 2011 Quote Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Louisiana politicians are required to have commited criminal acts."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #5 June 13, 2011 QuoteQuote Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Louisiana politicians are required to have commited criminal acts. Sorry, I SHOULD have known that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 June 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #7 June 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 June 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #9 June 13, 2011 I'd have to say that's up to the people he represents. Clinton was everyone's president in the US, Weiner just represents a subset of NY. Personally, I don't think he should resign, but he's sure lost some gravitas. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #10 June 13, 2011 >How come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? It's fun watching republicans try to justify their defense of Vitter in light of the Wiener scandal (and even more fun to say "wiener scandal.") Of course, if Wiener had been a republican, he would have sponsored a family-values anti-posting-your-wiener bill before getting caught doing that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 June 13, 2011 Quote>How come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? It's fun watching republicans try to justify their defense of Vitter in light of the Wiener scandal (and even more fun to say "wiener scandal.") Of course, if Wiener had been a republican, he would have sponsored a family-values anti-posting-your-wiener bill before getting caught doing that. Link "Sadly, the Internet is the predator's venue of choice today. We need to update our strategies and our laws to stop these offenders who are a mere click away from our children."Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #12 June 13, 2011 >"Sadly, the Internet is the predator's venue of choice today. We need to >update our strategies and our laws to stop these offenders who are a >mere click away from our children." There ya go. Now have him try to pass the Wiener anti-Wiener-posting act and he'd be a shoe-in (pants-in?) as a GOP candidate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 June 13, 2011 Quote>How come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? It's fun watching republicans try to justify their defense of Vitter in light of the Wiener scandal (and even more fun to say "wiener scandal.") Of course, if Wiener had been a republican, he would have sponsored a family-values anti-posting-your-wiener bill before getting caught doing that. I don't see any Republicans defending Vitter. It's the dems who keep bringing him up. It's pretty funny watching them defend Weiner by bringing up Vitter. The OP accuses the Republicans of demanding Weiner resign when in fact I haven't heard a single Republican demand that. It's overwhelmingly been the Dems doing most of the outrage. I'd just like someone to explain the double standard. Actually I'm tired of the whole thing. Can we get back to discussing what we are going to do about the debt, what our exit strategy is for Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen and all the other elements to this cluster fuck we have let the idiots in govt. get us into? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 June 13, 2011 QuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? Because everyone liked Bill; but Weiner's kind of a dick. That's a serious answer, btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #15 June 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? Because everyone liked Bill; but Weiner's kind of a dick. That's a serious answer, btw. It's also a very honest and truthful answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 June 13, 2011 Sex scandals are small potatoes. The real criminals are all the politicians who have created a multi-trillion dollar deficit that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #18 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. OK, so it's YOU that has the double standard. Understood.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #19 June 14, 2011 QuoteSex scandals are small potatoes. The real criminals are all the politicians who have created a multi-trillion dollar deficit that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for. On rare occasions I actually agree with you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. OK, so it's YOU that has the double standard. Understood. Actually, you don't understand. Oh, that's right, you think it was about a blow-job with Clinton. I forgot you are still hanging on to that old lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #21 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. OK, so it's YOU that has the double standard. Understood. Actually, you don't understand. Oh, that's right, you think it was about a blow-job with Clinton. I forgot you are still hanging on to that old lie. Ummm -- YOU brought up Clinton as a comparison in post #2 of this thread and then went on about a double standard. The GOP insisted on a Special Prosecutor for Bill's alleged crimes but now you don't want one for Vitter. Pretty clear case of weaseling and a double standard of your own there, mate.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. OK, so it's YOU that has the double standard. Understood. Actually, you don't understand. Oh, that's right, you think it was about a blow-job with Clinton. I forgot you are still hanging on to that old lie. Ummm -- YOU brought up Clinton as a comparison in post #2 of this thread and then went on about a double standard. The GOP insisted on a Special Prosecutor for Bill's alleged crimes but now you don't want one for Vitter. Pretty clear case of weaseling and a double standard of your own there, mate. I didn't comment on whether Vitter should be prosecuted or not there, mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. OK, so it's YOU that has the double standard. Understood. Actually, you don't understand. Oh, that's right, you think it was about a blow-job with Clinton. I forgot you are still hanging on to that old lie. Ummm -- YOU brought up Clinton as a comparison in post #2 of this thread and then went on about a double standard. The GOP insisted on a Special Prosecutor for Bill's alleged crimes but now you don't want one for Vitter. Pretty clear case of weaseling and a double standard of your own there, mate. I didn't comment on whether Vitter should be prosecuted or not there, mate. The title of this thread is "When does David Vitter get forced to resign from the Senate?" And then you immediately (post #2) brought up Clinton. Weaseling par exellence on your part.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow come the Dems aren't defending Weiner like they did Bill Clinton? I though what someone did in their personal life was teir own business and had no effect on their job performance? So why are they calling for Weiner to resign? Since you appear not to have noticed, Bill Clinton is no longer in office. Vitter is, and appears to have committed a criminal act.. Not the point. the OP demands to know why the double standard. So do I. So you want a special prosecutor appointed to look into Vitter's criminal behavior. OK. Nope, and I don't think Weiner should resign either. I want to know why the Dems aren't supporting him staying in office like they did Clinton. OK, so it's YOU that has the double standard. Understood. Actually, you don't understand. Oh, that's right, you think it was about a blow-job with Clinton. I forgot you are still hanging on to that old lie. Ummm -- YOU brought up Clinton as a comparison in post #2 of this thread and then went on about a double standard. The GOP insisted on a Special Prosecutor for Bill's alleged crimes but now you don't want one for Vitter. Pretty clear case of weaseling and a double standard of your own there, mate. I didn't comment on whether Vitter should be prosecuted or not there, mate. The title of this thread is "When does David Vitter get forced to resign from the Senate?" And then you immediately (post #2) brought up Clinton. Weaseling par exellence on your part. I asked why the Dems weren't supporting Weiner when they supported Clinton. Apparently, you just really like to use "weaseling" even when it's non-sequitor. Got some more words you want to put in my mouth? Now, that's weaselly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 June 14, 2011 I actually hope he stays He will/would make a great face/head for the one eyed moral position of the Democratic Party"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
