Cynthia Mckinney goes to libya

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Let me preface by saying I was in no way a supporter of our intervention in Libya.

That said there are orders of magnitude between simple dissension (a constitutionally protected practice) and actively supporting a terrorist state (again). Cynthia Mckinney has apparently taken it upon herself to appear on Libyan state (read: pro-Qaddafi) television to express solidarity against the allied forces.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/05/21/libya.mckinney/index.html?hpt=T2

Just the next installment in the life of the cutest little communist in congress.

Peace, love and hoppiness

[KidWicked 0]

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Let me preface by saying I was in no way a supporter of our intervention in Libya.

That said there are orders of magnitude between simple dissension (a constitutionally protected practice) and actively supporting a terrorist state (again). Cynthia Mckinney has apparently taken it upon herself to appear on Libyan state (read: pro-Qaddafi) television to express solidarity against the allied forces.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/05/21/libya.mckinney/index.html?hpt=T2

Just the next installment in the life of the cutest little communist in congress.

And?

Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..."

[Andy9o8 2]

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Just the next installment in the life of the cutest little communist in congress.

She hasn't been in Congress since 2005.

[therapist]
The real point of your OP is that you think she's cute. You yearn for her, yet she's so unattainable. And so you lash out; you cannot have her, so you seek to destroy her.

Stop thinking with your wang.

Pay the girl at the desk, please.
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Just the next installment in the life of the cutest little communist in congress.

She hasn't been in Congress since 2005.

[therapist]
The real point of your OP is that you think she's cute. You yearn for her, yet she's so unattainable. And so you lash out; you cannot have her, so you seek to destroy her.

Stop thinking with your wang.

Pay the girl at the desk, please.
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Bravo sir. I was thinking along similar lines.

Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..."

[JohnRich 4]

If she loves Libya so much compared to NATO countries, she ought to just stay there.

[muff528 3]

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If she loves Libya so much compared to NATO countries, she ought to just stay there.

I dunno. I'm willing to cut her a little slack with this one. Kinda hard picking which ones are the good guys this time.

[shropshire 0]

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If she loves Libya so much compared to NATO countries, she ought to just stay there.

Because she does not appear to hold the 'My country, right or wrong' stance she should leave... wow... so what about all the folks that don't agree with what your current government is doing... should they leave too?


It's been oft (correctly) stated on here that if you don't like the system ... campaign and vote to change the system ... is that to be changed now to "if you don't like what we're doing f***k off" ?

The thing about our 'flavour' of democracy is that folks can hold contrary opinions without let or hindrance

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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If she loves Libya so much compared to NATO countries, she ought to just stay there.

Because she does not appear to hold the 'My country, right or wrong' stance she should leave... wow... so what about all the folks that don't agree with what your current government is doing... should they leave too?


It's been oft (correctly) stated on here that if you don't like the system ... campaign and vote to change the system ... is that to be changed now to "if you don't like what we're doing f***k off" ?

The thing about our 'flavour' of democracy is that folks can hold contrary opinions without let or hindrance

There is different levels of contrary opinions...

1. Simple disagreement
2. Debating
3. Protesting
4. Active civil disobedience
5. Treason

Where would you classify hanging around with and supporting a terrorist?

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[shropshire 0]

Your country and mine ... have been supporting/arming 'terrorists' for years so don't even go there.

Our governments have (and will continue) to do more harm than this silly little girl.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Andy9o8 2]

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If she loves Libya so much compared to NATO countries, she ought to just stay there.

Because she does not appear to hold the 'My country, right or wrong' stance she should leave... wow... so what about all the folks that don't agree with what your current government is doing... should they leave too?


It's been oft (correctly) stated on here that if you don't like the system ... campaign and vote to change the system ... is that to be changed now to "if you don't like what we're doing f***k off" ?

The thing about our 'flavour' of democracy is that folks can hold contrary opinions without let or hindrance

There is different levels of contrary opinions...

1. Simple disagreement
2. Debating
3. Protesting
4. Active civil disobedience
5. Treason

Where would you classify hanging around with and supporting a terrorist?

As a matter of law, it is not treason. Period. I comprehend the emotion behind your feeling that she is being morally treasonous; but legally? Not a chance.

[billvon 3,090]

>Where would you classify hanging around with and supporting a terrorist?

A bad idea.

Do you think the person in the picture below is guilty of treason?

[shropshire 0]

ouch ... that's going to leave a mark

Of course, it's difficult to remove a speck from someones else's eye when you have a plank in your own

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Your country and mine ... have been supporting/arming 'terrorists' for years so don't even go there.

Our governments have (and will continue) to do more harm than this silly little girl.

Agreed. My point was there are various stages of protesting your government. At some point it's possible to cross a line where maybe you should reconsider your citizen ship of that country.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

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If she loves Libya so much compared to NATO countries, she ought to just stay there.

Because she does not appear to hold the 'My country, right or wrong' stance she should leave... wow... so what about all the folks that don't agree with what your current government is doing... should they leave too?


It's been oft (correctly) stated on here that if you don't like the system ... campaign and vote to change the system ... is that to be changed now to "if you don't like what we're doing f***k off" ?

The thing about our 'flavour' of democracy is that folks can hold contrary opinions without let or hindrance

There is different levels of contrary opinions...

1. Simple disagreement
2. Debating
3. Protesting
4. Active civil disobedience
5. Treason

Where would you classify hanging around with and supporting a terrorist?

As a matter of law, it is not treason. Period. I comprehend the emotion behind your feeling that she is being morally treasonous; but legally? Not a chance.

You are right, it's not treason yet. Right now I rank her around, oh, say, Micheal Moore, Danny Glover, or Sean Penn.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[shropshire 0]

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Your country and mine ... have been supporting/arming 'terrorists' for years so don't even go there.

Our governments have (and will continue) to do more harm than this silly little girl.

Agreed. My point was there are various stages of protesting your government. At some point it's possible to cross a line where maybe you should reconsider your citizen ship of that country.

True, but also consider the other side of the coin.... what about all of the Iraqis and Afghans that are assisting the coalition ... then surely they are being far more treacherous.

When does acting for the common good of all trump treason?

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Your country and mine ... have been supporting/arming 'terrorists' for years so don't even go there.

Our governments have (and will continue) to do more harm than this silly little girl.

Agreed. My point was there are various stages of protesting your government. At some point it's possible to cross a line where maybe you should reconsider your citizen ship of that country.

True, but also consider the other side of the coin.... what about all of the Iraqis and Afghans that are assisting the coalition ... then surely they are being far more treacherous.

When does acting for the common good of all trump treason?

That is the million dollar question isn't it? There is no clear line in the sand on this one, but when looking at a country the gauge I have used is the level of corruption and human rights violations committed by the government of that country.

Here in the U.S., as much as I may dislike our current government, we are still no where close to needing a rebellion. I would never go to a foreign country ruled by a terrorist and try to prop them up while talking shit about my own.

While it has it's faults, I believe we still have the best system around.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[shropshire 0]

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Your country and mine ... have been supporting/arming 'terrorists' for years so don't even go there.

Our governments have (and will continue) to do more harm than this silly little girl.

Agreed. My point was there are various stages of protesting your government. At some point it's possible to cross a line where maybe you should reconsider your citizen ship of that country.

True, but also consider the other side of the coin.... what about all of the Iraqis and Afghans that are assisting the coalition ... then surely they are being far more treacherous.

When does acting for the common good of all trump treason?

That is the million dollar question isn't it? There is no clear line in the sand on this one, but when looking at a country the gauge I have used is the level of corruption and human rights violations committed by the government of that country.

Here in the U.S., as much as I may dislike our current government, we are still no where close to needing a rebellion. I would never go to a foreign country ruled by a terrorist and try to prop them up while talking shit about my own.

While it has it's faults, I believe we still have the best system around.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Andy9o8 2]

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I would never go to a foreign country ruled by a terrorist and try to prop them up while talking shit about my own.

The true integrity of a nation can be measured in how well it can tolerate the most vociferous criticism, even by - in fact, especially by - its own citizens.

Nations with low integrity will feel threatened by it, and will repress it accordingly, while calling it "treason", "sedition", or "slander of the state".

Nations with high integrity will refer to it as "free expression", and will use it constructively (i.e., to improve), or at the very least will be un-fazed by it.