dmcoco84 5 #1 May 15, 2011 Now we need the same from Romney! One POS progressive down... one to go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #2 May 15, 2011 QuoteNow we need the same from Romney! One POS progressive down... one to go! Amen!! Lets keep ALL the religious idiots out of office."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #3 May 15, 2011 No... Religion is a good thing. Progressive... is the bad thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #4 May 15, 2011 Quote No... Religion is a good thing. Progressive... is the bad thing. Please refer to my sig line...So...who do you like on the R side next year?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 May 15, 2011 Quote Quote No... Religion is a good thing. Progressive... is the bad thing. Please refer to my sig line...So...who do you like on the R side next year? Its too bad that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a furriner.. otherwise he has the perfect consevatard qualifications these guys are looking for.. plus I hear he is looking for work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #6 May 15, 2011 So... I post about Limited (Jeffersonian Republic) government and Federalism and you say that a man who believes in the 12th Imam and desires to hasten the return of the great Mahdi... (which will destroy the Great Satan - United States) ... a man who wants Sharia Law globally, fits my view points. Are you just... bored? And I will be responding about Koch... I'm trying to finish a book I've been reading, and then I'll be able to post about that and more. And I just passed the National Registry Paramedic Practical examinations Friday, so I've been a bit busy, as I have said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #7 May 15, 2011 Quote Please refer to my sig line... Nnnnnno Enlightenment = Logic, Reason... and God. Quote So... who do you like on the R side next year? John McCain! I think we should give him another chance. Or maybe his daughter...? Cause she is, like, soooo smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #8 May 15, 2011 I like Ron Paul. He is the only man in government who makes sense. I believe he is a man with sound reason and logic. Others here will disagree. Date: 05/09/2011 by Ron Paul Last week marked an important milestone in the war on terrorism for our country. Osama bin Laden applauded the 9/11 attacks. Such deliberate killing of innocent lives deserved retaliation. It is good that bin Laden is dead and justice is served. The way in which he was finally captured and killed shows that targeted retribution is far superior to wars of aggression and nation-building. In 2001 I supported giving the president the authority to pursue those responsible for the vicious 9/11 attacks. However, misusing that authority to pursue nation-building and remaking the Middle East was cynical and dangerous, as the past ten years have proven. It is tragic that it took ten years, trillions of dollars, tens of thousands of American casualties and many thousands of innocent lives to achieve our mission of killing one evil person. A narrow, targeted mission under these circumstances was far superior to initiating wars against countries not involved in the 9/11 attacks, and that is all we should have done. This was the reason I emphasized at the time the principle of Marque and Reprisal, permitted to us by the US Constitution for difficult missions such as we faced. I am convinced that this approach would have achieved our goal much sooner and much cheaper. The elimination of Osama bin Laden should now prompt us to declare victory and bring our troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq. Al Qaeda was never in Iraq and we were supposedly in Afghanistan to get Osama bin Laden. With bin Laden gone, there is no reason for our presence in the region – unless indeed it was all about oil, nation-building, and remaking the Middle East and Central Asia. Hopefully bin Laden does not get the last laugh. He claimed the 9/11 attacks were designed to get the US to spread its military dangerously and excessively throughout the Middle East, bankrupting us through excessive military spending as he did the Soviets, and to cause political dissention within the United States. Some 70 percent of Americans now believe we should leave Afghanistan yet both parties seem determined to stay. The best thing we could do right now is prove bin Laden a false prophet by coming home and ending this madness on a high note. Tragically, one result may be the acceptance of torture as a legitimate tool for pursuing our foreign policy. A free society, calling itself a republic, grounded in the rule of law, should never succumb to such evil. At the very least we should all be able to agree that foreign aid to Pakistan needs to end immediately. The idea that bin Laden was safely protected for ten years in Pakistan, either willfully or through incompetence, should make us question the wisdom of robbing American citizens to support any government around the world with foreign aid. All foreign aid and intervention needs to end. Our failed foreign policy is reflected in our bizarre relationship with Pakistan. We bomb them with drones, causing hundreds of civilian casualties, we give them billions of dollars in foreign aid for the privilege to do so, all while they protect America’s enemy number one for a decade. It is time to consider a sensible non-interventionist foreign policy as advised by our Founders and authorized by our Constitution. We would all be better off for it."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #9 May 15, 2011 given that the constitution dictates no promotion of a religion by government, I would hope that any government leader follows the constitution and keeps their religion in their own closet. Just like we would expect them to also stay the fuck away from their own personal business interests while in office. Religion? BAD thing (for government) You want religion? Have it. You want it in government? Move to Afghanistan..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #10 May 15, 2011 Quotegiven that the constitution dictates no promotion of a religion by government, I would hope that any government leader follows the constitution and keeps their religion in their own closet. Just like we would expect them to also stay the fuck away from their own personal business interests while in office. Religion? BAD thing (for government) You want religion? Have it. You want it in government? Move to Afghanistan..... +1"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 May 15, 2011 QuoteSo... I post about Limited (Jeffersonian Republic) government and Federalism and you say that a man who believes in the 12th Imam and desires to hasten the return of the great Mahdi... (which will destroy the Great Satan - United States) ... a man who wants Sharia Law globally, fits my view points. Are you just... bored? And I will be responding about Koch... I'm trying to finish a book I've been reading, and then I'll be able to post about that and more. And I just passed the National Registry Paramedic Practical examinations Friday, so I've been a bit busy, as I have said. He he has GREAT Conservatard chops man..... He has positions all of you of the far right can love... no gays... good church goin man.... No way can you call him a RINO... like any moderate of your party gets called... or worse... as you have done so many times.. a LIBERAL... oh... you called them progressive.... how progressive of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #12 May 15, 2011 QuoteQuotegiven that the constitution dictates no promotion of a religion by government, I would hope that any government leader follows the constitution and keeps their religion in their own closet. Just like we would expect them to also stay the fuck away from their own personal business interests while in office. Religion? BAD thing (for government) You want religion? Have it. You want it in government? Move to Afghanistan..... +1 +2 Now you all can debate who's better a better canidate for pres: Larry, Moe, or Curly.One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #13 May 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotegiven that the constitution dictates no promotion of a religion by government, I would hope that any government leader follows the constitution and keeps their religion in their own closet. Just like we would expect them to also stay the fuck away from their own personal business interests while in office. Religion? BAD thing (for government) You want religion? Have it. You want it in government? Move to Afghanistan..... +1 +2 Now you all can debate who's better a better canidate for pres: Larry, Moe, or Curly. I think the debate will hinge on "who sucks less".(given that they ALL suck) Somebody wake me up when a candidate announces that they have no imaginary friends."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #14 May 15, 2011 Quote Somebody wake me up when a candidate announces that they have no imaginary friends. It is almost impossible to be elected to high office in the US without believing in an imaginary sky wizard :-(Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #15 May 15, 2011 QuoteQuote Somebody wake me up when a candidate announces that they have no imaginary friends. It is almost impossible to be elected to high office in the US without believing in an imaginary sky wizard :-( Someday...someday. At least we're moving in that direction."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #16 May 16, 2011 QuoteReligion? BAD thing (for government) Clearly showing... you know very little about George Washington. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #17 May 16, 2011 QuoteNo way can you call him a RINO... like any moderate of your party gets called... or worse... as you have done so many times.. a LIBERAL... oh... you called them progressive.... how progressive of you. Nope... Sorry. There is a big difference between a liberal democrat, and a progressive. Just as no one here could define small and limited government... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 May 16, 2011 Quote Quote No way can you call him a RINO... like any moderate of your party gets called... or worse... as you have done so many times.. a LIBERAL... oh... you called them progressive.... how progressive of you. Nope... Sorry. There is a big difference between a liberal democrat, and a progressive. Just as no one here could define small and limited government... I would say your pipe dream of a small and limited government might have worked in a USA of the size and consisting of a population of about 5.3 million in 1800 since you continue to bring up the guy who has been dead for 175 years. With the current level of our population as well as the worlds population in our current world... its a fantasy that is not going to happen. So.. welcome to the 21st century and not the 18th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 May 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote Somebody wake me up when a candidate announces that they have no imaginary friends. It is almost impossible to be elected to high office in the US without believing in an imaginary sky wizard :-( Someday...someday. At least we're moving in that direction. You think so? I see it in society - a bit, as society becomes more educated - but I don't see it in politics. I don't expect to see it in elective politics in the US any time soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #20 May 16, 2011 QuoteSomeday...someday. At least we're moving in that direction. Ummm... No. We are a nation dominated by believer's in some form of a higher power that brought about our existence, that is currently beyond our understanding. Tell me... what percentage of the population was involved in the American Revolution? Not the number of men that fought... the percentage of the population between the colonies, that was involved in the Revolution? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #21 May 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteSomeday...someday. At least we're moving in that direction. Ummm... No. Really? You don't think that the % of atheists is growing and the % of people who strongly identify as religious is declining?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #22 May 16, 2011 >you know very little about George Washington. Perhaps TK does know very little about him. But neither you nor TK knew him better than Thomas Jefferson did, who had this to say about his beliefs: " . . .When the clergy addressed Genl. Washington on his departure from the government, it was observed in their consultation that he had never on any occasion said a word to the public which showed a belief in the Christian religion and they thought they should so pen their address as to force him at length to declare publicly whether he was a Christian or not. They did so. However he observed the old fox was too cunning for them. He answered every article of their address particularly except that which he passed over without notice. Rush observes he never did say a word on the subject in any of his public papers except in his valedictory letter to the Governors of the states when he resigned his commission in the army, wherein he speaks of the benign influence of the Christian religion. I know that Gouverneur Morris, who pretended to be in his secrets and believed himself to be so, has often told me that Genl. Washington believed no more of that system than he himself did." Ain't it great that not even the first President of the United States had to pass a religious litmus test? A true testament to the wall of separation the Constitution builds between government and religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #23 May 16, 2011 Shamefully and Utterly Ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as: And as for your mystery documents, I think you're probably hinting at "Two Treatises of Government" by John Locke. Admittedly, Jefferson was a fan. However, Jefferson being a fan of Locke does not exclude Jefferson using the argument of men being created equal as a tool of rhetoric to piss off the King of England. The two are not mutually exclusive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #24 May 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteSomeday...someday. At least we're moving in that direction. Ummm... No. Really? You don't think that the % of atheists is growing and the % of people who strongly identify as religious is declining? Yes, that is the case. Given that the U.S has a representative form of government, I expect the trend to be reflected in our government also. If it hasn't already, I'll bet it does soon."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #25 May 16, 2011 QuoteYou don't think that the % of atheists is growing Doesn't matter. Quotethe % of people who strongly identify as religious is declining? Doesn't matter. Religion yes, God no. Doesn't matter either, considering... "What percentage of the population was involved in the American Revolution?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
