jaybird18c 25 #451 May 4, 2011 This is war people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #452 May 4, 2011 Because, after all, we know how accurate people are describing realtime events that have a lot of people and a lot of stuff happening. Like fatalities. And crimes they were eyewitness to. Just look in the Incidents forum for more examples of excellent reporting. Since there weren't any newspapers involved, and since it's (virtually) all skydivers in there, it must be good, right? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #453 May 4, 2011 Nope sorry Bin Laden is alive and kicking, OR he's only allegedly DEAD. after all we only have the word of that person in the white house. And with his refusal to show the photos of the demise of the worlds most wanted terrorist the story will never be put to rest. I fully understand that the North American public must be treated as children and be protected from unsavoury images, but the rest of the grown up world wants to be sure it's not just another political publicity stunt. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #454 May 4, 2011 Because photos could not be faked, right? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #455 May 4, 2011 Quote Because photos could not be faked, right? Good point. Look how they faked the moon landing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #456 May 4, 2011 Quote Because photos could not be faked, right? I get the feeling the only way some people could possibly believe he is dead would be to finger the bullet hole in the guys eye. Sorry guys.. but the hagfish are nibblin on that right now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #457 May 4, 2011 Quote Because photos could not be faked, right? No come on, most countries show unedited footage, or at least in the country I live in they do, you really think some thing as important as this your head honch is going to care who he offends, The burial at sea I can understand, and if true a good move. The DNA, well who's going to believe that, only the believers. Remember as most of you are so fond of saying. No video it didn't happen Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #458 May 4, 2011 Well, look at my last post in the "death photo" thread. That is likely as close as we will get."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #459 May 4, 2011 QuoteNope sorry Bin Laden is alive and kicking, OR he's only allegedly DEAD. after all we only have the word of that person in the white house. And with his refusal to show the photos of the demise of the worlds most wanted terrorist the story will never be put to rest. I fully understand that the North American public must be treated as children and be protected from unsavoury images, but the rest of the grown up world wants to be sure it's not just another political publicity stunt. or he was killed in 04 and ......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #460 May 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteNope sorry Bin Laden is alive and kicking, OR he's only allegedly DEAD. after all we only have the word of that person in the white house. And with his refusal to show the photos of the demise of the worlds most wanted terrorist the story will never be put to rest. I fully understand that the North American public must be treated as children and be protected from unsavoury images, but the rest of the grown up world wants to be sure it's not just another political publicity stunt. or he was killed in 04 and ...... And what? GWB AND Obama have lied about it since in order to keep the military industrial complex oiled with the blood of soldiers? (sigh) That is the road to crazy town. Anybody wanting to walk down it is more than welcome, but they need to understand what it is.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #461 May 4, 2011 Before they dropped Osama in the ocean, they wrapped him up with Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. Fact. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #462 May 5, 2011 Quote Quote Because photos could not be faked, right? Good point. Look how they faked the moon landing. Speaking of which.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4&feature=player_embedded"No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #463 May 5, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Because photos could not be faked, right? Good point. Look how they faked the moon landing. Speaking of which.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4&feature=player_embedded Oh em gee that was awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #464 May 5, 2011 QuoteContinuing to repeat the same claims about a "shoot to kill" order does not constitute additional evidence. No one has ever claimed terrorists have the same rights as Americans when they are in the middle of a battle. Once they're in custody, yes, but not while bullets are flying. Try reading up on the Law of Land Warfare. This story has really grown legs. What do you think happened during that 25 min. blackout? So now we have him as unarmed, a 25 minute blackout and the he's shot "resisting". Be honest, does this disturb you even just a little? Oh, and now we know they used stealth helicopters to try and get in without waking anybody up. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html What happened during those 25 minutes? How did an unarmed man lying in bed with his wife in the middle of the night, resist arrest to the point that the only option was to shoot him dead? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #465 May 5, 2011 Propaganda ... Lies supported by lies. We will never know the full truth and you certainly won't learn it HERE. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #466 May 5, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Nope sorry Bin Laden is alive and kicking, OR he's only allegedly DEAD. after all we only have the word of that person in the white house. And with his refusal to show the photos of the demise of the worlds most wanted terrorist the story will never be put to rest. I fully understand that the North American public must be treated as children and be protected from unsavoury images, but the rest of the grown up world wants to be sure it's not just another political publicity stunt. or he was killed in 04 and ...... And what? GWB AND Obama have lied about it since in order to keep the military industrial complex oiled with the blood of soldiers? (sigh) That is the road to crazy town. Anybody wanting to walk down it is more than welcome, but they need to understand what it is. It is all crazy town until we get a straight single story That is why I posted it I guess I figured you would see the sarcasm I guess not My bad "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #467 May 5, 2011 QuotePropaganda ... Lies supported by lies. We will never know the full truth and you certainly won't learn it HERE. You are correct but We could get something closer to the truth, minus what has to be removed, it a factual account was just given. But it looks like these stories are being looked at against a political advantage back drop. And it seems to keep changing and you have to wonder if they are trying to find which story, provides what they are lookin for. (note: not calling anyone a liar, it is just the changes in the story line are coming at a rapid pace)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #468 May 5, 2011 A lot of the "changes" to the story are actually just additional information. I admit there were a few changes to what was put out within the first few hours, but otherwise the story is pretty consistent. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #469 May 5, 2011 QuoteA lot of the "changes" to the story are actually just additional information. I admit there were a few changes to what was put out within the first few hours, but otherwise the story is pretty consistent. Ah You need to expand your news sources"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #470 May 5, 2011 Ah, you need to be more specific. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #471 May 5, 2011 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1660&bih=878&q=white+house+bin+laden+story&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq="America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #472 May 5, 2011 Wow, you know how to type something into Google. My point is that a lot of the "changes" were really additions or clarifications. The only thing that has changed were the initial reports that OBL was armed and used a woman as a shield. I can't think of anything else that changed from the initial story. If you have examples of actual changes, let's hear them. Maybe I'm wrong. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #473 May 5, 2011 QuoteWow, you know how to type something into Google. My point is that a lot of the "changes" were really additions or clarifications. The only thing that has changed were the initial reports that OBL was armed and used a woman as a shield. I can't think of anything else that changed from the initial story. If you have examples of actual changes, let's hear them. Maybe I'm wrong. Got through them already Wow, you are a fast reader Look You love your Obama I know that and that is ok But you saying the story line is fairly consistant and they just made adjustments reeks of self imposed blindness Refusing to see does not make you right"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #474 May 5, 2011 I've been reading the stories all along. There wasn't anything new in your Google search results. Obviously you don't have any examples of changes to the story. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #475 May 5, 2011 QuoteSo now we have him as unarmed, a 25 minute blackout and the he's shot "resisting". Be honest, does this disturb you even just a little? Not at all. I do find it disturbing the number of people (mostly republicans) who are upset that an unarmed mass murderer was killed by the Navy SEALS. And these are the very same people who were calling for his death before this. QuoteOh, and now we know they used stealth helicopters to try and get in without waking anybody up. Would you rather they gave bin Laden a courtesy wake up call first?"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
