Andy9o8 2
QuoteIf neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture?
This "argument in the form of a question" employs the usual silliness of presuming that we have reached the limit of all intellectual and technological development - therefore, as to whatever we cannot yet fully explain scientifically using present-day knowledge and methods, we might be able to fill-in the gaps with a spiritual explanation.
What horseshit. It's a disgrace to your education.
jakee 1,593
QuotePlease define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo.
Define what you mean by 'force'.
QuoteWhat physical law can possibly define or describe self awareness.
Define what you mean by 'physical law'.
QuoteIf neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture?
Because biochemistry is incredibly complicated. Nature has been working on this stuff for 3.5 billion years. Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.
rushmc 23
Hmmm
could the same be said about the climate?
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jakee 1,593
QuotePretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.
Hmmm
could the same be said about the climate?
Not really. As a species we've shown that we're actually pretty good at brute force and unintended consequences. Precision is where things start to get complicated.
rushmc 23
QuoteQuotePretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.
Hmmm
could the same be said about the climate?
Not really. As a species we've shown that we're actually pretty good at brute force and unintended consequences. Precision is where things start to get complicated.
So we got the climate all figured out but cemistry has been working on this for whay 3.5 million years??
Where was the climate then?
You defined the bolded and underlined part of your own post

LMFAO

if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jakee 1,593
QuoteSo we got the climate all figured out
No.
Quotebut cemistry has been working on this for whay 3.5 million years??
Where was the climate then?
I really am going to need that in english if you want a reply.
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Since you are the person with all of the answers. Please define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo.
There's no "force" and no "driving." To use words and concepts like this is a sure sign that you do not understand the theory of evolution.
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteSo we got the climate all figured out
No.Quotebut cemistry has been working on this for whay 3.5 million years??
Where was the climate then?
I really am going to need that in english if you want a reply.


No need
You would have no honest answer anyway

if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
maadmax 0
Not at all. If you go from promordial goo to Homo sapien sapien it doesn't take much insight to acknowledge that a lot of work has been done. If anything the forces of nature favor states that are unorganized.
maadmax 0
Define what you mean by 'physical law'.
Because biochemistry is incredibly complicated. Nature has been working on this stuff for 3.5 billion years. Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.
Force, like the physical forces that sustain the universe, ie gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces . Of course there is no proof of such a force. There is no explanation of why there is something as opposed to nothing. So dogmatic people who claim to know are wrong. Christians put their hope in God, I guess atheists put their hope in their loud mouths.
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Since you are the person with all of the answers. Please define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo. What physical law can possibly define or describe self awareness. If neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture? Why are so sure about things you have no proof for?
Ok, but first we're going to have to have a lesson in chemistry. Don't worry, it's not hard.
Take some oxygen and some hydrogen gas, mix them and introduce just the smallest of sparks and do you know what happens? Two hydrogen atoms will bond with an oxygen atom. In doing so it will release heat and the stable result will be water. It's simply chemistry and can't help itself from happening. It will happen as long as conditions are right and if those conditions are right it's absolutely going to happen.
Before I go any further, do you believe what I've just told you is true?
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