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What does?



DNA. DNA of millions of species of animals changes ever so slightly via natural selection every single day.

It doesn't require any sort of intelligence or designer to do it.

Compound that over millions and millions of years and it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that trivial chemistry involving just a few types of atoms brings forth an amazing array of life.
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I gave you MY definition. YOU can define it any way you want.



That simply does not tally with your earlier statements. You came into this thread saying Atheism is xxx" and then you've been getting pissy at every person who's disagreed with you.

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You've read somewhere that I care how an atheist describes his philosophy?



Read your responses to the thread. Either you care, or you're just trolling.

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Kinda like what you are doing?



No, because I'm not going around bitching about people telling people they're wrong. You are. While simultaneously wading in up to your nuts in threads like this telling people who disagree with you how stupid they all are. It makes for a pretty short game of spot the hypocrite. It's like a pig moaning about how dirty the farmyard is before heading off to happily wallow in shit for the rest of the day.
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Really? Well how lucky that natural selection is not the only factor in evolution.



Intelligent design is the major component.
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You can't lose money on every sale and expect to make it up in volume. I don't care how much you repackage your product or how long it takes you to sell.



I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's how Milo's whole syndicate worked in Catch 22!

But aside from business advice, is there anything relevant you'd like to contribute?
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Intelligent design is the major component...



In attempts to get religious instruction back into the class rooms through the back door, yes - but we were talking about evolution.

But since you've only just declared that you're incapable of comprehending science, I'm not sure why you're taking part?
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Really? Well how lucky that natural selection is not the only factor in evolution.



Intelligent design is the major component.



No. There is not one tiny bit that requires "intelligent design"; NONE.
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No. There is not one tiny bit that requires "intelligent design"; NONE.



Since you are the person with all of the answers. Please define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo. What physical law can possibly define or describe self awareness. If neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture? Why are so sure about things you have no proof for?

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Intelligent design is the major component

No. There is not one tiny bit that requires "intelligent design"; NONE.



Since you are the person with all of the answers. Please define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo. What physical law can possibly define or describe self awareness. If neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture? Why are so sure about things you have no proof for?



Ok, but first we're going to have to have a lesson in chemistry. Don't worry, it's not hard.

Take some oxygen and some hydrogen gas, mix them and introduce just the smallest of sparks and do you know what happens? Two hydrogen atoms will bond with an oxygen atom. In doing so it will release heat and the stable result will be water. It's simply chemistry and can't help itself from happening. It will happen as long as conditions are right and if those conditions are right it's absolutely going to happen.

Before I go any further, do you believe what I've just told you is true?
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If neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture?



This "argument in the form of a question" employs the usual silliness of presuming that we have reached the limit of all intellectual and technological development - therefore, as to whatever we cannot yet fully explain scientifically using present-day knowledge and methods, we might be able to fill-in the gaps with a spiritual explanation.

What horseshit. It's a disgrace to your education.

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Please define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo.



Define what you mean by 'force'.

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What physical law can possibly define or describe self awareness.



Define what you mean by 'physical law'.

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If neural tissue is all that is required to recognize ones self in the mirror, why can't self awareness be recreated in a neural cell culture?



Because biochemistry is incredibly complicated. Nature has been working on this stuff for 3.5 billion years. Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.
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Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.



Hmmm

could the same be said about the climate?
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Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.



Hmmm

could the same be said about the climate?



Not really. As a species we've shown that we're actually pretty good at brute force and unintended consequences. Precision is where things start to get complicated.
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Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.



Hmmm

could the same be said about the climate?


Not really. As a species we've shown that we're actually pretty good at brute force and unintended consequences. Precision is where things start to get complicated.

So we got the climate all figured out but cemistry has been working on this for whay 3.5 million years??

Where was the climate then?

You defined the bolded and underlined part of your own post:o

LMFAO:D
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So we got the climate all figured out



No.

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but cemistry has been working on this for whay 3.5 million years??

Where was the climate then?



I really am going to need that in english if you want a reply.
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Since you are the person with all of the answers. Please define the organizing force that drives evolution to generate more complex forms of
life instead of just random primordial goo.



There's no "force" and no "driving." To use words and concepts like this is a sure sign that you do not understand the theory of evolution.
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So we got the climate all figured out



No.

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but cemistry has been working on this for whay 3.5 million years??

Where was the climate then?



I really am going to need that in english if you want a reply.


:D:D

No need
You would have no honest answer anyway:D
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There's no "force" and no "driving." To use words and concepts like this is a sure sign that you do not understand the theory of evolution.



Not at all. If you go from promordial goo to Homo sapien sapien it doesn't take much insight to acknowledge that a lot of work has been done. If anything the forces of nature favor states that are unorganized.

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Define what you mean by 'force'.

Define what you mean by 'physical law'.

Because biochemistry is incredibly complicated. Nature has been working on this stuff for 3.5 billion years. Pretty arrogant of you to think we should be able to synthesize the whole shebang only 60 years after we discovered DNA.



Force, like the physical forces that sustain the universe, ie gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces . Of course there is no proof of such a force. There is no explanation of why there is something as opposed to nothing. So dogmatic people who claim to know are wrong. Christians put their hope in God, I guess atheists put their hope in their loud mouths.


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