quade 4 #1 April 25, 2011 Anybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 April 25, 2011 QuoteAnybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? I know nutheeenik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 April 25, 2011 QuoteAnybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? nope. Even before 9/11, Yahoo formed a partnership with AT&T to offer substantially cheaper than available DSL. But they were harvesting all of the user data for business purposes. The only part of this tracking revelation of note is that Apple saves this data for a rather long time, and even copies it to new devices. Expect hacks to quickly come that will obliterate saved data. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 April 25, 2011 QuoteAnybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? There was a local murder case a couple years back and the authorities were able to track the killers whereabouts by his cell phone. Doesn't seem like anything new.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #5 April 25, 2011 Paul, you're joking, right? mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 April 25, 2011 QuotePaul, you're joking, right? Maybe a bit, but it's certainly plausible. Think about how "handy" all this information is in terms of tracking "suspects." Also think of how "handy" things like National Security Letters are. People like Steve Jobs wouldn't be able to state publicly why they're doing what they're doing -- none of the tech companies would.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 April 26, 2011 QuoteQuotePaul, you're joking, right? Maybe a bit, but it's certainly plausible. Think about how "handy" all this information is in terms of tracking "suspects." Also think of how "handy" things like National Security Letters are. People like Steve Jobs wouldn't be able to state publicly why they're doing what they're doing -- none of the tech companies would. Better get Rhys involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #8 April 26, 2011 QuoteAnybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? Nah, I doubt it's anything that nefarious. It's business. They want to know where you are, what you're doing, so they can market to you and sell more stuff. Pretty much it. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 April 26, 2011 Quote Anybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? Can you elaborate for those of us who aren't mind readers?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 April 26, 2011 Quote Quote Anybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? Can you elaborate for those of us who aren't mind readers? You want the plausible conspiracy theory or just the facts?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 April 26, 2011 QuoteAnybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? OK, I'm in for a buck. Now prove it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #12 April 26, 2011 If you done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. Knock, knock. Uhmmm... yes? Sir, we're here from the DHS to install our latest counter-terrorist camera system in your home. SAY, WHAT THE FUCK!!!!! Sir, please step aside. Fuck you! I'm calling my lawyer! Sir, if you're doing nothing wrong, you should have nothing to worry about. This is BULLSHIT! Sir, you seem to not have a problem with the On Star in your car or the GPS tracking on your cell phone. There is a camera on every corner. Why then would you oppose to a camera in your home? Are you hiding something? Sounds like grounds to search. Enact the Patriot Act! Arrest this man!"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 April 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnybody want to take bets that this is actually some part of the Patriot Act or other such non-sense we've never been told about? OK, I'm in for a buck. Now prove it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I never said it was even going down that way. Simply suggesting it's in the realm of possibility. As part of E-911 there was a great effort to attach location devices to mobile devices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_9-1-1 Ok, that's a fact and unquestionable. The government does, in fact occasionally push harder and harder to make it easier and easier to track cell phones. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html Again, that's a fact and unquestionable. The government also has a tool it can use that was made available through the Patriot Act that can compel citizens not to talk about certain government programs and procedures. It's called a National Security Letter. They typically use this with the phone company service providers to look at the phone records and location data via cell phone towers of individuals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letter Again, an indisputable fact. What I'm suggesting is . . . it might be possible that the government has directed the equipment manufacturers to collect data as well and if the National Security Letter was sent to say, Steve Jobs, he'd be on the hook to attempt to explain it, but wouldn't be able to say "the government made me do it." I offer no proof whatsoever, but it certainly is in the realm of possibilities given all the other information. In fact, it's not even that big of a stretch of the imagination. But, no, I offer no proof whatsoever.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #14 April 26, 2011 Well you're no fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 April 26, 2011 Well Paul... I think we are ok until they start putting out the phones with the nan-thermite inclusions... THEN you will need to watch out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #16 April 26, 2011 Privacy invasion? There's an app for that!"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 April 27, 2011 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/27/windows_phone_location_tracking/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #18 April 27, 2011 Interesting.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
