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QuoteA nation founded in revolt against empire, a nation that nurtured the radical Republican response to the sin of slavery, a nation that confronted economic collapse and injustice with a New Deal and a War on Poverty, a nation that spawned a civil rights movement and that still recites a Pledge of Allegiance (penned in 1892 by Christian socialist Francis Bellamy) to the ideal of an America “with liberty and justice for all” is bereft of what has so often in our history been the essential element of progress.
That element—a social democratic critique frequently combined with an active Socialist Party and more recently linked with independent socialist activism in labor and equal rights campaigns for women, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, gays and lesbians, and people with disabilities—has from the first years of the nation been a part of our political life. This country would not be what it is today—indeed it might not even be—had it not been for the positive influence of revolutionaries, radicals, socialists, social democrats and their fellow travelers. The great political scientist Terence Ball reminds us that “at the height of the cold war a limited form of socialized medicine—Medicare—got through the Congress over the objections of the American Medical Association and the insurance industry, and made it to President Johnson’s desk.”
http://www.alternet.org/news/150683/how_socialists_built_america/?page=entire
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QuoteThomas "Tom" Paine (February 9, 1737 [O.S. January 29, 1736] – June 8, 1809) was an author, pamphleteer, radical, inventor, intellectual, revolutionary, and one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. He has been called "a corsetmaker by trade, a journalist by profession, and a propagandist by inclination."
Born in Thetford, in the English county of Norfolk, Paine emigrated to the British American colonies in 1774 in time to participate in the American Revolution. His principal contributions were the powerful, widely read pamphlet Common Sense (1776), advocating colonial America's independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain, and The American Crisis (1776–1783), a pro-revolutionary pamphlet series. His writing of "Common Sense" was so influential in spurring on the Revolutionary War that John Adams reportedly said, "Without the pen of the author of 'Common Sense,' the sword of Washington would have been raised in vain.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine
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Why do you care so much about us?
We don't care about you...
If only everybody just minded their own fu**ing businees, we'd all be just fine...
We don't care about you...
If only everybody just minded their own fu**ing businees, we'd all be just fine...
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
if you say so coreece...
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(meanwhile back to socialist america)
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QuoteWhy do you care so much about us?
We don't care about you...
If only everybody just minded their own fu**ing businees, we'd all be just fine...
some would say the exact same thing about religious beliefs being shoved down our throats so often in this forum..
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"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
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QuoteQuoteThomas "Tom" Paine (February 9, 1737 [O.S. January 29, 1736] – June 8, 1809) was an author, pamphleteer, radical, inventor, intellectual, revolutionary, and one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. He has been called "a corsetmaker by trade, a journalist by profession, and a propagandist by inclination."
Born in Thetford, in the English county of Norfolk, Paine emigrated to the British American colonies in 1774 in time to participate in the American Revolution. His principal contributions were the powerful, widely read pamphlet Common Sense (1776), advocating colonial America's independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain, and The American Crisis (1776–1783), a pro-revolutionary pamphlet series. His writing of "Common Sense" was so influential in spurring on the Revolutionary War that John Adams reportedly said, "Without the pen of the author of 'Common Sense,' the sword of Washington would have been raised in vain.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine
You have obviously never read "Common Sense". Since it is one of the most referred to documents by Glen Beck and he even wrote a book himself borrowing the name, I highly suggest you read it before your start claiming it was written by socialist.
Just a suggestion before you make yourself look really stupid....
I would never suggest "Rules for Radicals" was written for republicans....
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QuoteHis last, great pamphlet, Agrarian Justice, he published in winter of 1795, further developing the ideas in the Rights of Man, about how land ownership separated the majority of people from their rightful, natural inheritance, and means of independent survival. Contemporarily, his proposal is deemed a form of basic Income Guarantee.The US Social Security Administration recognizes Agrarian Justice as the first American proposal for an old-age pension; per Agrarian Justice:
In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity ... [Government must] create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property. And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.
Note that £10 and £15 would be worth about £800 and £1,200 when adjusted for inflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine#Common_Sense_.281776.29
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QuoteQuoteHis last, great pamphlet, Agrarian Justice, he published in winter of 1795, further developing the ideas in the Rights of Man, about how land ownership separated the majority of people from their rightful, natural inheritance, and means of independent survival. Contemporarily, his proposal is deemed a form of basic Income Guarantee.The US Social Security Administration recognizes Agrarian Justice as the first American proposal for an old-age pension; per Agrarian Justice:
In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity ... [Government must] create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property. And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.
Note that £10 and £15 would be worth about £800 and £1,200 when adjusted for inflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine#Common_Sense_.281776.29
And this is why colleges won't let you use wikipedia as a source.
If you have read the Agrarian Justice pamphlet, you would know that it's talking about Kings use of land ownership keeping power with him even after he dies. Thomas Paine wrote that he believed that a man's right to rule passes with him and that each following generation should earn it's place. He wrote this because of what the British royalty were doing to the world. This is also why our constitution was written the way it was. But leave it to you to allow wikipediia to tell you what to think.
Thomas Paine also write this:
"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. "
And if that isn't enough for you, here is some more food for thought:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_paine.html
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Kennedy 0
Don't bother him with the facts; he's already made up his mind.
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QuoteThomas Paine was in many ways the father of modern liberalism, and thus one of the most important of the founders of what both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson referred to as that "liberal" experiment, the United States of America.
Liberals, after all, founded our nation. They were skeptical of the power of any institution - be it corporate (the Boston Tea Party was an anti-globalization protest against the world's largest transnational corporation, the East India Company), religious (Ben Franklin left Massachusetts for Philadelphia during his childhood in part because they were still hanging witches in the outlying regions), or governmental (the "kingly oppressions" such as the power of a king to make war, referred to by Madison and later quoted by Lincoln). It wasn't FDR who first seriously promoted the progressive income tax in the USA: it was Thomas Paine. It wasn't LBJ who invented anti-poverty programs by introducing Medicare, housing assistance, and food-stamp programs: Thomas Paine proposed versions of all of these. It wasn't Jack Kennedy who first talked seriously about international disarmament: it was Thomas Paine. And Teddy Roosevelt wasn't the first American to talk about the "living wage," or ways that corporate "maximum wage" wink-and-nod agreements could be broken up: it was Thomas Paine. Even Woodrow Wilson's inheritance tax, designed to prevent family empires from taking over our nation, was the idea of Thomas Paine, as was the suggestion for old-age pensions as part of a social safety net known today as Social Security.
Paine thought that the best way to build a strong democracy was to tax the wealthy to give the poor bootstraps by which they could pull themselves up. He proposed helping out young families with the expense of raising children (a forerunner to our income tax exemptions for children), a fund to provide housing and food for the poor (a forerunner to housing vouchers and food stamps), and a reliable and predictable pension for all workers in their old age (a forerunner to Social Security). He also suggested that all nations should reduce their armaments by 90 percent, to ensure world peace.
http://blog.buzzflash.com/hartmann/10022
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QuotePaine’s ideas have nothing in common with the corporate apologists who attempt to twist his doctrines to fit their modern agenda. His treatise on the Rights of Man was the first great manifesto written in defense of what we now call human rights. It served as the bible for the English working class movement for over a hundred years. While he bitterly opposed taxes for support of monarchy and war, he equally forcefully fought for the taxes, loans, and currency reform necessary to support the revolutionary army and the normal civilian functions of government. He later went further and proposed progressive taxation to finance a visionary program of entitlements to food, shelter, and employment for the poor, social security for the elderly, and public education for children and youth.
Paine understood even in his day that human society required definite limits to property rights. “It is a position not to be controverted,” he wrote in Agrarian Justice, “that the earth, in its natural uncultivated state, was, and ever would have continued to be, the COMMON PROPERTY OF THE HUMAN RACE.” Paine’s view was that cultivation of land gave it an added value that should accrue to the person who cultivated it, or to one who inherited or purchased it. However, this created an unforeseen and adverse effect. “The landed monopoly has dispossessed more than half the inhabitants of every nation of their natural inheritance, without providing for them, as ought to have been done, an indemnification for that loss; and has thereby created a species of poverty and wretchedness that did not exist before. In advocating the cause of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right and not a charity that I am pleading for.”
Paine proposed a National Fund created with inheritance taxes to compensate all without land with a substantial payment at age 21 and an old age pension to commence at age 50.
http://www.lrna.org/2-pt/articles/v20ed4art5.html
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Pretty much EVERYTHING about the founding of the US from Columbus setting sail in 1492 to the settling of Jamestown to the Revolutionary War and including the Civil War has to do with capitalism and the exploitation of natural or human resources.
That doesn't make it right, but those are the facts.
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