shropshire 0 #1 April 19, 2011 'Advisors' boots on the ground http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 April 19, 2011 Quote 'Advisors' boots on the groundhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 Do they get shiny little badges.. now that they are joining the World Police?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #3 April 19, 2011 Quote 'Advisors' boots on the groundhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 This one's yours. We're sitting this one out until a clear winner is determined this time. Hope you pick the right side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #4 April 19, 2011 There's a shocker! Never saw that one coming. Who would have thought that limited military involvement could lead to us getting further mired in a mess of a war? Not really our fault; we had no lessons in history to learn from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #5 April 19, 2011 QuoteThere's a shocker! Never saw that one coming. Who would have thought that limited military involvement could lead to us getting further mired in a mess of a war? Not really our fault; we had no lessons in history to learn from. Us, as in US? The article was about the UK.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 April 19, 2011 Cameron's making a mistake. He'll get sucked in like Blair did, and the UK citizenry will roast him on a spit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #7 April 19, 2011 >Us, as in US? Us, as in the West. My next prediction - those "advisers" sent in to help will be attacked by savage, evil government troops and we'll* send in troops, just to protect them of course. They'll kill a bunch of savage, evil people in the name of freedom and justice. And then we'll be surprised as all get-out when Libyans start to think we're, well, sort of _invading_ them. (* = "We" as in "the West" again.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #8 April 19, 2011 I am really glad we are in the middle of an election. Not a chance of escalation from us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 April 19, 2011 QuoteI am really glad we are in the middle of an election. Not a chance of escalation from us. When was the last time the name "Canada" was synonymous with "military escalation"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 April 19, 2011 Quote Quote I am really glad we are in the middle of an election. Not a chance of escalation from us. When was the last time the name "Canada" was synonymous with "military escalation"? Duh...during the 'Great Poutine Crisis' of 1987!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #11 April 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteI am really glad we are in the middle of an election. Not a chance of escalation from us. When was the last time the name "Canada" was synonymous with "military escalation"? Afghanistan, Korea, WWII, WWI. We usually stay the fuck out of Aglo-American adventurism. Sadly the PM felt he needed to send a few planes on this one. War for oil makes no sense to us at all; we sell the stuff. I hope Gadaffi blows up every well in the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #12 April 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI am really glad we are in the middle of an election. Not a chance of escalation from us. When was the last time the name "Canada" was synonymous with "military escalation"? Afghanistan, Korea, WWII, WWI. We usually stay the fuck out of Aglo-American adventurism. Sadly the PM felt he needed to send a few planes on this one. War for oil makes no sense to us at all; we sell the stuff. I hope Gadaffi blows up every well in the country. A number of US citizens have the impression that the US has fought all wars on its own since 1814. Hollywood encourages this way of thinking.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 April 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI am really glad we are in the middle of an election. Not a chance of escalation from us. When was the last time the name "Canada" was synonymous with "military escalation"? Afghanistan, Korea, WWII, WWI. We usually stay the fuck out of Aglo-American adventurism. Sadly the PM felt he needed to send a few planes on this one. War for oil makes no sense to us at all; we sell the stuff. I hope Gadaffi blows up every well in the country. My point being (notwithstanding certain silly misrepresentations of my point), not that Canada has never participated militarily in conjunction with other nations, but that Canada has not been the main driver of policy in either the beginning of hostilities or military escalation. (The only exception is Canada's invasion of Switzerland; but so far they've managed to cover that up nicely, haven't they?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 April 20, 2011 Quote And then we'll be surprised as all get-out when Libyans start to think we're, well, sort of _invading_ them. (* = "We" as in "the West" again.) We is fine here - the US and UK are basically twin brothers. At this point, why shouldn't Libya treat the UK as an enemy in war? I don't see much of a distinction between troops and "military advisers" that are training rebels on its own soil. And over here, we've already had the White House call for his ousting, so we crossed the line as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #15 April 20, 2011 QuoteThe only exception is Canada's invasion of Switzerland I thought Canada invades Eloy every January. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 April 20, 2011 When bereaved British mothers are camped out at the door to No. 10 calling Cameron a murderer of their sons, it is unlikely he will ever live it down. For what? It's a huge fucking mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 April 20, 2011 Quote 'Advisors' boots on the groundhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 Limited air intervention, Advisors whats the next step? Pretty obvious really. Its only a matter of time before we have a significant deployment. 'Peacekeepers' or 'Humanitarian Monitors' no doubt. The problem of having career politicians who have never done anything else is that they are all desperate to have a legacy (By all means necessary). William is now talking about arming the 'rebels' which is clearly in contravention to international law.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 April 20, 2011 Quote Quote 'Advisors' boots on the groundhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 Limited air intervention, Advisors whats the next step? Pretty obvious really. Its only a matter of time before we have a significant deployment. 'Peacekeepers' or 'Humanitarian Monitors' no doubt. The problem of having career politicians who have never done anything else is that they are all desperate to have a legacy (By all means necessary). William is now talking about arming the 'rebels' which is clearly in contravention to international law. Come on... would it not be fun to see a return of these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Armoured_Division_(United_Kingdom) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 April 20, 2011 Now the French and Italians are doing so, too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13143988 They may some day rue the decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 April 20, 2011 QuoteNow the French and Italians are doing so, too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13143988 They may some day rue the decision. So much history ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 April 20, 2011 Quote Quote Quote 'Advisors' boots on the groundhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 Limited air intervention, Advisors whats the next step? Pretty obvious really. Its only a matter of time before we have a significant deployment. 'Peacekeepers' or 'Humanitarian Monitors' no doubt. The problem of having career politicians who have never done anything else is that they are all desperate to have a legacy (By all means necessary). William is now talking about arming the 'rebels' which is clearly in contravention to international law. Come on... would it not be fun to see a return of these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Armoured_Division_(United_Kingdom) They've already done Tobruk to many times already.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #22 April 20, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote 'Advisors' boots on the groundhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132654 Limited air intervention, Advisors whats the next step? Pretty obvious really. Its only a matter of time before we have a significant deployment. 'Peacekeepers' or 'Humanitarian Monitors' no doubt. The problem of having career politicians who have never done anything else is that they are all desperate to have a legacy (By all means necessary). William is now talking about arming the 'rebels' which is clearly in contravention to international law. Come on... would it not be fun to see a return of these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Armoured_Division_(United_Kingdom) They've already done Tobruk to many times already. Gaddafi isn't in the same league as Rommel.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #23 April 20, 2011 QuoteNow the French and Italians are doing so, too. They may some day rue the decision. News: "Libya rebels will receive $25M from U.S." http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/19/libya-rebels-will-receive-25-million-from-us/ I'll bet there are U.S. Special Forces there on the ground too. But it's okay for a democratic president to help Al Queda. Just not a republican one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #24 April 21, 2011 The whole thing is bizarre.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #25 April 21, 2011 QuoteBut it's okay for a democratic president to help Al Queda. Just not a republican one. Wow. I'm surprized you feel that way. I think it's not okay for anyone to help Al Qaeda. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites