RonD1120 62 #1 April 17, 2011 My spirit was uplifted, maybe your's will be as well. http://www.georgewbushcenter.com/lp/newsletter/2011/04/4percent-nd.php?utm_source=2011-04-15-NewsletterND&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=House President George W. Bush Launches the 4% Project April 12, 2011, marked the launch of the 4% Project at the Bush Institute’s inaugural economic growth conference in Dallas, Texas.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #2 April 17, 2011 That will be a very nice bonus for the top 1% that receives 25% of the income and owns 40% of the assets in the USA.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 April 17, 2011 If people had stopped listening to that old tosser when he was in office maybe the world wouldn't be in the state it's in now... Pat him on the head and put him in a home .... I hear there's a suitable one in Guantánamo ....... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #4 April 17, 2011 Quote That will be a very nice bonus for the top 1% that receives 25% of the income and owns 40% of the assets in the USA. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #5 April 17, 2011 QuoteQuote That will be a very nice bonus for the top 1% that receives 25% of the income and owns 40% of the assets in the USA. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. It must really piss you off that so many people pay lots of money to have people like me teaching their children.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #6 April 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote That will be a very nice bonus for the top 1% that receives 25% of the income and owns 40% of the assets in the USA. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. It must really piss you off that so many people pay lots of money to have people like me teaching their children. No it does not. I am a conservative, free market capitalist and, I strongly believe in the right to earn as much the market will support. What does bother me is that you and the other subjects, or former subjects, of the UK seem to think that it is OK to earn the money and then bad mouth the value system, freedom of choice and God given liberty that made it possible. That does bother me. It bothers me greatly.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 April 17, 2011 >What does bother me is that you and the other subjects, or former subjects, of the UK >seem to think that it is OK to earn the money and then bad mouth the value system, >freedom of choice and God given liberty that made it possible. You have often badmouthed parts of our value systems, including the progressive liberal value system that has allowed equality for blacks, women and gays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #8 April 17, 2011 Quote>What does bother me is that you and the other subjects, or former subjects, of the UK >seem to think that it is OK to earn the money and then bad mouth the value system, >freedom of choice and God given liberty that made it possible. You have often badmouthed parts of our value systems, including the progressive liberal value system that has allowed equality for blacks, women and gays. That is not correct. I support equality for blacks and women. I do not believe that the homosexual minority should have special privilege because of the choices they make. I also believe that I will lose that one.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,489 #9 April 17, 2011 Quotethe progressive liberal value system that has allowed equality for blacks, women and gays. I love how liberals think they have the market cornered on promoting equality. Even THE most Republican sector in the US Military's motto is "De Oppresso Liber."Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 April 17, 2011 I'll 'bad mouth' ANYONE who goes for profit at ANY COST. Plundering the worlds natural resources for the benefit of a few is crass stupidity. When a small % of the world population squanders the Largest % of resources.. I see a problem in that. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 April 17, 2011 Also, how will you feel when China takes over the World Economy and we are all Hoisted with your own petard? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #12 April 17, 2011 >That is not correct. I support equality for blacks and women. That's great! Just keep in mind that there was a time when you would have been labeled a progressive liberal for supporting that. Heck, many of the arguments AGAINST civil rights were based on Christian religious arguments. >I do not believe that the homosexual minority should have special privilege because >of the choices they make. Yes, you have stated that on many occasions, and I know you oppose the laws that allow same-sex marriage in some states. You have also stated your objections to the liberal values that support equality for gays. In other words, you think that it is OK to enjoy the benefits of living in this society and then badmouth the value system and the civil rights and freedom of choice that made it possible. Which is fine; you can badmouth anything you like. The catch is - so can everyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #13 April 17, 2011 Quote. Which is fine; you can badmouth anything you like. The catch is - so can everyone else. I do not think anyone is being restricted in this venue. Do you? Certainly, I am not the only poster utilizing this forum as a therapeutic encounter group.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #14 April 17, 2011 BTW, Have you not noticed that I am attacked even when I post positive or neutral messages?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 April 17, 2011 QuotePresident George W. Bush Launches the 4% Project April 12, 2011, marked the launch of the 4% Project at the Bush Institute’s inaugural economic growth conference in Dallas, Texas. Here's the key quote from the web site. QuoteWhat ideas do you have to help promote economic growth? In other words, he STILL doesn't have an actual plan. What a shameful, pitiful, disgusting scam to raise money for a 1% PAC from the bottom 99%.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #16 April 17, 2011 QuoteBTW, Have you not noticed that I am attacked even when I post positive or neutral messages? I can't say I've noticed any positive or neutral messages from you. That includes the OP if this thread. Mostly you spew religious right propaganda.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #17 April 17, 2011 Quote Plundering the worlds natural resources for the benefit of a few is crass stupidity. When a small % of the world population squanders the Largest % of resources.. I see a problem in that. You don't use gas? How do you get to 14,500 ft. Wave your arms real fast? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #18 April 17, 2011 >I love how liberals think they have the market cornered on promoting equality. ?? I don't know of any liberals (with the possible exception of Jeanie) who thinks that. Nowadays most republicans in most parts of the country support interracial marriage, women's rights etc. Ironically, they once attacked those very ideas as evil progressive liberal ideas. The fact that they now accept those things as givens is a good thing, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #19 April 17, 2011 Yes - but it's all a matter of degrees. Go do a search (if you need to) to find out who uses more resources per capita... I'm sure there's a league table out there. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #20 April 17, 2011 >I do not think anyone is being restricted in this venue. Do you? Nope! And I'm sorry that when other people speak their minds it bothers you. It's something that comes with the territory - especially since you do the same thing. >Certainly, I am not the only poster utilizing this forum as a therapeutic encounter group. That's probably the best possible use of this group. Often I think this place is just a necessary evil to keep politics out of the other forums, but if you (and others) get something therapeutic out of it, that would be awesome. >BTW, Have you not noticed that I am attacked even when I post positive or neutral >messages? I have noticed that. But then again, _everyone_ here is attacked when they post positive or neutral messages. Heck, I'll post something on a more efficient solar panel process, and within ten posts someone will be attacking environmentalists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 April 17, 2011 Damed tree huggers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #22 April 17, 2011 To get back on topic - I think it's great that GWB (and company) are starting a project focused on productivity and growth here in the US. Study of best economic practices could add to our understanding of the economy and ability to predict (and even influence) it. But is massive growth a good idea? The average growth rate in the US has been around 3.1%, and that amount has come at the expense of regular recessions, military expansionism and unsustainable borrowing and resource usage. If we can get to 4% average, but with more borrowing, resource depletion and military conquest, is that a good thing overall? Do we want bigger and longer bubbles if it means longer and deeper recessions? Or would the goal of, say, a steady and dependable 2.5% be a better one, if it meant we could also reduce spending, the deficit, the number of wars and the rate at which we're burning through soldiers, land, clean water, air, oil, coal, forests etc? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 April 17, 2011 Quote>I love how liberals think they have the market cornered on promoting equality. ?? I don't know of any liberals (with the possible exception of Jeanie) who thinks that. Nowadays most republicans in most parts of the country support interracial marriage, women's rights etc. Ironically, they once attacked those very ideas as evil progressive liberal ideas. The fact that they now accept those things as givens is a good thing, IMO. You really need to get out of Southern California and into the hinterlands a lot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #24 April 17, 2011 Quote Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, proselytize."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #25 April 17, 2011 QuoteTo get back on topic - I think it's great that GWB (and company) are starting a project focused on productivity and growth here in the US. Study of best economic practices could add to our understanding of the economy and ability to predict (and even influence) it. But is massive growth a good idea? The average growth rate in the US has been around 3.1%, and that amount has come at the expense of regular recessions, military expansionism and unsustainable borrowing and resource usage. If we can get to 4% average, but with more borrowing, resource depletion and military conquest, is that a good thing overall? But what if it is 10% for the top 1% of the population, and 1% for the rest of us? Would that make it better?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
