rushmc 23 #151 April 20, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I feel sorry for you I had no idea you had never been near a college and you are afraid of them Really, there is no need to be afeared of them Understanding sarcasm requires a modicum of intelligence. That explains why you don't understand the post you refer to. LOLoh the irony of this post! I threw out the bait and you swallowed it, hook line and sinker. Crank, crank, I'm tightening the drag, I've got a live one on the hook!!! So just now you realize you are one behind and try and save your ass with this?? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #152 April 20, 2011 >Over here on the right side of the U.S. it sounds like the cry of WA! That is, the Wussification of America. OK, let's see if you really believe this. Let's say you are running a counseling group for people who have money problems. One of them comes to you for advice. He is looking for a house for his family. His choices are: -a small house with a fixed rate mortgage he can easily afford -a medium sized house with a variable rate mortgage; as long as the rate doesn't change, he can barely afford it -a large house with a variable rate mortgage he cannot afford How would you advise him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #153 April 20, 2011 Quote>Over here on the right side of the U.S. it sounds like the cry of WA! That is, the Wussification of America. OK, let's see if you really believe this. Let's say you are running a counseling group for people who have money problems. One of them comes to you for advice. He is looking for a house for his family. His choices are: -a small house with a fixed rate mortgage he can easily afford -a medium sized house with a variable rate mortgage; as long as the rate doesn't change, he can barely afford it -a large house with a variable rate mortgage he cannot afford How would you advise him? Probably not the best example. As a counselor, I can only guide him in the decision making process. Therefore, make a list of the +'s and -'s for each possibility. Examine his income potential over the life of the mortgage. Now, the weasel clause for me here is that I am running a group, your terms. The next step is for each person to present their case to the group for group discussion. Then make a choice. Do forget, I am/was a substance abuse counselor. The group discussion is everything in my world. We never assume responsibility for client decisions. Personal example, I was unemployed in 1988. I borrowed $5K and purchased a home with an ARM. I worked various jobs, including professional parachutist, made my mortgage payments on time. In 1998, I sold it and cleared $29K. I purchased the house I am in now, also with an ARM. Before the real estate bust in was worth $250K. I had faith in the beginning that the Lord would provide a way. He has always provided income to make the payments and put food on the table. Even in the face of long periods of unemployment do to program closures by the federal government. So, I still do not understand what this has to do with President Bush encouraging the young people at SMU.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #154 April 20, 2011 QuoteSo, I still do not understand what this has to do with President Bush encouraging the young people at SMU. It doesn't - he's trying to get you to commit to a specific answer so he can 'gotcha' on one thing or another.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #155 April 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo, I still do not understand what this has to do with President Bush encouraging the young people at SMU. It doesn't - he's trying to get you to commit to a specific answer so he can 'gotcha' on one thing or another. Thank you for the validating support.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #156 April 20, 2011 >As a counselor, I can only guide him in the decision making process. Of course. What would you suggest he consider? Would you suggest that he consider his ability to afford the home he is planning to purchase, and that he should discuss that with the group? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #157 April 20, 2011 Bill, isn't it obvious? He should advise the man to buy the house he can't afford. That way the man will work harder to try to pay for it and even if he fails, ends up bankrupt and homeless, he's made "progress."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #158 April 21, 2011 Quote>As a counselor, I can only guide him in the decision making process. Of course. What would you suggest he consider? Would you suggest that he consider his ability to afford the home he is planning to purchase, and that he should discuss that with the group? I thought I made it clear. I can't "advise" the client to choose any of the alternatives. I can only guide him on "how" to decide. My job is to ask questions, not to give answers. Your example requires a credit counselor.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #159 April 21, 2011 Sounds like you claim the knowledge but shrug the responsibility. Weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #160 April 21, 2011 QuoteSounds like you claim the knowledge but shrug the responsibility. Weak. That is the whole point. In my field, the Dept of Children and Families requires that we never assume responsibility for the client. We teach them to accept personal responsibility by making their own decisions. You are just ignorant of how the social service system works, at least in FL.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #161 April 22, 2011 Quote Quote Just about everyone is political in one way or another. The game show Survivor is all about interpersonal politics. And yes, college faculties are highly political in that way -- all the jockeying for tenure, publication, and research facilities and funding. But that doesn't mean that they base decisions on whether someone has a D or an R after their name. There are politics in schools (ask any kid about who's popular and who isn't). Do you think that's based on party affiliation? Wendy P. There is absolutley no doubt that universities are left leaning in general This is not a debatable fact What do you expect from them good smart edgamacated people?? Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
