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President George W. Bush Launches the 4% Project

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The Bible is clear about the sin of homosexuality.



I thought the rules in "The Old Testament" didn't matter when you consider the "New." That Jesus FORGIVES all sins. Indeed that's why he died on the cross.

Further, I think one could make a compelling argument about the sexuality of a 33-year-old man of the time never taking a wife and surrounding himself with male followers.

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>So let me get this straight. If I was attending UC Berkley, and I submitted a Thesis
>paper entitled "Bush was Right" and I had a well documented, well thought out paper
>with all of the appropriate grammar I wouldn't get an automatic "F"?

If it was a course in contemporary politics - correct, you would not automatically get an F.

If you tried to do that in fulfillment of requirements for a master's in electrical engineering - you'd (rightly) get an F.



It's puff-puff-give... Stop bogarting....:ph34r:

You know damn well that would get you an "F" in contemporary politics. The very nature of the paper goes against their indoctrination doctrine, comrade Billvionovich....:ph34r:

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You know damn well that would get you an "F" in contemporary politics. The very nature of the paper goes against their indoctrination doctrine, comrade Billvionovich....:ph34r:

No thinking for your self, you must only think what we tell you. Your teacher knows best.



Actually, for most good instructors I've ever met, if you can make a compelling and reasoned argument against the status quo, one backed up with facts, that usually earns their respect far more than simply a rote parroting back of theories.

I'd say that if the proposed paper had those qualities, it would most definitely not get any sort of "F" based on the topic.
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Your hyperbole is your example's weak point. If, rather, you'd suggested that you might be debited a grade or so if graded by a liberal professor, it might have rung plausible.

You need work on your presentation. Make an appointment with my TA.

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This thread is actually about GWB encouraging young leaders to pursue a 4% economic growth for America. Swing over to the jclalor thread, more apropos.

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>This thread is actually about GWB encouraging young leaders to pursue a 4%
>economic growth for America.

Yes, and that's the part that worries me the most. Wanting to grow that fast gets us Enron and the real estate bubble; those are the only cases where we significantly exceed the 3% average US economic growth. I think a goal of _steady_ growth at some lower rate (2.5%?) would be much better for America overall.

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Show me his released GPA and I will then make a decision

So you're saying you don't trust Columbia in the 1980's, following a long-established process?

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No
I dont trust anything that has political attachments

Including colleges

If and when the GPA records are released we will know

Until then

we dont



Them colleges are WICKED scary when you have never been near one. Those folks at them places actually work hard to learn and understand stuff. That goes against EVERYTHING that makes someone a good citizen. You simply cant be questioning anything you see or hear on Faux news, read on Newsmax and Breitbart, or Lush Rimjob's website. Those are some real nice down home kinda folks that just don't lie. Never...

And they have no political agenda at all. None. Totally non-partisan.

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That is not correct. I support equality for blacks



Interesting, considering that thread you started a while back honoring some anniversary of the Confederate army that quickly got deleted by some mod.

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>This thread is actually about GWB encouraging young leaders to pursue a 4%
>economic growth for America.

Yes, and that's the part that worries me the most. Wanting to grow that fast gets us Enron and the real estate bubble; those are the only cases where we significantly exceed the 3% average US economic growth. I think a goal of _steady_ growth at some lower rate (2.5%?) would be much better for America overall.



My take on that is, leadership in action. A leader encourages people to reach beyond their grasp. GWB made that point in so many words. Aim high, you may not make it but you will be higher than the average.
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That is not correct. I support equality for blacks



Interesting, considering that thread you started a while back honoring some anniversary of the Confederate army that quickly got deleted by some mod.



Not me pal. I checked my records. I keep stats on all threads I originate. No reference to that subject on my spreadsheet.
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A leader encourages people to reach beyond their grasp.



No. That's just stupid.

A true leader encourages people to work toward what is just at the very edge of one's grasp. Something that is achievable if everyone cooperates.

Setting a goal outside of what is actually possible is a sign of foolishness and brings into question whether or not the person making the goal has a grasp of reality.
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>A leader encourages people to reach beyond their grasp.

Borrow more than they should to get the big return? Trade on margin to make more money? Get the big house with a pool instead of one they can afford? Eat more than is good for them? Favor greed over restraint?

Trying to get massive returns got us Bernie Madoff. A good friend of mine invested a lot of money with him, and often talked about how she got close to 10% returns, year after year. Heck, if that 4% goal is a good one, Madoff was a better leader by two!

But in the end, do we need more Bernie Madoffs, or more people with more reasonable goals?

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Your hyperbole is your example's weak point. If, rather, you'd suggested that you might be debited a grade or so if graded by a liberal professor, it might have rung plausible.



yes, he would have done well to stick within the bounds of plausibility. As a political science graduate of Cal, I know that his premise is decided false. We're talking about what is traditionally the highest rated polisci program in the country. It wouldn't get that status an a left wing evangelical department.

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>A leader encourages people to reach beyond their grasp.

Borrow more than they should to get the big return? Trade on margin to make more money? Get the big house with a pool instead of one they can afford? Eat more than is good for them? Favor greed over restraint?

Trying to get massive returns got us Bernie Madoff. A good friend of mine invested a lot of money with him, and often talked about how she got close to 10% returns, year after year. Heck, if that 4% goal is a good one, Madoff was a better leader by two!

But in the end, do we need more Bernie Madoffs, or more people with more reasonable goals?



Why do assume the gain is achieved illegally or irresponsibly?
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>A leader encourages people to reach beyond their grasp.

Borrow more than they should to get the big return? Trade on margin to make more money? Get the big house with a pool instead of one they can afford? Eat more than is good for them? Favor greed over restraint?

Trying to get massive returns got us Bernie Madoff. A good friend of mine invested a lot of money with him, and often talked about how she got close to 10% returns, year after year. Heck, if that 4% goal is a good one, Madoff was a better leader by two!

But in the end, do we need more Bernie Madoffs, or more people with more reasonable goals?



Why do assume the gain is achieved illegally or irresponsibly?



Past performance by those like George and those who support him???

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Why do assume the gain is achieved illegally or irresponsibly?



Past performance by those like George and those who support him???



The video seemed to indicate the speech was presented to students and professors at SMU. At least he announced he was on their campus.
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>Why do assume the gain is achieved illegally or irresponsibly?

I don't. Someone can get a huge house with a big ARM mortgage without doing anything illegal. A broker can trade on margin without doing anything irresponsible. Eating too much is neither immoral nor irresponsible. Madoff didn't start _out_ doing anything illegal.

Doesn't mean any of them are good ideas. The best ideas are often pretty boring - don't spend more than you make, eat sensibly and exercise, save money for the future. They also don't get you 4% growth.

How do you get 4%+ growth personally? Invest in risky markets. Buy a massive house, flip it, and then buy an even more massive house. Trade on margin.

How do you get 4% growth in the GDP? Spend on public works projects to get employment up. Spend on wars to get access to resources. Cut taxes to stimulate business. Cut down every forest we have, drain every well dry, empty every mine we have. In other words, do what we've been doing to rack up trillions in debt, just more so.

So the question you have to ask yourself is - is it worth it in the long run? Or should the goal be long term stability and sustainability, with a more reasonable level of growth?

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Why do assume the gain is achieved illegally or irresponsibly?



Past performance by those like George and those who support him???



The video seemed to indicate the speech was presented to students and professors at SMU. At least he announced he was on their campus.



I was referring to the past performance of George Bush in business and many of his supporters.. like the Enron guys...

It seems to me had people paid attention to his track record in business.. the country might have tanked quite like it did when he and his buddies ran roughshod with the countries economic foundation

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>You know damn well that would get you an "F" in contemporary politics. . . .No
>thinking for your self, you must only think what we tell you. Your teacher knows best.

Methinks you've been listening to too much Rush.



Just to be clear, this sub-thread came out of my comments on the National Academies report (post #77, this thread), and contrary to what some ignorant posters appear to believe based on what they have posted subsequent to that, the National Academies are NOT colleges or universities. Many members are in fact industrialists, physicians, surgeons, engineers, etc. The National Academies are very definitely non partisan, and were chartered by Congress.
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>You know damn well that would get you an "F" in contemporary politics. . . .No
>thinking for your self, you must only think what we tell you. Your teacher knows best.

Methinks you've been listening to too much Rush.



Just to be clear, this sub-thread came out of my comments on the National Academies report (post #77, this thread), and contrary to what some ignorant posters appear to believe based on what they have posted subsequent to that, the National Academies are NOT colleges or universities. Many members are in fact industrialists, physicians, surgeons, engineers, etc. The National Academies are very definitely non partisan, and were chartered by Congress.


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Members of NPR are industrialists, physicians, surgeons, engineers, etc?

What evidence do you have of the partisanship of, say, the National Academy of Engineering or The Institute of Medicine?
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Members of NPR are industrialists, physicians, surgeons, engineers, etc?

What evidence do you have of the partisanship of, say, the National Academy of Engineering or The Institute of Medicine?



My point is just because something is charted by congress doesn't make it non-partisan.

Government unions? Partisan.
NPR? Partisan.

and lost but not least, Institute of medicine? Who do you think stood in front of the president on the White House lawn dressed in lab coats pushing his health care bill? Not doctors from actual hospitals. They work in the real world and know what his plan will eventually do to the health care system.

When you need the naive and indoctrinated, look no further than a college campus.
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