President George W. Bush Launches the 4% Project

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I'd be surprised if Shropshire has either enough money or enough clout to get into an Ivy League school.

They don't guarantee admission, but they can help. Anyone who's been to college knows that at pretty much any college, there are easier and harder classes once you get in.

I'd guess, then, that you think that Obama is even better by Ivy League criteria, since he not only went there, but he made better grades. And he probably didn't have either money or connections to help him get in, either.

Wendy P.

O was not a legacy either... he actually had to work for it.

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I teach ENGINEERING, in case you have forgotten, not PoliSci.

which is a relief. Engineering students don't give a dry fart about political concerns - they're too buried in study to even think about that until they become tax payers.

Which is probably why, according to a National Academies report published last fall, the US ranks 27th of 29 developed nations in the fraction of science and engineering graduates it produces. In aggregate US students find it easier to study journalism, cinema, womens' studies, etc., than the hard sciences.

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I teach ENGINEERING, in case you have forgotten, not PoliSci.

which is a relief. Engineering students don't give a dry fart about political concerns - they're too buried in study to even think about that until they become tax payers.

Which is probably why, according to a National Academies report published last fall, the US ranks 27th of 29 developed nations in the fraction of science and engineering graduates it produces. In aggregate US students find it easier to study journalism, cinema, womens' studies, etc., than the hard sciences.

eh, I'll take quality over quantity (esp with regards to India).

Like I said, stick to engineering.

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Magna Cum Laude is Columbia's acknowledgment that he graduated with a better than 3.5 at the lowest (probably higher, but the article I read didn't specify for before 2009). Colleges do it either on relative rank or on GPA -- it's their choice. But they don't willy-nilly award it to someone because they like him. There are plenty of other awards to give for that.

GWB's GPA was not high enough to get a cum laude; therefore, it was lower.

The Harvard Law Review is the second-most cited law review in the country. It's pretty serious. Long before anyone thought he'd run for President of the US as an evil Democrat, he was elected to President of the Harvard Law Review.

You can say lots of things about Obama, but it's ludicrous to say there's doubt about whether he did better in college and graduate school/law school.

Wendy P.

Isn't there considerable controversy regarding GPA as a predictor of success?

All of BHO's records seem to be unknown. It appears he is a totally created figurehead by G. Soros et.al.

G.W. Bush was an average student, and faired a little higher than J. Kerry. Both of them were above A. Gore.

R. Limbaugh and G. Beck did not attend college. Well, Limbaugh dropped out as a freshman.

I matriculated X3 and question the path at this stage of life. Education in and of itself don't mean squat. However, going to college will teach you how to think. The downside is that thinking is an individual activity, that is microcosmic, and does not necessarily jibe with the macrocosmic world.

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I teach ENGINEERING, in case you have forgotten, not PoliSci.

which is a relief. Engineering students don't give a dry fart about political concerns - they're too buried in study to even think about that until they become tax payers.

Which is probably why, according to a National Academies report published last fall, the US ranks 27th of 29 developed nations in the fraction of science and engineering graduates it produces. In aggregate US students find it easier to study journalism, cinema, womens' studies, etc., than the hard sciences.

eh, I'll take quality over quantity (esp with regards to India).

Like I said, stick to engineering.

I'm sure you know better than the National Academies.

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I'm sure you know better than the National Academies.

I lack their partisan bias, yes.

Again, stick to engineering, not politics.

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I'm sure you know better than the National Academies.

I lack their partisan bias, yes.

Again, stick to engineering, not politics.

Nice display of ignorance there, kelpdiver. The National Academies are most definitely non-partisan.

www.nationalacademies.org/

To meet the government's urgent need for an independent adviser on scientific matters, President Lincoln signed a congressional charter forming the National Academy of Sciences in 1863 to "investigate, examine, experiment, and report upon any subject of science." As science began to play an ever-increasing role in national priorities and public life, the National Academy of Sciences eventually expanded to include the National Research Council in 1916, the National Academy of Engineering in 1964, and the Institute of Medicine in 1970.

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>If and when the GPA records are released we will know

Well, we already do know; you'd never accept it. You'd just claim that the reported GPA's were fraudulent, just as you claim they are lying now.

No, not really
I would except the released records

Got a link?

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>If and when the GPA records are released we will know

Well, we already do know; you'd never accept it. You'd just claim that the reported GPA's were fraudulent, just as you claim they are lying now.

No, not really
I would except the released records

Got a link?

From what would you except them?

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Nice display of ignorance there, kelpdiver. The National Academies are most definitely non-partisan.

at risk of sounding like you or other broken records:

"stick to engineering, not politics."

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Nice display of ignorance there, kelpdiver. The National Academies are most definitely non-partisan.

at risk of sounding like you or other broken records:

"stick to engineering, not politics."

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Renaissance men make you uncomfortable, don't they? Pity.

just liars.

Committees of academics are among the most petty, most political people on earth.

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Just about everyone is political in one way or another. The game show Survivor is all about interpersonal politics.

And yes, college faculties are highly political in that way -- all the jockeying for tenure, publication, and research facilities and funding.

But that doesn't mean that they base decisions on whether someone has a D or an R after their name. There are politics in schools (ask any kid about who's popular and who isn't). Do you think that's based on party affiliation?

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Committees of academics are among the most petty, most political people on earth.

Even if true, this would not make the organization not non-partisan.

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But that doesn't mean that they base decisions on whether someone has a D or an R after their name. There are politics in schools (ask any kid about who's popular and who isn't). Do you think that's based on party affiliation?

politics and bias is about far more than D or R.

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are children. OK, that explains some of your views

So, how is that not playing the player?

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>If and when the GPA records are released we will know

Well, we already do know; you'd never accept it. You'd just claim that the reported GPA's were fraudulent, just as you claim they are lying now.

No, not really
I would except the released records

Got a link?

rushmc, I'm curious - did you even graduate high school?

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rushmc, I'm curious - did you even graduate high school?

I hope he has his transcripts to prove it!

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rushmc, I'm curious - did you even graduate high school?

Insults like that make you look quite small.

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Renaissance men make you uncomfortable, don't they? Pity.

just liars.

Committees of academics are among the most petty, most political people on earth.

Your posts on this topic show very clearly that you have no idea about what the National Academies are.

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BTW, Have you not noticed that I am attacked even when I post positive or neutral messages?

That would be due to your complete disconnect with the "Christian" principles you write that you believe in, as opposed to what principles your writings actually show.

Your willingness to treat gay people as less deserving of equal rights, and civil rights, is WRONG, no matter how you rationalize it to yourself.
As has been pointed out before, the Bible contains a lot of detail about how to act and how to think. The parts about how to treat slaves, how to sell your children into bondage (slavery), and many other parts are totally ignored these days. You so called "Christians" pick and choose which parts apply these days, and which parts don't. 65 years ago you would have been against ending the Jim Crow laws, based upon your Bible. 150 years ago, you would likey have been for continuing slavery.

I despise hypocrites. Especially the "Christian" kind. They are really creepy.

FWIW, I have met you in person and interacted with you on more than one occasion. You are kind of creepy and make me uncomfortable. The eyes give it away. I suspect that your hatred of gay people is due to those urges you feel yourself, generating severe inner conflict as you resist those urges God gave you.

God does not make junk. God makes gay people gay, biologically. I think that folks that pretend to follow God's teachings, while doing much the opposite of his true values, will be paying a heavy price when they meet their maker.

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BTW, Have you not noticed that I am attacked even when I post positive or neutral messages?

That would be due to your complete disconnect with the "Christian" principles you write that you believe in, as opposed to what principles your writings actually show.

Your willingness to treat gay people as less deserving of equal rights, and civil rights, is WRONG, no matter how you rationalize it to yourself.
As has been pointed out before, the Bible contains a lot of detail about how to act and how to think. The parts about how to treat slaves, how to sell your children into bondage (slavery), and many other parts are totally ignored these days. You so called "Christians" pick and choose which parts apply these days, and which parts don't. 65 years ago you would have been against ending the Jim Crow laws, based upon your Bible. 150 years ago, you would likey have been for continuing slavery.

I despise hypocrites. Especially the "Christian" kind. They are really creepy.

FWIW, I have met you in person and interacted with you on more than one occasion. You are kind of creepy and make me uncomfortable. The eyes give it away. I suspect that your hatred of gay people is due to those urges you feel yourself, generating severe inner conflict as you resist those urges God gave you.

God does not make junk. God makes gay people gay, biologically. I think that folks that pretend to follow God's teachings, while doing much the opposite of his true values, will be paying a heavy price when they meet their maker.

I think gays should have equal rights not special privilege. The Bible is clear about the sin of homosexuality. Take it or leave, makes no difference to me.

I do not recognize your name. I don't think you have met me in person. If I am incorrect please tell me where and when.

I could get into some psychological or cognitive behavioral therapy aspects of individual feelings but I will save it for another topic and time.

First, enlighten me on our personal interactions.

Thnx.

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Just about everyone is political in one way or another. The game show Survivor is all about interpersonal politics.

And yes, college faculties are highly political in that way -- all the jockeying for tenure, publication, and research facilities and funding.

But that doesn't mean that they base decisions on whether someone has a D or an R after their name. There are politics in schools (ask any kid about who's popular and who isn't). Do you think that's based on party affiliation?

Wendy P.

So let me get this straight. If I was attending UC Berkley, and I submitted a Thesis paper entitled "Bush was Right" and I had a well documented, well thought out paper with all of the appropriate grammar I wouldn't get an automatic "F"? Even if it full of factual examples of Bush era policies that Obama is continuing?

Pass me some of what you are smoking......

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>So let me get this straight. If I was attending UC Berkley, and I submitted a Thesis
>paper entitled "Bush was Right" and I had a well documented, well thought out paper
>with all of the appropriate grammar I wouldn't get an automatic "F"?

If it was a course in contemporary politics - correct, you would not automatically get an F.

If you tried to do that in fulfillment of requirements for a master's in electrical engineering - you'd (rightly) get an F.