What Shocking New Polls on Republican Attitudes Toward Slavery, Interracial Marriage Say About the Modern GOP

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Public Policy Polling surveyed self-identified Republican voters in Mississippi. They were asked a series of questions regarding issue positions and their likelihood of voting for a given Republican presidential candidate in the 2012 race. Among their findings: apparently, race still matters to the good Tea Party GOP voters of Mississippi, with 46 percent of the respondents indicating that interracial marriage should be illegal. And in good news for Sarah Palin, those who supported her were significantly more likely to oppose marriage across the colorline.

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/150569/what_shocking_new_polls_on_republican_attitudes_toward_slavery%2C_interracial_marriage_say_about_the_modern_gop/?page=entire

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Public Policy Polling surveyed self-identified Republican voters in Mississippi. They were asked a series of questions regarding issue positions and their likelihood of voting for a given Republican presidential candidate in the 2012 race. Among their findings: apparently, race still matters to the good Tea Party GOP voters of Mississippi, with 46 percent of the respondents indicating that interracial marriage should be illegal. And in good news for Sarah Palin, those who supported her were significantly more likely to oppose marriage across the colorline.

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/150569/what_shocking_new_polls_on_republican_attitudes_toward_slavery%2C_interracial_marriage_say_about_the_modern_gop/?page=entire

Are you ALWAYS so late to the party?

[Andy9o8 2]

Pssst....

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4094612;page=unread#unread

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I find it rather amusing that you think that racism is divided by party lines . this coming from the Democrats , The party that founded the K.K.K.

[Andy9o8 2]

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the Democrats , The party that founded the K.K.K

That's like saying the Catholic Church invented buggery.

ETA: Please don't tell me you need "the long version" of this answer.

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Are you ALWAYS so late to the party?

Well, when you have to wait on someone else to think something up and formulate your opinion...

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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the Democrats , The party that founded the K.K.K

That's like saying the Catholic Church invented buggery.

ETA: Please don't tell me you need "the long version" of this answer.

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Which party passed the 14th amendment?
lets look to the equal rights amendment that was passed in the 60s...
By party
The original House version:[12]
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[13]
Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version:[12]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[12]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

My point was that either party can be guilty of racism...

[Andy9o8 2]

Then say so without the revisionist history; because other people know history, too, and will call you on it. I've posted about this subject before. Must I really give you "the long version" of the history of the racist, socially-conservative "Dixiecrat" Democrats in the Deep South (as contrasted with the moderate and liberal Democrats in the rest of the country) before they began morphing into the modern-day Southern wing of the Republican party that helped elect Nixon in 1968 and Reagan in 1980?

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Pssst....

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4094612;page=unread#unread

I thought it was pretty obvious by now that dreamdancer doesn't read the dropzone.com forums.

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Then say so without the revisionist history; because other people know history, too, and will call you on it. I've posted about this subject before. Must I really give you "the long version" of the history of the racist, socially-conservative "Dixiecrat" Democrats in the Deep South (as contrasted with the moderate and liberal Democrats in the rest of the country) before they began morphing into the modern-day Southern wing of the Republican party that helped elect Nixon in 1968 and Reagan in 1980?

Go for it - maybe you can explain how those racist "Dixiecrats" would go to the party that had just overwhelminly voted in favor of the 14th Amendment.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[billvon 3,119]

Funny argument:

"The GOP is racist!"
"No, the democrats _were_ racist!"

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Funny argument:

"The GOP is racist!"
"No, the democrats _were_ racist!"

*Were*?

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
-Senator Joe Biden

Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."
-Senator Hillary Clinton

Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him."
-- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape

"You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
-- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

"Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?"
-- Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

"In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture."
-- Harry Belafonte

Myth.....busted.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Andy9o8 2]

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Then say so without the revisionist history; because other people know history, too, and will call you on it. I've posted about this subject before. Must I really give you "the long version" of the history of the racist, socially-conservative "Dixiecrat" Democrats in the Deep South (as contrasted with the moderate and liberal Democrats in the rest of the country) before they began morphing into the modern-day Southern wing of the Republican party that helped elect Nixon in 1968 and Reagan in 1980?

Go for it - maybe you can explain how those racist "Dixiecrats" would go to the party that had just overwhelminly voted in favor of the 14th Amendment.

I essentially already have. In fact, you and I have pretty much had this discussion before. This is about the 3rd or 4th time I've posted about this; but as you wish.

The 14th Amendment was formally adopted in 1968. The Democrats in Congress who voted against it in the mid-1960s were, for the most part, the old racist, Deep South Dixiecrat wing of the party. They were Democrats since Reconstruction mainly because they were anti- Lincoln-style Republican. But ideologically, by the 1960s, they had virtually nothing in common with the moderate and liberal wings of the Democratic party. (Had the US been conducive to viable 3rd parties, they probably would have broken off from the Democratic party permanently back in 1948 when Strom Thurmond stormed out of the party (temporarily) on racial issues to run for President against Truman and Dewey as a 3rd-party "Dixiecrat".)

Those Southern Democrats' home constituents were the key to Nixon's "Southern Strategy" that got him elected in 1968, for they crossed tickets in droves at the polls and voted for Nixon. Eventually, old-style Southerners realized they had more in common ideologically with Republicans, so they morphed into Republicans. Most senior Southern Democrats in Congress (like Byrd) stayed in their party so they could keep their power. But as time and attrition wore on, what had been the Southern wing of the Democratic party had morphed into the Southern wing of the Republican party.

Anyhow, when those conservative Southerners voted as they did in the mid-1960s, they were still formally part of the Democratic party (even though they reviled the moderate and liberal wings of the party), so those votes are recorded in posterity in the Democratic column.

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Then say so without the revisionist history; because other people know history, too, and will call you on it. I've posted about this subject before. Must I really give you "the long version" of the history of the racist, socially-conservative "Dixiecrat" Democrats in the Deep South (as contrasted with the moderate and liberal Democrats in the rest of the country) before they began morphing into the modern-day Southern wing of the Republican party that helped elect Nixon in 1968 and Reagan in 1980?

Go for it - maybe you can explain how those racist "Dixiecrats" would go to the party that had just overwhelminly voted in favor of the 14th Amendment.

I essentially already have. In fact, you and I have pretty much had this discussion before. This is about the 3rd or 4th time I've posted about this; but as you wish.

The 14th Amendment was formally adopted in 1968. The Democrats in Congress who voted against it in the mid-1960s were, for the most part, the old racist, Deep South Dixiecrat wing of the party. They were Democrats since Reconstruction mainly because they were anti- Lincoln-style Republican. But ideologically, by the 1960s, they had virtually nothing in common with the moderate and liberal wings of the Democratic party. (Had the US been conducive to viable 3rd parties, they probably would have broken off from the Democratic party permanently back in 1948 when Strom Thurmond stormed out of the party (temporarily) on racial issues to run for President against Truman and Dewey as a 3rd-party "Dixiecrat".)

Those Southern Democrats' home constituents were the key to Nixon's "Southern Strategy" that got him elected in 1968, for they crossed tickets in droves at the polls and voted for Nixon. Eventually, old-style Southerners realized they had more in common ideologically with Republicans, so they morphed into Republicans. Most senior Southern Democrats in Congress (like Byrd) stayed in their party so they could keep their power. But as time and attrition wore on, what had been the Southern wing of the Democratic party had morphed into the Southern wing of the Republican party.

Anyhow, when those conservative Southerners voted as they did in the mid-1960s, they were still formally part of the Democratic party (even though they reviled the moderate and liberal wings of the party), so those votes are recorded in posterity in the Democratic column.

Yes, we *have* had the discussion before - and you STILL can't show WHY those 'racist Dixiecrats' would go to the party that had overwhelmingly supported the 14th amendment.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Andy9o8 2]

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Yes, we *have* had the discussion before - and you STILL can't show WHY those 'racist Dixiecrats' would go to the party that had overwhelmingly supported the 14th amendment.

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Yes, we *have* had the discussion before - and you STILL can't show WHY those 'racist Dixiecrats' would go to the party that had overwhelmingly supported the 14th amendment.

I
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No, you didn't - you have yet to explain WHY racists would go over to a party that had just overwhelmingly voted for the 14th.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Yes, we *have* had the discussion before - and you STILL can't show WHY those 'racist Dixiecrats' would go to the party that had overwhelmingly supported the 14th amendment.

I
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No, you didn't - you have yet to explain WHY racists would go over to a party that had just overwhelmingly voted for the 14th.

They didn't have the mindset that they were "going over to a party that had just overwhelmingly voted for the 14th." They were going over to the party that by every metric far better represented their overall ideologies than the party affiliation of their grandfathers did. Had, for example, that switch-over been made in the 1950s instead of the 70s and 80s, the vote ratios, too, would have been correspondingly affected.

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They were going over to the party that by every metric far better represented their overall ideologies than the party affiliation of their grandfathers did

Except for, you know, that whole racism thing.

I'm glad we can finally lay that old chestnut to rest.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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They were going over to the party that by every metric far better represented their overall ideologies than the party affiliation of their grandfathers did

Except for, you know, that whole racism thing.
I'm glad we can finally lay that old chestnut to rest.

We didn't.

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They were going over to the party that by every metric far better represented their overall ideologies than the party affiliation of their grandfathers did

Except for, you know, that whole racism thing.
I'm glad we can finally lay that old chestnut to rest.

We didn't.

Ok, sorry - *rational* people have laid it to rest. I won't speak for the 'bitter clingers' that still espouse the notion.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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the Democrats , The party that founded the K.K.K

That's like saying the Catholic Church invented buggery.

ETA: Please don't tell me you need "the long version" of this answer.

___________________________________
Which party passed the 14th amendment?
lets look to the equal rights amendment that was passed in the 60s...
By party
The original House version:[12]
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[13]
Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version:[12]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[12]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

My point was that either party can be guilty of racism...

Uh... you are not very good with historical FACT are you....The Democratic Party of the 1960's changed DRASTICALLY after Johnson pushed the civil rights issues.... those good ole boys... fled in DROVES to the GOP and formed the base of what is now the rePUBIClown Party.