Kennedy 0 #1 April 10, 2011 Quote7 killed, 11 wounded in Dutch shopping mall shooting ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN, NETHERLANDS—A man armed with a machine-gun opened fire in a crowded shopping mall on Saturday, killing six people and wounding 15, then committed suicide, officials and witnesses said. snipwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 April 10, 2011 Could this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 April 10, 2011 QuoteCould this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party? I was thinking gremlins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 April 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteCould this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party? I was thinking gremlins. That's just as likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 April 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteCould this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party? I was thinking gremlins. That's just as likely. Or loony with a gun and incorrectly firing synapses (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 April 10, 2011 Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #7 April 10, 2011 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 April 10, 2011 QuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #9 April 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 April 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here. Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 April 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote***QuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here. Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another? I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care. 1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 April 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote***QuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here. Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another? I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care. 1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded, Too bad whomever shot them was such a poor shooter with bad aim. A real gangster would not have messed up so badly. Freakin amatuers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 April 11, 2011 QuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. An interesting fiction, but Westroads Mall of Omaha NE proves you incorrect. Other examples if deranged individuals attacking total strangers are not hard to find (precisely because they are national news and extensively covered). Pinelake, in Carthage NC West Nickel Mines Amish School in PA Luby's in Killeen TX US Post Office in Edmond OK McDonalds in San Diego CA Each was national news for weeks and is still discussed. Then we can look at the similar tragedies where students go ballistic and attack their own campuses or employees returning to attack coworkers and employers.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 April 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. Find an example where 7 people were killed and it wasn't covered. Between the media and the Brady coalition, we know about every one of there. Hell, they even keep telling us about all the shootings that will happen if legislation passes. IOW, if they're willing to repeatedly make up shit, how likely are they to skip over real events? And that's in a nation immensely larger, and with 19x the population of the Netherlands. BTW, at the moment the SF Chronicle site mentions violence in Syria and Libya, but not Amsterdam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 April 11, 2011 Newsworthiness is fully Dependant upon Proximity and Social Standing. Celebrity stubs toe and breaks nail .... newsworthy - More at 10 100 people killed in Bongo-Bongo-ikstan - Not so much - yeah, whateva some people shot in Holland - worthy of a discussion - pass me another spliff. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 618 #16 April 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. Find an example where 7 people were killed and it wasn't covered. Between the media and the Brady coalition, we know about every one of there. Hell, they even keep telling us about all the shootings that will happen if legislation passes. IOW, if they're willing to repeatedly make up shit, how likely are they to skip over real events? And that's in a nation immensely larger, and with 19x the population of the Netherlands. BTW, at the moment the SF Chronicle site mentions violence in Syria and Libya, but not Amsterdam. There are 100's of examples but they weren't covered - DUH... Just kidding - pretty sure that 7 deaths in 1 go would get coverage in the USA. I reckon the threshold is probably about 3 before it hits national headlines(just a guess).Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 April 11, 2011 Or 1 celb (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 April 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. Find an example where 7 people were killed and it wasn't covered. Between the media and the Brady coalition, we know about every one of there. Hell, they even keep telling us about all the shootings that will happen if legislation passes. IOW, if they're willing to repeatedly make up shit, how likely are they to skip over real events? And that's in a nation immensely larger, and with 19x the population of the Netherlands. BTW, at the moment the SF Chronicle site mentions violence in Syria and Libya, but not Amsterdam. There are 100's of examples but they weren't covered - DUH... Just kidding - pretty sure that 7 deaths in 1 go would get coverage in the USA. I reckon the threshold is probably about 3 before it hits national headlines(just a guess). Well, there you go. The media encourages mass murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #19 April 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote***QuoteQuote***QuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here. Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another? I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care. 1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded, Too bad whomever shot them was such a poor shooter with bad aim. A real gangster would not have messed up so badly. Freakin amatuers. I hear ya, having to watch an eleven year old girl spend six years as a quad... They should have dropped her ass with one shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 April 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote***QuoteQuote***QuoteQuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white. With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here. Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another? I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care. 1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded, Too bad whomever shot them was such a poor shooter with bad aim. A real gangster would not have messed up so badly. Freakin amatuers. I hear ya, having to watch an eleven year old girl spend six years as a quad... They should have dropped her ass with one shot. Sorry, I misunderstood what pt's are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #21 April 11, 2011 QuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. Nonsense...... People are STILL talking about AZ. And the death count was less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #22 April 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteCould this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party? I was thinking gremlins. That's just as likely. Really?? Hate speech from a political party has never caused a mass shooting/murder?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 April 11, 2011 Obviously due to the lax gun laws and gunshow loopholes in Holland.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #24 April 11, 2011 Quote Just kidding - pretty sure that 7 deaths in 1 go would get coverage in the USA. I reckon the threshold is probably about 3 before it hits national headlines(just a guess). 3 hoods getting shot is much less likely to get national coverage. but 3 randoms in a public place - yes. A husband or wife shooting his family, then itself, is also going to be more local than national. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #25 April 11, 2011 QuoteFunny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list. Quotereally - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie. Typical responses: No mention of "news" in quote. "You are wrong and I'm right. Inference to delusional. "You're lying." ...and there's a whole list of them after that one, too. sooooooo freakin' tiresome. My son would probably say, "Boooooooorrrrrrring." The event is not something that happens anywhere near regularly in the Netherlands. It is newsworthy in and of itself. Especially so here in the U.S. where we're all about dirty laundry.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites