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7 killed, 11 wounded in Dutch shopping mall shooting

ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN, NETHERLANDS—A man armed with a machine-gun opened fire in a crowded shopping mall on Saturday, killing six people and wounding 15, then committed suicide, officials and witnesses said.

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Could this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party?



I was thinking gremlins.



That's just as likely.



Or loony with a gun and incorrectly firing synapses

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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.

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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.

With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here.

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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.

With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here.



Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another?

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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.

With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here.



Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another?



I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care.

1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded,

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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.

With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here.



Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another?



I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care.

1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded,



Too bad whomever shot them was such a poor shooter with bad aim. A real gangster would not have messed up so badly. Freakin amatuers.

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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



An interesting fiction, but Westroads Mall of Omaha NE proves you incorrect. Other examples if deranged individuals attacking total strangers are not hard to find (precisely because they are national news and extensively covered).

Pinelake, in Carthage NC
West Nickel Mines Amish School in PA
Luby's in Killeen TX
US Post Office in Edmond OK
McDonalds in San Diego CA

Each was national news for weeks and is still discussed. Then we can look at the similar tragedies where students go ballistic and attack their own campuses or employees returning to attack coworkers and employers.
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Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.



Find an example where 7 people were killed and it wasn't covered. Between the media and the Brady coalition, we know about every one of there. Hell, they even keep telling us about all the shootings that will happen if legislation passes. IOW, if they're willing to repeatedly make up shit, how likely are they to skip over real events?

And that's in a nation immensely larger, and with 19x the population of the Netherlands.

BTW, at the moment the SF Chronicle site mentions violence in Syria and Libya, but not Amsterdam.

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  • Celebrity stubs toe and breaks nail .... newsworthy - More at 10

  • 100 people killed in Bongo-Bongo-ikstan - Not so much - yeah, whateva

  • some people shot in Holland - worthy of a discussion - pass me another spliff.

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    Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



    really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.


    Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.


    Find an example where 7 people were killed and it wasn't covered. Between the media and the Brady coalition, we know about every one of there. Hell, they even keep telling us about all the shootings that will happen if legislation passes. IOW, if they're willing to repeatedly make up shit, how likely are they to skip over real events?

    And that's in a nation immensely larger, and with 19x the population of the Netherlands.

    BTW, at the moment the SF Chronicle site mentions violence in Syria and Libya, but not Amsterdam.


    :D:D There are 100's of examples but they weren't covered - DUH...

    Just kidding - pretty sure that 7 deaths in 1 go would get coverage in the USA. I reckon the threshold is probably about 3 before it hits national headlines(just a guess).
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    Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



    really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.


    Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.


    Find an example where 7 people were killed and it wasn't covered. Between the media and the Brady coalition, we know about every one of there. Hell, they even keep telling us about all the shootings that will happen if legislation passes. IOW, if they're willing to repeatedly make up shit, how likely are they to skip over real events?

    And that's in a nation immensely larger, and with 19x the population of the Netherlands.

    BTW, at the moment the SF Chronicle site mentions violence in Syria and Libya, but not Amsterdam.


    :D:D There are 100's of examples but they weren't covered - DUH...

    Just kidding - pretty sure that 7 deaths in 1 go would get coverage in the USA. I reckon the threshold is probably about 3 before it hits national headlines(just a guess).


    Well, there you go. The media encourages mass murder.

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    Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



    really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



    Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.

    With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here.



    Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another?



    I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care.

    1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded,



    Too bad whomever shot them was such a poor shooter with bad aim. A real gangster would not have messed up so badly. Freakin amatuers.



    I hear ya, having to watch an eleven year old girl spend six years as a quad... They should have dropped her ass with one shot.

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    Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



    really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



    Perhaps for a day or two, less if the victims were non-white.

    With over 1,000 firearm murders a month in the US, 7 don't seem too much here.



    Considering the majority are criminals killing other criminal, you are correct. Am I supposed to care that one gangster murders another?



    I care, the monetary cost to society is astronomical. I have two pt's (both 17) at my work, both GSW's and both quads. The good people of California are paying about 50 grand a month each for their care.

    1.2 million dollars a year just for two of the wounded,



    Too bad whomever shot them was such a poor shooter with bad aim. A real gangster would not have messed up so badly. Freakin amatuers.



    I hear ya, having to watch an eleven year old girl spend six years as a quad... They should have dropped her ass with one shot.



    Sorry, I misunderstood what pt's are.

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    Could this have been caused by Hate Speech from a political party?



    I was thinking gremlins.



    That's just as likely.



    Really?? Hate speech from a political party has never caused a mass shooting/murder?
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    Just kidding - pretty sure that 7 deaths in 1 go would get coverage in the USA. I reckon the threshold is probably about 3 before it hits national headlines(just a guess).



    3 hoods getting shot is much less likely to get national coverage. but 3 randoms in a public place - yes.

    A husband or wife shooting his family, then itself, is also going to be more local than national.

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    Funny, how it's big news in Holland, but a shooting like that in the states would not even make the honorable mention list.



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    really - you don't think a shooting with 7 dead would make the news? If such a delusion makes you feel better (how?), fine. But it's a lie.



    Typical responses:
    No mention of "news" in quote.
    "You are wrong and I'm right.
    Inference to delusional.
    "You're lying."

    ...and there's a whole list of them after that one, too.

    sooooooo freakin' tiresome.
    My son would probably say, "Boooooooorrrrrrring."

    The event is not something that happens anywhere near regularly in the Netherlands. It is newsworthy in and of itself. Especially so here in the U.S. where we're all about dirty laundry.
    My reality and yours are quite different.
    I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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