"We Never Saw This Coming", part 47: Islamofascists Take Advantage of Egypt Power Vacuum

[Guest]

Who'da thunk it?

This is a big surprise. I really like the comments at the end of the article, the majority of which say something like "And you Egyptians thought Mubarak was bad! You pussies!"

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[Amazon 7]

DUH when you see polls that show 80% of them believe in the same things that only a Sharia Mullah could love.... they deserve all the crap they are going to vote for themselves... much like here in the US with the Talibanization of America that you support

[billvon 3,132]

Yep. Even Egypt has their own version of Tea Partyers.

[Kennedy 0]

Bill, I'm not surprised by Mark or Jeanne, and really I'm not surprised by your comment. But can you back it up? Can you describe for us how the Tea Party is like the Taliban? (or other Islamic Radical group of your choice)

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Bill, I'm not surprised by Mark or Jeanne, and really I'm not surprised by your comment. But can you back it up? Can you describe for us how the Tea Party is like the Taliban? (or other Islamic Radical group of your choice)

A fundie consevetard of any religious flavor is pretty much the same... SHOVING their form of religion on you... by codifying religion into LAW... it permeates this country...

[billvon 3,132]

>But can you back it up?

I didn't say they were like the Taliban. I said that that article described a party a lot like the Tea Partyers. Here's the same article with only a few words changed (but just as accurate) -

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WASHINGTON – Right wing hard-liners, some of them heavily suppressed under years of Democratic control of government, are enthusiastically diving into a more welcoming political environment, forming political parties to enter upcoming elections and raising concern that they will try to lead the country into more fundamentalist rule.

Some more militant members, taking advantage of the frenzy, aren't waiting for the political process. They have attacked Muslim mosques, Democrats, their families and supporters by throwing bricks through windows and cutting gas lines.

The right wingers newfound energy prompted the the FBI to warn local police to step up scrutiny of self-styled “militia groups,” in the wake of arrests of nine members of a Michigan “Christian militia” on charges they planned to start a new American revolution by killing police officers and then bombing their funerals.
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[Kennedy 0]

Right, except Tea Partiers haven't actually done any of that, have they? So they're actually nothing like the people descirbed in the article. Thanks for clearing that up.

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[Amazon 7]

Just exercising those Sharon Angle 2nd Amendment options

[Kennedy 0]

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A fundie consevetard of any religious flavor is pretty much the same... SHOVING their form of religion on you... by codifying religion into LAW... it permeates this country...

No argument there. But is the Tea Party a religious movement? I'm sure there are one or two morons out there trying to mooch of the power of the name (easy to do since there isn't a central party, and no one to officially set the course or dialog). But I understand teh Tea Party to be a loose association of groups calling for smaller government and less government intrusion into private life. If most of them are Christian, does that really matter?

If your standard for calling a political party a bunch of fundie conservatards, then the Democratic Party is a bunch of fundie conservatards. Afterall, the vast majority of them are Christians.

Has the Tea party called for any silly assed "christian law" to be imposed? I was under the impression they supported Choice over governemnt deciding for you in advance, whether it's deciding conservative/chiristian, or deciding socialist/progressive, or any other. Is there evidence to the contrary?

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[muff528 3]

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Who'da thunk it?

This is a big surprise. I really like the comments at the end of the article, the majority of which say something like "And you Egyptians thought Mubarak was bad! You pussies!"

mh
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Hey! I think I could get used to this prophesy business. I know this was a pretty easy one but all the great prophets had to start small ...playing keno and twenty questions and such.
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4058689#4058689

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4082189#4082189

[Kennedy 0]

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Just exercising those Sharon Angle 2nd Amendment options

Uh huh. Have they?



Oops, try again, red.

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That is hilarious.. coming from someone who votes exclusively for the party that wears FAMILY VALUES and PRO LIFE on their sleeves( and fails at it so very often)

You know.. the guys who continuely try to legislate MORALITY... How is that going with making government smaller??? Oh wait.. there are less laws in the Bible to follow than all the stuff that every government entity has passed in this country from the smallest town up to State Governments


Like the South Dakotans... who tried to pass some nifty laws to support their PRO LIFE stance...kill doctors... yeah thats the ticket

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Just exercising those Sharon Angle 2nd Amendment options

Uh huh. Have they?



Oops, try again, red.

Are all yall saying.. that you are all talk and no action???

The fringe right spends a hell of a lot of time justifying the 2nd Amendment if its all just hogwash.

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... by codifying religion into LAW...

I think that looking back over the millenia that it's really the other way around. Sharia is really not much more than the "law of the desert" and bedouin hospitality. Other societies and their varied religions might also have sprung from rules of "interaction" developed over centuries. As long as these societies remained isolated from each other there were no problems except at their frontiers. What you don't seem to get is that you are really a conservative but you can't get past the more visible elements that you think define conservatism. Let go! ...join us!

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... by codifying religion into LAW...

I think that looking back over the millenia that it's really the other way around. Sharia is really not much more than the "law of the desert" and bedouin hospitality. Other societies and their varied religions might also have sprung from rules of "interaction" developed over centuries. As long as these societies remained isolated from each other there were no problems except at their frontiers. What you don't seem to get is that you are really a conservative but you can't get past the more visible elements that you think define conservatism. Let go! ...join us!

Do I get to STONE you to DEATH for that shrimp dinner that is an abomination to GOD that you had last week???

[muff528 3]

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...Do I get to STONE you to DEATH for that shrimp dinner that is an abomination to GOD that you had last week???

No religiosity here, but if yours requires stoning me to death for eating shrimp steamed in beer with a nice garlic butter sauce and ....where was I? Oh...If yours requires stoning me to death then I'd have to get Ban Ki Moon and NATO to try to figure out who the good guys are and then get France to send some Mirages (but not too many!) to take you out if they decide you are one of the bad guys. Otherwise (and this may be worse!) they will bore you with one of their strongly worded resolutions. Maybe not.

[skinnay 0]

Kind of ironic, many americans would consider people like you to be their counterpart

[wmw999 2,603]

The Tea Party as a movement does not espouse religious views. However, as mentioned in an earlier thread, that the tea parties tend to track social and religious conservatives rather than libertarians on social issues.

To me, the difference between a very conservative evangelical Christian and a very conservative non-terrorist Muslim is not that large. They tend to think their view of the world is right, others' is wrong, and it's their job to make the world match their view.

Terrorists are, of course, different, and criminal. They also tend to come from minority, oppressed, or less-powerful groups within whatever society they're part of. Saying "they're all Muslims" is about as meaningful as saying that all Americans are Christians and therefore there shouldn't be any religious disagreement. (BTW, this last paragraph is by no means directed at you -- it's just convenient to keep typing)

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Kennedy 0]

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That is hilarious.. coming from someone who votes exclusively for the party that wears FAMILY VALUES and PRO LIFE on their sleeves( and fails at it so very often)

You really need to get your telepathy machine looked at, or stop using it. It's busted. For your information, I've checked the box next to Ds, Rs, Ls, Is, and others.

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You know.. the guys who continuely try to legislate MORALITY... How is that going with making government smaller??? Oh wait.. there are less laws in the Bible to follow than all the stuff that every government entity has passed in this country from the smallest town up to State Governments

You really need to read what I write, instead of lumping me into your farcical stereotype "conservatard". Those two things don't mesh, and I consistently choose less intrusion over the alternative. I don't want the government tell someone else to believe as I do. Any govt tgat can do that can turn around and force me to act according to someone else's beliefs. No thanks.

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Like the South Dakotans... who tried to pass some nifty laws to support their PRO LIFE stance...kill doctors... yeah thats the ticket

No, that's not the ticket, that's flat out stupidity.

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[DaVinci 0]

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I didn't say they were like the Taliban.

Sure ya did, "Yep. Even Egypt has their own version of Tea Partyers."

You didn't say extreme version, you labeled them all the same.

And I guess only the "Right" does bad things?

DALLAS -- Dallas police are looking into a shocking crime against an Iraq War vet that took place on a college campus.

Overnight Tuesday, someone took vandalized 23-year-old Army veteran Viktor Whitlow's vehicle while it was parked at Dallas Baptist University. Ironically, the mascot at DBU is the Patriot.

The vandals used a box cutter to destroy the inside of his jeep, they slashed five tires and smashed through the windshield. Perhaps the most shocking detail to the vandalism was the message spray painted on his hood.

In red paint the vandals spraypainted the message, "Soldiers are murderers."

The message was quite a shock to Whitlow, who has been deployed twice to Iraq as an Army reservist.

"It makes you seem like a murderer -- a cold blooded killer and that's not the case," said Whitlow.

Dallas police said Whitlow's case is not considered a hate crime because military personnel cannot be members of a hate crime.

[Kennedy 0]

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Just exercising those Sharon Angle 2nd Amendment options

Uh huh. Have they?



Oops, try again, red.

Are all yall saying.. that you are all talk and no action???

The fringe right spends a hell of a lot of time justifying the 2nd Amendment if its all just hogwash.

No, unlike some others here, I understand that one doesn't need to run out to the extreme in order to exercise a right. Not counting work, I choose to buy, rent, and own firearms. That is thanks to the second amendment. Just because I choose not to go out murdering politicians doesn't mean I don't believe in the second any more than failing to spew hate speech means I don't believe in the first amendment. I don't protest in the streets, try to practice or convert people to a religion in public, but that doesn't mean I don't care about the first amendment. Or am I all talk and no action because I'm not a whackjob? Please feel free to clarify your position if I've misinterpretted any of it. Or you can just throw out some more insults aimed at a stereotype that doesn't fit. Whatever.

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[Guest]

Hadjii is struggling to re-brand himself in the face of the popular uprisings in the ME. The slick AQ rag "Inspire" says that AQ will exploit these changes for their own benefit in places like Yemen, and use the resulting failure to self-govern as justification for their style of leadership, namely islamo-fascism, even though it's quite obvious that 7th-Century political, economic and social ideas are hopelessly obsolete in the modern world. Hadjii has failed miserably everywhere he has tried to rule, but he never quits because he's on a mission from god. It's a lot like communism, really, in that the zealots are disconnected from reality itself.

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Just like the die-hard communists, we'll never have peace until every last one of them has been stomped to death. Burn in Hell, Ceausescu. Someday, OBL will be right next to you.

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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Just like the die-hard communists, we'll never have peace until every last one of them has been stomped to death. Burn in Hell, Ceausescu. Someday, OBL will be right next to you.

When the Soviet Union dissolved, most of the Commies there weren't crushed; for the most part, they didn't even exit the scene. They just re-branded themselves and kept on truckin'.

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Just like the die-hard communists, we'll never have peace until every last one of them has been stomped to death. Burn in Hell, Ceausescu. Someday, OBL will be right next to you.

When the Soviet Union dissolved, most of the Commies there weren't crushed; for the most part, they didn't even exit the scene. They just re-branded themselves and kept on truckin'.

Careful now.. Mark needs to feel that he was "IN THERE for the big win"

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Just like the die-hard communists, we'll never have peace until every last one of them has been stomped to death. Burn in Hell, Ceausescu. Someday, OBL will be right next to you.

When the Soviet Union dissolved, most of the Commies there weren't crushed; for the most part, they didn't even exit the scene. They just re-branded themselves and kept on truckin'.

You are correct about the bureaucrats, but not about the worst of the worst. The Apparatchniki were so entrenched into the system that it would have left the Eastern Bloc with virtually no government at all, had they all been offed. The majority of them were co-opted. The US cleaned house in Iraq (45 of the 55 on the original "Deck of Cards" are dead or in custody), but found that the Baath party bureaucrats were the only ones who could get things done. Chaos and hilarity ensued.

It's like I've always said about the US government: the top dog doesn't matter - not even Congress. It's the Mandarins who really run the show. They are accountable to no one, and they are the real reason we are in such a mess.

That doesn't mean that those who deserve it won't get theirs one day. Slobodan Milosevic escaped justice, but he didn't escape the judge of us all. Radovan Karadic will probably only get his pee-pee slapped by the Hague, but some enterprising Bosnians are going to fix his wagon for him.

And you can bet that former Stasi members will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. They have blood on their hands, and one should never underestimate Teutonic determination.


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