remibond 0 #1 March 23, 2011 link QuoteA bomb in the streets of central Jerusalem, the first in more than six years, has exploded in the city, killing one person and wounding 30 as they queued for a bus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 March 24, 2011 Hamas must feel like they're not getting enough attention these days, what with Iran, Iraq, and Libya stealing the middle east spotlight. Awww, poor widdle wewigious psychopafs... Does somebody need a hug from a suicide bomber?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #3 March 24, 2011 The Palestinians have lost. No one cares anymore. Kinda of like parents watching the kids squabbling nonstop. The parents tune them out.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #4 March 24, 2011 And two Grad missiles (big rockets) on Be'er Sheva, over 50 mortar shells last week on one day and a couple every day. I don't like where this is going... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 March 24, 2011 How can you worry about where it's going when where you are isn't even on the map? It doesn't exist, but we'll fly you there four times a week...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 March 24, 2011 QuoteHow can you worry about where it's going when where you are isn't even on the map? It doesn't exist, but we'll fly you there four times a week... I guess DeNile really is a river in Egypt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 March 24, 2011 QuoteAnd two Grad missiles (big rockets) on Be'er Sheva, over 50 mortar shells last week on one day and a couple every day. I don't like where this is going... Other than another blood bath in Gaza where do you see this going?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #8 March 24, 2011 I don't know, but you can add 5 more rockets since this morning. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 March 24, 2011 Any thoughts on why the recent upsurge is happening now Ori?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #10 March 24, 2011 Quotelink QuoteA bomb in the streets of central Jerusalem, the first in more than six years, has exploded in the city, killing one person and wounding 30 as they queued for a bus. airtwardo is in Jerusalem this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 March 24, 2011 QuoteAny thoughts on why the recent upsurge is happening now Ori? I would say with all the things going on around them in the Arab world... that Hamas was not getting any attention and were starting to feel particularly irrelevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #12 March 24, 2011 QuoteAny thoughts on why the recent upsurge is happening now Ori? I have no idea. Don't really understand the motives of these idiots... All I know is that if rockets keep flying out of Gaza again (and so far they are), Israel will be dragged into this mess again. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 March 24, 2011 And that couldn't come at a better time for Libya.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #14 March 27, 2011 QuoteHamas must feel like they're not getting enough attention these days, what with Iran, Iraq, and Libya stealing the middle east spotlight. Awww, poor widdle wewigious psychopafs... Does somebody need a hug from a suicide bomber? QuoteQuoteAny thoughts on why the recent upsurge is happening now Ori? I have no idea. Don't really understand the motives of these idiots... All I know is that if rockets keep flying out of Gaza again (and so far they are), Israel will be dragged into this mess again. Hamas aren't psychopathic or stupid regardless of how you feel about their theology. And Israel aren't being dragged in to anything when they are occupying other people's land and destroying their entire society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #15 March 27, 2011 Also no mention of the family and children that were killed by Israel - but thats standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 March 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteHamas must feel like they're not getting enough attention these days, what with Iran, Iraq, and Libya stealing the middle east spotlight. Awww, poor widdle wewigious psychopafs... Does somebody need a hug from a suicide bomber? QuoteQuoteAny thoughts on why the recent upsurge is happening now Ori? I have no idea. Don't really understand the motives of these idiots... All I know is that if rockets keep flying out of Gaza again (and so far they are), Israel will be dragged into this mess again. Hamas aren't psychopathic or stupid regardless of how you feel about their theology. And Israel aren't being dragged in to anything when they are occupying other people's land and destroying their entire society. Also no mention of the family and children that were killed by Israel - but thats standard. Do you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #17 March 27, 2011 QuoteDo you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza? hamas are the democratically elected government of gaza...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemedic 7 #18 March 27, 2011 QuoteAlso no mention of the family and children that were killed by Israel - but thats standard. Edit to add: So by saying this you infer its understandable. Lets call it retribution for the above mentioned killed by Israel say..... 18months ago. This infers you condone perpetuation of violence. Am I wrong. EDIT: You need to fill out your profile so we know who you really are. Stand up for your beliefs and don't hide behind a pseudo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #19 March 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteDo you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza? hamas are the democratically elected government of gaza... They are also a corrupt humanitarian nightmare...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 March 27, 2011 Quote Quote Do you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza? hamas are the democratically elected government of gaza... Hmmm didn't the German people make a similar mistake about 75 years ago. Electing a government democratically depends on just how stupid a large enough number of them really are. Why don't YOU gop watch a few hundred hours of Palistinian TV.... oh wait.. you already have similar views that they spout daily. Well done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #21 March 28, 2011 QuoteQuoteDo you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza? hamas are the democratically elected government of gaza... OK, I'll skip the godwin's law response. Let's talk about merits. The Israelis were attacked and won the war. (doesn't it sucks when your victims practice effective self defense?) they gave up the vast majority of the land they seized. They kept three small sections due to their strategic value and repeated attacks launched from them. Hamas is a rerrorist organization the targets civilians including women and children. None of the involved parties are innocent. Hamas has a right to exist, yes or no? Israel has a right to exist, yes or no? Which one has the destruction of the other as a founding principle? If Israel pulled all forces out of Gaza and ended the blockade, what do you think would happen? Would the attacks stop? Would Jews in the area, if any, be allowed to live peacefully? Egypt is working with Israel. Is any country willing to admit working with Hamas? Why? Do you have any understanding of the history of Transjordan? Have you ever thought Hamas was wrong and Israel was right for even a single instance? What do you think of the busstop bombing mentioned in the OP?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #22 March 28, 2011 QuoteEgypt is working with Israel. egypt will have a new government in a few months...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #23 March 28, 2011 Quote Do you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza? Its pretty easy - one maintains hospitals and the other shells hospitals. Quote Edit to add: So by saying this you infer its understandable. Bombing civilians is never acceptable so no I didn't say its understandable. It is obviously to be expected. Actions garner reactions. Quote Lets call it retribution for the above mentioned killed by Israel say..... 18months ago. This is exactly the point I'm making. It wasn't 18 months ago. It was about 48 hours before the bus attack when Israel shelled a family home. Quote This infers you condone perpetuation of violence. Am I wrong. Yes, you are completely wrong. It infers that the level of discussion inside the US/UK is fraudulent, pathetic and ironically much more ideological than in the Israeli media itself. For the ignorant the clock starts ticking when Israel are attacked - so again where is the thread about Israel shelling civilians 48 hours before the bus attack? None existent - standard in the US and UK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #24 March 28, 2011 Quote The Israelis were attacked and won the war. (doesn't it sucks when your victims practice effective self defense?) Unlike the dozens of massacres Israel carried out in 1948 against Palestinian civilians? Seems like it would suck more when you can't defend yourself. Quote they gave up the vast majority of the land they seized. But not all so at least we have cleared the air in this department and recognise that Israel has broken international law for decades. Quote Hamas is a rerrorist organization the targets civilians including women and children. None of the involved parties are innocent. *** Yes they are - just like Israel - none of the parties are innocent. *** Hamas has a right to exist, yes or no? Israel has a right to exist, yes or no? Which one has the destruction of the other as a founding principle? Yes, yes and Israel. Hamas have publically stated they support both a two state solution and that during peace talks they would support the decision of the Palestinian people. If you think they are lying and will only do what their charter states then there is a very simple way of destroying all their credibility - take them up on the repeated verbal offers of peaceful settlement and then point self satisfactorily as they fail to uphold these statements. Obviously Israel will not since they have demonstrated quite clearly since '04 or so that they are fearful of the peace offensive. Unlike Israel they have actually maintained ceasefires. Quote If Israel pulled all forces out of Gaza and ended the blockade, what do you think would happen? Would the attacks stop? Would Jews in the area, if any, be allowed to live peacefully? Israel don't have to pull out of the Gaza. They have to pull out of all the occupied territories, accept the right of return and begin to negotiate an actual peaceful settlement in accordance with the opinion of the entire world. Quote Do you have any understanding of the history of Transjordan? Have you ever thought Hamas was wrong and Israel was right for even a single instance? Do you have any understanding of the region in general? Doesn't seem like it when you cry constantly about Hamas when they are a reaction to a much larger problem. We get it - they are theological barbarians and terrorists and guess what else? They've only existed since the late '80s so who was your scapegoat before that? Hamas are constantly wrong on a whole range of issues and actions. Israel are too except they have a much greater capacity for violence and are constantly occupying other people's land and destroying another people's society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #25 March 29, 2011 QuoteQuote Do you really want to debate the merits ofHamas versus Israeli control of Gaza? Its pretty easy - one maintains hospitals and the other shells hospitals. One builds hopsitals, the other attacks them with car bombs and suicide vests. QuoteQuote Edit to add: So by saying this you infer its understandable. Bombing civilians is never acceptable so no I didn't say its understandable. It is obviously to be expected. Actions garner reactions. Attacking government and military targets is to be expected. Blowing up a bus stop is terrorism. Not equivalent in terms of force or morality. QuoteQuoteThis infers you condone perpetuation of violence. Am I wrong. Yes, you are completely wrong. It infers that the level of discussion inside the US/UK is fraudulent, pathetic and ironically much more ideological than in the Israeli media itself. For the ignorant the clock starts ticking when Israel are attacked - so again where is the thread about Israel shelling civilians 48 hours before the bus attack? None existent - standard in the US and UK. Should I just get you pom poms, a bullhorn, and "I Hamas" tshirt? Or would you prefer the "Death to the Great Satan" tshirt?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
