How environmentalism hurts the environment

[brenthutch 444]

Keep in mind that Der Spiegel, is a very left of center pub.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,751469,00.html
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Add to this cap n trade, low flush toilets http://www.heartland.org/full/29541/LowFlow_Toilets_Backfiring_in_San_Francisco.html, natural fiber shopping bags http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2010/11/15/reusable-grocery-bags-spark-new-health-scare/and you can see that environmentalist are "destroying our planet"

[Kennedy 0]

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Keep in mind that Der Spiegel, is a very left of center pub.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,751469,00.html

Add to this cap n trade, low flush toilets, natural fiber shopping bags, and you can see that environmentalist(s) are "destroying our planet"

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[david3 0]

At least the Compact Fluorescent Light (CFL) Bulb is safe.

http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup-detailed.html

[rushmc 23]

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Keep in mind that Der Spiegel, is a very left of center pub.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,751469,00.html
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Add to this cap n trade, low flush toilets http://www.heartland.org/full/29541/LowFlow_Toilets_Backfiring_in_San_Francisco.html, natural fiber shopping bags http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2010/11/15/reusable-grocery-bags-spark-new-health-scare/and you can see that environmentalist are "destroying our planet"

What they are trying to destroy is capitalism

Enviromnentalism is just the tool

At least that is my opinion on these nuts

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

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Keep in mind that Der Spiegel, is a very left of center pub.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,751469,00.html
[/url]
Add to this cap n trade, low flush toilets http://www.heartland.org/full/29541/LowFlow_Toilets_Backfiring_in_San_Francisco.html, natural fiber shopping bags http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2010/11/15/reusable-grocery-bags-spark-new-health-scare/and you can see that environmentalist are "destroying our planet"

What they are trying to destroy is capitalism

Enviromnentalism is just the tool

At least that is my opinion on these nuts

Says the local represenative of the Pollute First and Pollute often crowd.

[shropshire 0]

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Keep in mind that Der Spiegel, is a very left of center pub.
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Well, THAT depends upon where YOUR centre is.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[rushmc 23]

Being hypocritical is easy for you




….isn’t it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[masterrig 1]

Another side to this is... noone told consumers to periodically wash the 'environmentally safe' grocery sacks so as to prevent salmonella, mold or mildew. DUH! As for those compact flourescent bulbs... just a gimmick by General Electric to make a fortune from the 'global warming' 'environmental' craze.
Seems like people nowadays have to be told everything by some 'group'. Is there no such thing as common sense, any more?


Chuck

[david3 0]

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Another side to this is... noone told consumers to periodically wash the 'environmentally safe' grocery sacks so as to prevent salmonella, mold or mildew. DUH! As for those compact flourescent bulbs... just a gimmick by General Electric to make a fortune from the 'global warming' 'environmental' craze.
Seems like people nowadays have to be told everything by some 'group'. Is there no such thing as common sense, any more?


Chuck

But when that group is congress...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/75548.html

[Amazon 7]

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Being hypocritical is easy for you




….isn’t it

Truth hurts huh???

MMMMMM TRICKLE from the COAL BROTHERS.... MMMMMMM

[masterrig 1]

Yup! That's just one of many reasons they run for office. To enlighten and guide us because they have superior powers and intelligence. They jumped on the 'green band wagon', not because they are so concerned with the environment and Bambi, Yogi and Boo-boo but because there's money in it! Hell! If it's good enough for Al Gore... it's good enough for them!


Chuck

[shropshire 0]

The Green Economy is just that ... an economy from making Green-backs.

But that said, We (human kind) are as daft as a goldfish drink all of the water in our bowl!!

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[rushmc 23]

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Being hypocritical is easy for you




….isn’t it

Truth hurts huh???

MMMMMM TRICKLE from the COAL BROTHERS.... MMMMMMM

Lets see

You dont have your great big boat anymore

oh, wait

Well you are all solar and wind and have disconected from the grid correct

correct?

You live in town so you can use public transportation too

wait
or do you still live on a acerage where you need to drive a 4 wheel drive to work?

Hmm

from hypocrisy to trickel?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

and you stopped jumping out of airplanes

correct?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[masterrig 1]

That's another subject... water! I don't know about y'all in The British Isles but here, we waste water like we waste everything else. Folks in the big cities have pretty much used-up their water supply and now, they want our water here in the rural areas. They have to have water to fill their swimming pools and hot-tubs, wash their BMW every other day, let the water from their yard sprinklers run down the gutters and want those of us in the rural areas to pick-up their slack! We're still, trying to get out of a 13+ yr. drought! They get mad when their city councilfolks tell them they need to cut-back on their water useage!


Chuck

[wayneflorida 0]

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At least the Compact Fluorescent Light (CFL) Bulb is safe.

http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup-detailed.html

I try to get a little mercury everyday.

[shropshire 0]

Water....... Jeeze.. we're surrounded by the suff... it falls on our heads just about every day and STILL we have hose-pipe bans must summers

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[billvon 3,120]

>Folks in the big cities have pretty much used-up their water supply and now . .

Yep. And it's not just the folks in the city. Fly over rural Texas, Nevada or Arizona and look at all the ski ponds and golf courses. Heck, we grow food in El Centro, which is one of the driest places in the US. We've gotten used to cheap water.

[masterrig 1]

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Water....... Jeeze.. we're surrounded by the suff... it falls on our heads just about every day and STILL we have hose-pipe bans must summers

Wow!


Chuck

[Amazon 7]

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Being hypocritical is easy for you




….isn’t it

Truth hurts huh???

MMMMMM TRICKLE from the COAL BROTHERS.... MMMMMMM

Lets see

You dont have your great big boat anymore (ALL 3 are parked in my driveway to the side of my garage... my sailboat is getting ready to go back in the water... you know.. that whole WIND IS FREE thang)

oh, wait

Well you are all solar and wind and have disconected from the grid correct ( I use VERY little from the grid.. but thanks for playing. I do use a wood stove to heat the whole house... far more efficient since I got a brand new one that uses about 1/4 of what I used to)

correct?

You live in town so you can use public transportation too ( wrong guess again.. I live 10 miles from work and drive a TDI Diesel that gets 50+ MPG and I get OVER 600 miles to a tank of fuel and I work from home 2 or 3 days a week)

wait
or do you still live on a acerage where you need to drive a 4 wheel drive to work? ( see above)

Hmm

from hypocrisy to trickel?

And I have not jumped since Sep 2008 after a severe shoulder injury due to some exceedingly shit flying on someones part.

Want to bet my "footprint" is but a VERY small percentage of yours... since I work in computer networking... and not in the industry that spews garbage into the air water and landfills by the millions of tons a day

Edit to add

And the NEW house I am building and will be completed next year WILL have solar as well as wind generation as well as diesel genset backup . It is smaller.. it is more efficient... it has its own watersource is pretty much EQ proof and is purpose built to keep crazies at bay should that need arise for whatever reason.

[masterrig 1]

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>Folks in the big cities have pretty much used-up their water supply and now . .

Yep. And it's not just the folks in the city. Fly over rural Texas, Nevada or Arizona and look at all the ski ponds and golf courses. Heck, we grow food in El Centro, which is one of the driest places in the US. We've gotten used to cheap water.

Yup! Here in far-west Texas, we don't have 'ski-ponds' or swimming pools. We do have stock tanks so cattle and horses can get a drink now and then. I've been to Calexico and El Centro and they've done a pretty good job. I'm referring to the swimming pools that abound in Houston, Dallas, Amarillo and elsewhere and just how often are those pools used?
East of here, they want to build a coal fired energy plant. There's a pretty well-known rancher who wants to sell water for that plant because he claims he has an 'abundance' of the stuff. His water sypply comes from sources in the area where I live. Also, the town near his ranch will dry-up. In the spring and summer, when he irragates his alfalfa, that towwn's water pressure drops to 0! Those stock tanks I mentioned are drying up. We haven't had a drop of moisture in over 6-months. I guess, the point I'm trying to make is... we are wasteful and take too much for granted.


Chuck

[billvon 3,120]

>I guess, the point I'm trying to make is... we are wasteful and take too much
>for granted.

I definitely agree with you there. We have to be better stewards of resources like water, clean air and land. Today we're starting to see massive problems with getting enough water to people, and I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

(Careful, though - we're at risk of being labeled "capitalism destroying nuts" if we keep this up!)

[masterrig 1]

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>I guess, the point I'm trying to make is... we are wasteful and take too much
>for granted.

I definitely agree with you there. We have to be better stewards of resources like water, clean air and land. Today we're starting to see massive problems with getting enough water to people, and I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

(Careful, though - we're at risk of being labeled "capitalism destroying nuts" if we keep this up!)

I'm not against 'capitalism' per se. As long as they consider all sides and long term effects. Then too, we are not really known for long-term. We're more into 'get rich quick' and not considering the long-term
Also, our population is growing at a rapid rate and we're feeling the strain.


Chuck

[david3 0]

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>I guess, the point I'm trying to make is... we are wasteful and take too much
>for granted.

I definitely agree with you there. We have to be better stewards of resources like water, clean air and land. Today we're starting to see massive problems with getting enough water to people, and I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

(Careful, though - we're at risk of being labeled "capitalism destroying nuts" if we keep this up!)

I'm not against 'capitalism' per se. As long as they consider all sides and long term effects. Then too, we are not really known for long-term. We're more into 'get rich quick' and not considering the long-term
Also, our population is growing at a rapid rate and we're feeling the strain.


Chuck

Some believe the population isn't a problem.

http://overpopulationisamyth.com/overpopulation-the-making-of-a-myth

[rushmc 23]

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Being hypocritical is easy for you




….isn’t it

Truth hurts huh???

MMMMMM TRICKLE from the COAL BROTHERS.... MMMMMMM

Lets see

You dont have your great big boat anymore (ALL 3 are parked in my driveway to the side of my garage... my sailboat is getting ready to go back in the water... you know.. that whole WIND IS FREE thang)

oh, wait

Well you are all solar and wind and have disconected from the grid correct ( I use VERY little from the grid.. but thanks for playing. I do use a wood stove to heat the whole house... far more efficient since I got a brand new one that uses about 1/4 of what I used to)

correct?

You live in town so you can use public transportation too ( wrong guess again.. I live 10 miles from work and drive a TDI Diesel that gets 50+ MPG and I get OVER 600 miles to a tank of fuel and I work from home 2 or 3 days a week)

wait
or do you still live on a acerage where you need to drive a 4 wheel drive to work? ( see above)

Hmm

from hypocrisy to trickel?

And I have not jumped since Sep 2008 after a severe shoulder injury due to some exceedingly shit flying on someones part.

Want to bet my "footprint" is but a VERY small percentage of yours... since I work in computer networking... and not in the industry that spews garbage into the air water and landfills by the millions of tons a day

Edit to add

And the NEW house I am building and will be completed next year WILL have solar as well as wind generation as well as diesel genset backup . It is smaller.. it is more efficient... it has its own watersource is pretty much EQ proof and is purpose built to keep crazies at bay should that need arise for whatever reason.

Well good for you

and you like bill are mistaken in my work

I delivey the engergy via the grid I help build and maintain
That energy comes from coal, nukes and wind here but dont really matter to me

As for you foot print?
Again, good for you

That is your choice
Problem is you want to make your choices everyone elses too

So much for freedoms you spew your shit about frequently huh

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln