All You French Haters

[mpohl 1]

So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.
And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

Any more talk about "surrender monkeys" on this forum? If so, speak up now.


P.S. John Rich. enRICH me w/ your unique insight!

[AggieDave 6]

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So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.

If the US would have been overtly acting, then you would have cried out that the US should stay out of it.

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And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

And that's why French athletes win all the CP competitions...oh, wait, it's a Canadian on the PDFT. Eh? Whats that aboot?

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[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Whats that aboot?

Too much poutine.

To translate, that's "Freedom Fries" mixed with cheese curds and gravy.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[James.UWE 0]

I think you'll find that the phrase is 'cheese eating surrender monkeys'

[mpohl 1]

At least they know cheese.
Not like WI Cheddar sharp, medium as the only choices in an adult life.

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I think you'll find that the phrase is 'cheese eating surrender monkeys'

[rushmc 23]

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So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.
And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

Any more talk about "surrender monkeys" on this forum? If so, speak up now.


P.S. John Rich. enRICH me w/ your unique insight!

French riggers caused the the Cypres cutter location change to Mirage rigs (unless the French team used non french riggers)

Asshats

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[mpohl 1]

Obv they got an irrefutable point...

At least MiargeSys thinks so!

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So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.
And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

Any more talk about "surrender monkeys" on this forum? If so, speak up now.


P.S. John Rich. enRICH me w/ your unique insight!

French riggers caused the the Cypres change to Mirage rigs

Asshats

[captain1976 0]

I don't hate the French. For those that do, I understand they are simply ignorant and jealous, common for those who are intellectual challenged and know nothing about France.

The US Government is partially to blame for any unwarranted criticism. France has a more efficient form of government where their people enjoy a higher standard of living.

You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

[jgoose71 0]

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So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.
And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

Any more talk about "surrender monkeys" on this forum? If so, speak up now.


P.S. John Rich. enRICH me w/ your unique insight!

At First I was like "holy shit, they are doing something!!!!"

Then I read that the U.S. had to take out all the SAM sites and confirm their destruction before the French went in. Epic Fail.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[ryoder 1,590]

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Then I read that the U.S. had to take out all the SAM sites and confirm their destruction before the French went in. Epic Fail.

I was wondering about that when I heard the French went in.
I couldn't believe they were going in with the SAM sites still there.
I just now found the story:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2011/0319/US-leads-Odyssey-Dawn-initial-attack-on-Libya

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[nanook 1]

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So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.
And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

Any more talk about "surrender monkeys" on this forum? If so, speak up now.


P.S. John Rich. enRICH me w/ your unique insight!

At First I was like "holy shit, they are doing something!!!!"

Then I read that the U.S. had to take out all the SAM sites and confirm their destruction before the French went in. Epic Fail.

How is this a fail? We wouldn't send our own aircraft over any hostile country without doing the same thing.

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[Kennedy 0]

Yep, how brave of them, flying through after the US took out most of the threats.

Let me google that for you.

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As the situation in Libya escalated toward international war, the Obama administration was careful to portray US involvement as “supportive” with other countries in the lead. But on day one of the multinational conflict, it was the United States that provided most of the firepower and command direction for "Operation Odyssey Dawn."

What's that joke about red coats versus brown pants? What a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys.

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[Kennedy 0]

I can't speak for goose, but I got the impression he was classifying mpohl's assertion that France was doing all the work while the US sat idly by as a Fail, bot France's efforts as a whole.

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[nanook 1]

The French are definitely taking a hell of a lot more risk doing what they are doing right now. We shot Tomahawks; they are actually flying low-level operations against forces on the ground and in the sky. They are taking more life-threatening missions than we are.

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[ryoder 1,590]

The French heard a rumor that Gaddifi was serving French red wine at 35F, and that just sent them over the edge, so they volunteered to be the first to launch ground attacks.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[jgoose71 0]

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So we know that Sarkozy and the French forces actually took the initiative in dealing w/ Qaddafi/ Libya.
And in skydiving (and many other "extreme sports"), French participants have always pushed the envelope. Much more so than US-Americans.

Any more talk about "surrender monkeys" on this forum? If so, speak up now.


P.S. John Rich. enRICH me w/ your unique insight!

At First I was like "holy shit, they are doing something!!!!"

Then I read that the U.S. had to take out all the SAM sites and confirm their destruction before the French went in. Epic Fail.

How is this a fail? We wouldn't send our own aircraft over any hostile country without doing the same thing.

It's a fail because it's like the police waiting for someone else to disarm a criminal before they make an arrest. If you're going to act all big and bad, it kind of helps if you can walk the walk too.... Just sayin'

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[nanook 1]

Naah. It's more like someone else taking out the criminal's pre-positioned buddies with sniper rifles so police can get inside the and to an actual arrest.

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[kallend 2,184]

Sounds like joint operation to me. Kudos to all involved.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Kennedy 0]

Is that what you said eight years ago?

March 19, 2011
OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'...

MARCH 19, 2003
BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'...

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[kallend 2,184]

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Is that what you said eight years ago?

March 19, 2011
OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'...

MARCH 19, 2003
BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'...

The big difference is that THIS operation is NOT based on outright lies.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[nanook 1]

Uh, oh. They may attack the U. S. next. Look what happened to some of my bottles during a move. . .

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[kallend 2,184]

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Then I read that the U.S. had to take out all the SAM sites and confirm their destruction before the French went in. Epic Fail.

I was wondering about that when I heard the French went in.
I couldn't believe they were going in with the SAM sites still there.
I just now found the story:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2011/0319/US-leads-Odyssey-Dawn-initial-attack-on-Libya

According to Reuters:

French planes fired the first shots, destroying tanks and armored vehicles in eastern Libya eight years to the day after U.S.-led forces headed across the Iraqi border in 2003. Hours later, U.S. and British ships and submarines launched more than 110 cruise missiles against air defenses in the oil-producing North African country.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

They went in there with the SAMs intact!

They must have a lot of faith in ECM.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[masterblaster72 0]

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Uh, oh. They may attack the U. S. next. Look what happened to some of my bottles during a move. . .

Is that a Rothschild? Helluva wine that one.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[Kennedy 0]

Sources keep changing the chronology. Now it looks like France fired first, but only after delaying everyone else.

From the NYTimes.

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That news [of French air strikes] came even before the Paris summit meeting adjourned, with President Nicolas Sarkozy announcing that French warplanes had begun reconnaissance missions around Benghazi, and the French military saying that a Rafale jet fighter had destroyed a government tank near there.
Even though the leaders at the Paris summit meeting were united in supporting military action, there were signs of disagreement over how it would proceed.
Two senior Western diplomats said the Paris meeting, which was organized by Mr Sarkozy, may actually have delayed allied operations to stop Colonel Gaddafi's troops as they were approaching Benghazi. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment on the matter.
The initial French air sorties, which were not coordinated with other countries, angered some of the countries gathered at the summit meeting, according to a senior Nato-country diplomat. Information about the movement of Gaddafi troops toward Benghazi had been clear on Friday, but France blocked any Nato agreement on airstrikes until the Paris meeting, the diplomat said, suggesting that overflights could have begun Friday night before Mr Gaddafi's troops reached the city.

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