HandsomeSalad 0 #26 March 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhich is a bigger threat: Muslim Extremists or a foreign policy which kills hundreds of thousands of people and creates the conditions for Islamic radicalisation. Which is bigger: Life or death? deal with it... That doesn't make sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #27 March 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Which is a bigger threat: Muslim Extremists or a foreign policy which kills hundreds of thousands of people and creates the conditions for Islamic radicalisation. Which is bigger: Life or death? deal with it... That doesn't make sense. sure it does...think. Haven't you taken philosphy? duh...*edit* There was a poster here that recently posted about philosphy class....I was envious, I miss it. Great class...complete freedom, ya know?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #28 March 13, 2011 But since you want a real answer...I don't think extremism relies on foreign nor domestic policy. Those who hate, will hate. If I Kill westboro, am I still not a terrorist?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #29 March 13, 2011 Quote But since you want a real answer...I don't think extremism relies on foreign nor domestic policy. Those who hate, will hate. If I Kill westboro, am I still not a terrorist? Is that the sound of one hand clapping?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #30 March 13, 2011 Funny story-Several years ago my roomie (also coworker) and Iwere heading home from work and there were 6-8 Klan dudes handing out literature at the intersection at the end of our street. Jimmy rolled down the window and took it-I was a bit ticked off that he did at the time. We got home, he broke out a red pen-we corrected it for spelling and grammar (and there were a lot of corrections). We took it back to them, handed it over and Jim told them "As concerned white people, we want you to quit making us look stupid"You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #31 March 13, 2011 Quote Funny story-Several years ago my roomie (also coworker) and Iwere heading home from work and there were 6-8 Klan dudes handing out literature at the intersection at the end of our street. Jimmy rolled down the window and took it-I was a bit ticked off that he did at the time. We got home, he broke out a red pen-we corrected it for spelling and grammar (and there were a lot of corrections). We took it back to them, handed it over and Jim told them "As concerned white people, we want you to quit making us look stupid" Excellent! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,603 #32 March 13, 2011 Quoteat an estimated 3 to 5k, we haven't heard from them much lately...How many radical Muslim fundamentalists do you htink htere are in America? Not Muslims, but radical fundamentalists? We hear more about them, but I think that's a sign of the times. It's no longer OK to burn crosses and houses (well, most of the time). And within the US we'll get past this. How many people were killed by the KKK in the past? That doesn't make it OK for radical fundamentalist Muslims to kill Americans now. But in the long run, this will become a part of history. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #33 March 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I believe the KKK is basically a fictional organization LOL Well, they practically are... Fictional, really? might as well be...at an estimated 3 to 5k, we haven't heard from them much lately... guess them bitches are skerd... "might as well be fictional" != "fictional", unless you don't know what fictional means...Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #34 March 13, 2011 Quoteunless you don't know what fictional means... Do you know what practically means?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #35 March 13, 2011 I understand you had to work with the idiotic statement by a politician (he really deserves a spot in Wendy's thread), but a better poll/thread title might be: Which is a bigger threat: Muslim Extremists or White Supremacists? Unfortunately I have to deal with a few white supremacists at work on a twice or more per month basis. (they are our "clients" not my coworkers) Every one of them despises the KKK and criticizes them very strongly. These guys are bikers, aryan nations, or neo nazi types. Not much better in my mind than KKK, but they certainly believe they are. The KKK is a dead and rotting organization. Anywhere they show up, there are usually more people there to "counter protest" than there are for the Klan side, and most people jsut don't give a flying fuck. The KKK is a joke. Any informed person knows there are some dangerous White Supremacists out there, no mistake, but the KKK doesn't really fit anymore. If I had to pick one to worry about, the ones most likely to affect me are outlaw motorcycle gangs. If I thought I'd ever have to work at, visit, or reside in a prison, then Arayan Brotherhood or the Neo Nazi types would rank highest.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #36 March 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteunless you don't know what fictional means... Do you know what practically means? Yes, and 'practically fictional' is an oxymoron. It's like saying someone is 'practically pregnant'.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #37 March 14, 2011 For me, Muslim extremists inspire more fear because deep down I think we know they have a lot of valid reasons for being angry. I find it deeply ironic that the "solution" proposed to get rid of individual terrorists was to invade entire countries and kill many people in the process (including many innocent civilians)... Perhaps Muslim extremists are dangerous because they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should look more seriously into why they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should be more honest about how our nations contribute to their disempowerment and do something about *that*. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #38 March 14, 2011 Quote Quote Attorney General Eric Holder has said that radicalization of Americans is something that keeps him awake at night. As he noted, 126 people have been indicted on terrorist-related charges in the past two years, including 50 U.S. citizens. The great majority of those charged are violent jihadists. I think an affirmative action plan is necessary to make sure we indict equal numbers of people across all races and religions on terrorism charges. I demand a constant stream of self-assurance regarding whatever obscure choice I've made regarding what to lose sleep over. These equality programs always skip white people. For once that's a good thing. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #39 March 14, 2011 Quote For me, Muslim extremists inspire more fear because deep down I think we know they have a lot of valid reasons for being angry. I find it deeply ironic that the "solution" proposed to get rid of individual terrorists was to invade entire countries and kill many people in the process (including many innocent civilians)... Perhaps Muslim extremists are dangerous because they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should look more seriously into why they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should be more honest about how our nations contribute to their disempowerment and do something about *that*. "They" are angry because of their religious beliefs and the leaders that corrupt and use them to manipulate their followers. There's a simple system for detecting how potentially dangerous a group is. The more unprovable things they base their cause on (such as religion) the more dangerous they can be.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #40 March 14, 2011 Quote Quote For me, Muslim extremists inspire more fear because deep down I think we know they have a lot of valid reasons for being angry. I find it deeply ironic that the "solution" proposed to get rid of individual terrorists was to invade entire countries and kill many people in the process (including many innocent civilians)... Perhaps Muslim extremists are dangerous because they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should look more seriously into why they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should be more honest about how our nations contribute to their disempowerment and do something about *that*. "They" are angry because of their religious beliefs and the leaders that corrupt and use them to manipulate their followers. There's a simple system for detecting how potentially dangerous a group is. The more unprovable things they base their cause on (such as religion) the more dangerous they can be. So the Flying Spagetti Monster groups shuld be on a watch list then.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #41 March 14, 2011 Quote Quote For me, Muslim extremists inspire more fear because deep down I think we know they have a lot of valid reasons for being angry. I find it deeply ironic that the "solution" proposed to get rid of individual terrorists was to invade entire countries and kill many people in the process (including many innocent civilians)... Perhaps Muslim extremists are dangerous because they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should look more seriously into why they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should be more honest about how our nations contribute to their disempowerment and do something about *that*. "They" are angry because of their religious beliefs and the leaders that corrupt and use them to manipulate their followers. There's a simple system for detecting how potentially dangerous a group is. The more unprovable things they base their cause on (such as religion) the more dangerous they can be. I do not think it's right (or accurate) to point the finger exclusively in their direction. I do not think their anger is enflamed *only* by crazy religious fanaticism. I think it's hypocritical and false to assume that our countries do not contribute to the problem."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #42 March 14, 2011 Quote Quote Quote For me, Muslim extremists inspire more fear because deep down I think we know they have a lot of valid reasons for being angry. I find it deeply ironic that the "solution" proposed to get rid of individual terrorists was to invade entire countries and kill many people in the process (including many innocent civilians)... Perhaps Muslim extremists are dangerous because they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should look more seriously into why they have nothing to lose. Perhaps we should be more honest about how our nations contribute to their disempowerment and do something about *that*. "They" are angry because of their religious beliefs and the leaders that corrupt and use them to manipulate their followers. There's a simple system for detecting how potentially dangerous a group is. The more unprovable things they base their cause on (such as religion) the more dangerous they can be. I do not think it's right (or accurate) to point the finger exclusively in their direction. I do not think their anger is enflamed *only* by crazy religious fanaticism. I think it's hypocritical and false to assume that our countries do not contribute to the problem. I didn't say our countries don't contribute to the problem, but when they're dealing with irrational people there's only so much blame they can take. Granted, we don't always use rational people to negotiate ourselves. Much harder to convince someone to be rational when the person saying so basically believes a similar setup, perhaps just with different characters and plot.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #43 March 14, 2011 QuoteI do not think it's right (or accurate) to point the finger exclusively in their direction. I do not think their anger is enflamed *only* by crazy religious fanaticism. I think it's hypocritical and false to assume that our countries do not contribute to the problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH3GO-XWGws Post-video Notes: Iraq had nothing to do with Afghanistan and 9/11. And we wouldn't be dealing with Iran, as we are, if Saddam were still in power... evil man, great buffer. It is not our job to remove Saddam. Hilary Clinton was equally supportive of attacking Iraq. Oh Allah, give me the strength to hasten the return of the promised one... Ahmadinejad. Fun Fun! We are the great Satan and Israel is little Satan. P.S. Giuliani is a Fuck Tard. spelling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #44 March 14, 2011 Good Lord, Bill! Tell us how you really feel! http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-islam-keith-ellison/ Bill Maher To Muslim Rep. Keith Ellison: The Qur’an Is A ‘Hate Filled Holy Book’ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #45 March 14, 2011 Escape from Hamas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-dKwod3VM Backs up what Bill says about the Quran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #46 March 14, 2011 QuoteEscape from Hamas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-dKwod3VM Backs up what Bill says about the Quran. Murderous rocket attacks? Haha, yeah ok, sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #47 March 14, 2011 Did you get that from the first 30 seconds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #48 March 14, 2011 QuoteDid you get that from the first 30 seconds? Yes, even though I knew better than to watch even that much. Regardless - While Hamas have some exceptionally shitty Islamic beliefs I suspect the key reason they are annoyed is the constant destruction of Palestinian society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #49 March 14, 2011 Typical American Idiot comment... Would you like a non-"FAUX" video? Canada... Ex-Muslim: "Islam is a Lie" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odTyzaKYYd8&feature=related How about you judge a man by the content of his character, and discuss his words... not a hosts pointless intro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #50 March 14, 2011 QuoteEscape from Hamas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-dKwod3VM Backs up what Bill says about the Quran. His anti-Islamic rhetoric is extreme and incendiary... How can you trust what a man says about Islam when he spent a lifetime promoting extreme hatred of Israel by (almost) any means? Now his goal is to destroy Islam... It looks to me like he moved from one extreme position to another. Are there inconsistencies in the Quran? Are there inconsistencies in the Bible? If people twist and misuse the preachings/values of a religion, I don't think it's logical to claim that the religion is the problem... If someone uses a passage out of context or deliberately changes the meaning of what it actually says, the fault lies with the person and not the text. I'm not saying Islam is a good or a bad religion, but that his arguments against the religion are not logical. Especially if he himself is saying whatever is necessary to destroy Islam (even if it's misleading, out of context, or just plain false), which seems highly likely."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
