DanG 1 #26 March 10, 2011 QuoteThis propaganda is how they get away with it. Smokers do not put an undue burden on scociety. A lot of people run up huge medical bills before they die, not just smokers, and many smokers die of something else before they ever cost a cent. It's a wash. Now add in the fact that most smokers die sooner than non smokers and think of the money saved from that in SSI payments, etc. If the govt. was smart, it would give them away free. Any evidence of any of that? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #27 March 10, 2011 Personal observation. Which part do you disagree with?But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #28 March 10, 2011 Quote I don't have a problem with advertising or selling fags - it's inconsiderate smokers that get on my tits. Someday the US and the UK need to come to an agreement on what that word means."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 March 10, 2011 QuoteI don't have a problem with advertising or selling fags - it's inconsiderate smokers that get on my tits. that's a great position. Most things should be about the individuals, not big undefined groups. but every single one them tells you 'they' are the exception about it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #30 March 10, 2011 You made sweeping claims about smokers' financial impact on society, or lack thereof. I don't necessarily disagree, I just wanted to know if they were true or not. Do your personal observations include national/international economic impact studies? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #31 March 10, 2011 Quote Quote I don't have a problem with advertising or selling fags - it's inconsiderate smokers that get on my tits. Someday the US and the UK need to come to an agreement on what that word means. Tis the reason I used it2 countries separated by a common language-sense (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #32 March 10, 2011 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #33 March 10, 2011 Quote Quote I don't have a problem with advertising or selling fags - it's inconsiderate smokers that get on my tits. Someday the US and the UK need to come to an agreement on what that word means. That and the fact that you lot don't have a clue what a Fanny is.... no wonder your country is up Shit Creek (literally, in this case). (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #34 March 10, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I don't have a problem with advertising or selling fags - it's inconsiderate smokers that get on my tits. Someday the US and the UK need to come to an agreement on what that word means. That and the fact that you lot don't have a clue what a Fanny is.... no wonder your country is up Shit Creek (literally, in this case). But we Merkuns invented this thing called "Google" that enables us to translate what those Limeys say to us."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #35 March 10, 2011 I've seen studies about a lot of things. It seems that those with an agenda can always find (fund?) a study to support them. In fact, the tobacco industry did do a study that came to the same conclusions I stated, but when they realized the implications of touting the benefits of their customers dying off, they didn't release it. Anyway, from what I've seen, it doesen't cost any more to die from lung cancer than many other diseases.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #36 March 10, 2011 QuoteI've seen studies about a lot of things. It seems that those with an agenda can always find (fund?) a study to support them. In fact, the tobacco industry did do a study that came to the same conclusions I stated, but when they realized the implications of touting the benefits of their customers dying off, they didn't release it. Anyway, from what I've seen, it doesen't cost any more to die from lung cancer than many other diseases. Just look at global warming studies and your point is clarified and proven. Anti smoking campains will massage the numbers just as much as the Big Tobacco groups will.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #37 March 11, 2011 It was less tongue in cheek than you think, but then my views are pretty Machiavellian.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
