dmcoco84 5 #1 March 2, 2011 The vitriol from protesting Wisconsin workers towards the Kochs emerged quickly and intensely. Signs ranging between lame and vulgar (often both) dot the public-union marches. But what the protesters don’t realize is that they actually have a reason to root for the Koch brothers. According to the State of Wisconsin Investment Board (SWIB), the Wisconsin Retirement System owns $5.5 million in Georgia Pacific corporate bonds. (Georgia Pacific is owned by Koch Industries.) This is the retirement system in which the overwhelming majority of state and local employees participate. These are the pension benefits that public employees are trying so hard to protect. So here’s the challenge: Explain to a Wisconsin state worker that they are the ones helping fund the Koch brothers. Then sit back and watch the fun. Granted, $5.5 million out of a $18.5 billion fixed-income bond fund isn’t a whole lot. (The state also holds about $5 million worth of Colgate bonds, meaning it is in the pocket of Big Toothpaste.) But one imagines the public unions’ vitriol will soften a little bit when they realize their retirement payout is incumbent on the success of the Kochs. They’re all part of the same money-making ecosystem, despite many state employees believing all their retirement funds are invested exclusively in dreams and rainbows. So in the end, public unions should recognize that the real Koch will do them a lot more good than the fake one ever did. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260979/wisconsin-state-employees-should-have-some-koch-and-smile-christian-schneider Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #2 March 2, 2011 So has the govenor decided to hire you and other right wiong union haters as the radio guy posing as David Kock suggested?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmcoco84 5 #3 March 2, 2011 This is a whole thread, just for you Amazon. Please, explain the Koch theory. Cause I don't see what you are trying to show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 236 #4 March 2, 2011 QuoteSo has the govenor decided to hire you and other right wiong union haters as the radio guy posing as David Kock suggested?? You are calling ANYONE a "hater?!!" Irony score = 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #5 March 2, 2011 Is the strike illegal? Should teachers claiming to be sick and going to protests be fired? If the teachers were fired, do you think they don't have enough applications on hand to fill those jobs tomorrow? Do you realize that the governor isn't taking away collective bargaining, that he is trying to move "defined benefits" packages over to "defined contributions" just like everyone other than government already has? Defined benefit is a guaranteed way to bankruptcy. It has the same fundamental flaw as our current social securty system.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #6 March 2, 2011 I guess you missed THIS then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #7 March 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo has the govenor decided to hire you and other right wiong union haters as the radio guy posing as David Kock suggested?? You are calling ANYONE a "hater?!!" Irony score = 10 WOW... I guess the UNION haters are coming out in force... oh well I guess this thread gives all the little boys a little stiffie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmcoco84 5 #8 March 3, 2011 QuoteI guess you missed THIS then Fixed... Happy? Now, whats the deal with Koch. I'm serious. I would really like you to make your case. I don't see what you are talking about. Follow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #9 March 3, 2011 I know its so difficult for you.... Try and look for yourself, you style yourself as a know it all.. go find out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #10 March 3, 2011 QuoteFollow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? It doesn't exist - that was proven out in the other thread.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #11 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteFollow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? It doesn't exist - that was proven out in the other thread. Perhaps if you ever decide to rub just a few brain cells together you MIGHT be able to find the information .. not that they have that on FAUX NEWS. Then again.. you do not like those discouraging words down there on your home on the strange... so will NEVER look for anything outside your very very narrow worldview. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmcoco84 5 #12 March 3, 2011 Cop out. If you've already fully explained it, then copy and past. Lets fully debate it here... Or do lack the courage of your convictions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #13 March 3, 2011 QuoteCop out. If you've already fully explained it, then copy and past. Lets fully debate it here... Or do lack the courage of your convictions? Nope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #14 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteFollow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? It doesn't exist - that was proven out in the other thread. Perhaps if you ever decide to rub just a few brain cells together you MIGHT be able to find the information .. not that they have that on FAUX NEWS. Didn't look for it on Fox - yet ANOTHER attempted insult, failed. Unfortunately for you, the FEC records show your claim as the bullshit that it is. QuoteThen again.. you do not like those discouraging words down there on your home on the strange... so will NEVER look for anything outside your very very narrow worldview. Funny you should say that, given your LONG track record of ignoring anything that's not on DKos or Dem Underground or Huff'n'Puff post.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #15 March 3, 2011 QuoteNope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Why try to get out now? Makes a great excuse for not having to back up the claims, though, I'll give you that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #16 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteNope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Why try to get out now? Makes a great excuse for not having to back up the claims, though, I'll give you that. Perhaps it would be better if people didn't get so worked up as to bang their heads on stuff. I couldn't help but be reminded of this clip I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #17 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteNope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Why try to get out now? Makes a great excuse for not having to back up the claims, though, I'll give you that. You go ahead Mike.. it seems to work so well for you and your ilk Oh and by the way... YOU are the one who seem to have that whole HATE thing going on for those sites...seems you have those websites on your brain constantly... me.... sorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Another FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #18 March 3, 2011 Quotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne. OMG... I USED A LINK TO PISS OFF MIKEEE..... Get over it Petunia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #20 March 3, 2011 As more comes out, it's not about money, it's about power. More specifically, it's about the unions keeping power. It's not about the children (this bill would allow the schools to reform the teacher tenure thing), it's not about balancing a budget, it's not about saving jobs (the governor will have to fire 1,500 people if this doesn't pass) It's about union thugs keeping political power. Federal employees don't have collective bargaining and they are doing just fine. The other thing that happens if this bill passes is unions won't be able to mandate dues to go to Democratic candidates. Democrats and unions will have to raise funds the old fashioned way, which is the same way republicans do."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #21 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne. OMG... I USED A LINK TO PISS OFF MIKEEE..... Get over it Petunia Nothing to get over, cupcake - I already knew your 'veracity problem'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #22 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne. OMG... I USED A LINK TO PISS OFF MIKEEE..... Get over it Petunia Nothing to get over, cupcake - I already knew your 'veracity problem'. As much as you love those sites.. you must be on there day and night.... Oh and I would hate to mention getting that "conservative" spin from Jeff on the news that you love from Talon News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #23 March 3, 2011 QuoteAs much as you love those sites.. you must be on there day and night.... Oh and I would hate to mention getting that "conservative" spin from Jeff on the news that you love from Talon News Never heard of Talon news... knowing you, I'm sure it's yet another attempted insult that fits you more than me, as that's all you can seem to post. It's ok, Jeanne... just admit you got caught in the lie and move on.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #24 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteAs much as you love those sites.. you must be on there day and night.... Oh and I would hate to mention getting that "conservative" spin from Jeff on the news that you love from Talon News Never heard of Talon news... knowing you, I'm sure it's yet another attempted insult that fits you more than me, as that's all you can seem to post. It's ok, Jeanne... just admit you got caught in the lie and move on. Its ok Mike.. I know you would NEVER believe anything I might say... It just not in your abilities. You really should look up Talon News... its right up.... YOUR alley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #25 March 3, 2011 QuoteIts ok Mike.. I know you would NEVER believe anything I might say... It just not in your abilities. Given the number of times you've lied about my views and motivations, why should I? It's easy to correct - just start telling the truth. Be able to back up your claims. That means providing the data on the Koch brothers that you claim to have. Shadows and conspiracy bullcrap is rhys' game - you can do better than that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Amazon 7 #2 March 2, 2011 So has the govenor decided to hire you and other right wiong union haters as the radio guy posing as David Kock suggested?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #3 March 2, 2011 This is a whole thread, just for you Amazon. Please, explain the Koch theory. Cause I don't see what you are trying to show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #4 March 2, 2011 QuoteSo has the govenor decided to hire you and other right wiong union haters as the radio guy posing as David Kock suggested?? You are calling ANYONE a "hater?!!" Irony score = 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 March 2, 2011 Is the strike illegal? Should teachers claiming to be sick and going to protests be fired? If the teachers were fired, do you think they don't have enough applications on hand to fill those jobs tomorrow? Do you realize that the governor isn't taking away collective bargaining, that he is trying to move "defined benefits" packages over to "defined contributions" just like everyone other than government already has? Defined benefit is a guaranteed way to bankruptcy. It has the same fundamental flaw as our current social securty system.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 March 2, 2011 I guess you missed THIS then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 March 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo has the govenor decided to hire you and other right wiong union haters as the radio guy posing as David Kock suggested?? You are calling ANYONE a "hater?!!" Irony score = 10 WOW... I guess the UNION haters are coming out in force... oh well I guess this thread gives all the little boys a little stiffie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #8 March 3, 2011 QuoteI guess you missed THIS then Fixed... Happy? Now, whats the deal with Koch. I'm serious. I would really like you to make your case. I don't see what you are talking about. Follow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 March 3, 2011 I know its so difficult for you.... Try and look for yourself, you style yourself as a know it all.. go find out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 March 3, 2011 QuoteFollow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? It doesn't exist - that was proven out in the other thread.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteFollow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? It doesn't exist - that was proven out in the other thread. Perhaps if you ever decide to rub just a few brain cells together you MIGHT be able to find the information .. not that they have that on FAUX NEWS. Then again.. you do not like those discouraging words down there on your home on the strange... so will NEVER look for anything outside your very very narrow worldview. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #12 March 3, 2011 Cop out. If you've already fully explained it, then copy and past. Lets fully debate it here... Or do lack the courage of your convictions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 March 3, 2011 QuoteCop out. If you've already fully explained it, then copy and past. Lets fully debate it here... Or do lack the courage of your convictions? Nope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteFollow the money doesn't say much. If its that simple... What money line are you talking about? It doesn't exist - that was proven out in the other thread. Perhaps if you ever decide to rub just a few brain cells together you MIGHT be able to find the information .. not that they have that on FAUX NEWS. Didn't look for it on Fox - yet ANOTHER attempted insult, failed. Unfortunately for you, the FEC records show your claim as the bullshit that it is. QuoteThen again.. you do not like those discouraging words down there on your home on the strange... so will NEVER look for anything outside your very very narrow worldview. Funny you should say that, given your LONG track record of ignoring anything that's not on DKos or Dem Underground or Huff'n'Puff post.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 March 3, 2011 QuoteNope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Why try to get out now? Makes a great excuse for not having to back up the claims, though, I'll give you that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteNope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Why try to get out now? Makes a great excuse for not having to back up the claims, though, I'll give you that. Perhaps it would be better if people didn't get so worked up as to bang their heads on stuff. I couldn't help but be reminded of this clip I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #17 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteNope.. I suffer from a lack of masochistic tendencies of beating my head against a wall of STUPID Why try to get out now? Makes a great excuse for not having to back up the claims, though, I'll give you that. You go ahead Mike.. it seems to work so well for you and your ilk Oh and by the way... YOU are the one who seem to have that whole HATE thing going on for those sites...seems you have those websites on your brain constantly... me.... sorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Another FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 March 3, 2011 Quotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne. OMG... I USED A LINK TO PISS OFF MIKEEE..... Get over it Petunia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #20 March 3, 2011 As more comes out, it's not about money, it's about power. More specifically, it's about the unions keeping power. It's not about the children (this bill would allow the schools to reform the teacher tenure thing), it's not about balancing a budget, it's not about saving jobs (the governor will have to fire 1,500 people if this doesn't pass) It's about union thugs keeping political power. Federal employees don't have collective bargaining and they are doing just fine. The other thing that happens if this bill passes is unions won't be able to mandate dues to go to Democratic candidates. Democrats and unions will have to raise funds the old fashioned way, which is the same way republicans do."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne. OMG... I USED A LINK TO PISS OFF MIKEEE..... Get over it Petunia Nothing to get over, cupcake - I already knew your 'veracity problem'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotesorry you will not find those on my IE History at all..since they are not my thing.. Really? Dem Underground DKos QuoteAnother FAIL from Mikee the all knowing Another lie from Jeanne. OMG... I USED A LINK TO PISS OFF MIKEEE..... Get over it Petunia Nothing to get over, cupcake - I already knew your 'veracity problem'. As much as you love those sites.. you must be on there day and night.... Oh and I would hate to mention getting that "conservative" spin from Jeff on the news that you love from Talon News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 March 3, 2011 QuoteAs much as you love those sites.. you must be on there day and night.... Oh and I would hate to mention getting that "conservative" spin from Jeff on the news that you love from Talon News Never heard of Talon news... knowing you, I'm sure it's yet another attempted insult that fits you more than me, as that's all you can seem to post. It's ok, Jeanne... just admit you got caught in the lie and move on.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 March 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteAs much as you love those sites.. you must be on there day and night.... Oh and I would hate to mention getting that "conservative" spin from Jeff on the news that you love from Talon News Never heard of Talon news... knowing you, I'm sure it's yet another attempted insult that fits you more than me, as that's all you can seem to post. It's ok, Jeanne... just admit you got caught in the lie and move on. Its ok Mike.. I know you would NEVER believe anything I might say... It just not in your abilities. You really should look up Talon News... its right up.... YOUR alley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 March 3, 2011 QuoteIts ok Mike.. I know you would NEVER believe anything I might say... It just not in your abilities. Given the number of times you've lied about my views and motivations, why should I? It's easy to correct - just start telling the truth. Be able to back up your claims. That means providing the data on the Koch brothers that you claim to have. Shadows and conspiracy bullcrap is rhys' game - you can do better than that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
